Rangers win a cup in this last window if they had inked panarin when he first came over?

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NernieBichols

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Been thinking this a lot, What happened? Why was panarin fixated on signing with the hawks? Rangers would have won a cup with this last generation of players had they had breadman on the team in 14-15.

Anyone have any dirt? Impression I got was that the hawks were one of the first to spot him and then ‘hawked’ him and showed him a lot of attention leading up to his decision to come over.

How we missed that one when we were trading away 1sts for the missing link and the guy who would have put us over the top was available for money only and were we not even in on or aware of him, or did we not think much of him.

Man talk about a miss
 
Despite what some people will tell you, every single free agent does not have their inner voice begging them to sign in NY. Chicago has scouts too. They found him. Shockingly, they did not call NY to see if they wanted to make an offer first. The audacity.
 
Despite what some people will tell you, every single free agent does not have their inner voice begging them to sign in NY. Chicago has scouts too. They found him. Shockingly, they did not call NY to see if they wanted to make an offer first. The audacity.

New York is getting so shitty, that many current residents of New York, let alone professional athletes [many of whom aren't even from this hemisphere] are looking to jump ship due to weird politics, high taxes, and overcrowding, yet the turn of the 20th century meme of "New York New York" has 21st century fans thinking a lot of these players give a rat's ass about "The World's Most Famous Arena™️" over anything else.

We would have won the cup in 2014 had he been on the roster because he would have been scoring and getting primary assists instead of driving the offense.
 
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Any additional secondary scoring would have helped. Didn’t necessarily need to be an elite player.
 
Despite what some people will tell you, every single free agent does not have their inner voice begging them to sign in NY. Chicago has scouts too. They found him. Shockingly, they did not call NY to see if they wanted to make an offer first. The audacity.
It’s more how did the rangers miss him? The rangers weren’t even know of the final teams. It was the hawks and the hawks. If he choose his blank check contract with the rangers I’m guessing he did in fact have an inner voice telling himself he wanted to sign with the rangers.

So your sarcasm is weirdly off-beat here
 
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Any additional secondary scoring would have helped. Didn’t necessarily need to be an elite player.
The point isn’t the rangers needed an elite scorer which they in fact very much were lacking. They had the best forward depth in the league. They absolutely needed difference makers.

And my question is how were the rangers sleeping on this kind of talent. If he wanted in now, he could have been recruited then, unless there’s a specific story of how the hawks hooked him.

Which would be interesting to hear some day
 
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It’s more how did the rangers miss him? The rangers weren’t even know of the final teams. It was the hawks and the hawks. If he choose his blank check contract with the rangers I’m guessing he did in fact have an inner voice telling himself he wanted to sign with the rangers.

So your sarcasm is weirdly off-beat here
Here's the thing though. You don't know the difference until you've seen it. Panarin was not a rich kid growing up from all accounts. I don't think he knew the difference. And as far as how did the Rangers miss him, do you really need to ask? Unless a player stickhandles past them at the hotel bar, this teams scouts pretty much miss them all. The undrafted free agents they have found haven't been too bad though. They should trade away all their picks and stick to them.
 
if we had him 2014-2015 yes, but he came over the following year.

even with him we probably had no chance.
 
if we had him 2014-2015 yes, but he came over the following year.

even with him we probably had no chance.
I still am adamant that the 14-15 team easily wins the Cup with a healthy McDonagh and Zucc. That team was an absolute machine on offense that season and prime Hank masked any deficiencies on defense.
 
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Here's the thing though. You don't know the difference until you've seen it. Panarin was not a rich kid growing up from all accounts. I don't think he knew the difference. And as far as how did the Rangers miss him, do you really need to ask? Unless a player stickhandles past them at the hotel bar, this teams scouts pretty much miss them all. The undrafted free agents they have found haven't been too bad though. They should trade away all their picks and stick to them.
That’s what I’m saying too, yeah at a really important time when we were giving out 1st rounders like they were dollar bills to get over the hump and win a cup, they missed the equalivant of a 1OA picked who in his rookie year was the X-factor for the hawks 3rd cup.

Either they were knew exactly who he was but the hawks had established a relationship which had secured the hawks as being his entry team a couple years before panarin actually came over or that was the real asleep at the wheel motion that cost the rangers a cup in 14-15. The same year panarin and the hawks beat the bolts who beat us bc we were injured yeah, but bc we couldn’t buy a goal in games 5 or game 7
 
The point isn’t the rangers needed an elite scorer which they in fact very much were lacking. They had the best forward depth in the league. They absolutely needed difference makers.

And my question is how were the rangers sleeping on this kind of talent. If he wanted in now, he could have been recruited then, unless there’s a specific story of how the hawks hooked him.

Which would be interesting to hear some day

Sure, but even just a healthy Zuccarello would've probably done the trick in 2015.
 
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Weren’t we in on him at the time? I thought he chose Chicago over other offers
I don’t think anyone else was seriously in on him bc the league knew he was signing with the hawks. I remember the spring beforehand reading one of the hockey guys weekly columns and it was the first time I had heard panarin’s name and I remember then there was something that the league knew he was earmarked for Chicago for awhile. Somebody had established a contact early on before panarin was ready or wanted to come over but that it sealed the deal early.

What I’m saying is if he were on the rangers radar and could have established that contact and landed him from the drop. We’d be sitting on another cup. Watching him, I have no douhbt of it.

And maybe it wouldn’t have been 14-15. Maybe it would have been that 1st year we had Mika and still had stepan and lost to Ottawa
 
Sure, but even just a healthy Zuccarello would've probably done the trick in 2015.
While I agree.
that’s not the point in making. It makes the point that much more obvious though. Which is panarin would have put them over the top one of those years and we’d be sitting on another cup
 
They definitely would have won if they had not blown two overtime games in LA, and then won 2 more games in the series. I'll tell you that for free.
 
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The thread title is bothering me for some reason.

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