Confirmed with Link: Rangers trade Rupp to Wild for Darroll Powe and Nick Palmieri

[Cliffy1814]

Hopefully Sather has finally come to conclusion that the enforcer role (if you even need one anymore in today's NHL) is better filled by a young, hungry AHL type (mashinter, Bickel) than a 30+ guy with a history of doing it.

Sather is now 0-3 in these type of signings (brashear, Boogard-RIP, and Rupp).

Rupp was a useful player in his day so I agree with those who wonder if he even fit the bill of an enforcer).

Anyway, looking for some help on mashinter. Just glancing at his stats he does not seem to be a guy who dropped the gloves very often. Only 100+ PIM once in his entire career including junior.
Are we assuming that he can drop them based on him being 6'4" or is he a legit heavyweight?

 

[thk25]

The Wild are a very small team. They have one of the best PK's in the league with Konopka, Parise, Koivu, Setogouchi, Mitchell and Clutterbuck and they play in a very physical division. They just got man-handled by the Blues due to their lack of size.

Powe was expendable to them.

This is pretty much sums it up.

I've been a huge Powe fan since his Philly days, and I think you guys will be happy with him if your expectations are manageable. He is never going to be a big scorer, at best he is a 15 points a season guy.

He will improve your penalty kill, and help with shorthanded chances. He was rumored to be one of the fastest skaters, if not the fastest skater, on the Flyers in 2009-2010. Don't put too much stock into his +/- last year, he was racking up tons of PK minutes on a pretty bad team.

Also, he can fight but he's not going to be a primary enforcer. That's why you have Asham. The most shocking stat I've seen regarding this trade is that so far Powe only has 1 hit this season, expect that number to jump up dramatically.

 

[SixGoalieSystem]

Sather is now 0-3 in these type of signings (brashear, Boogard-RIP, and Rupp).

John Scott also fits this profile even if strictly speaking he was still 29 at the time of the trade.

 

[Vitto79]

lets hope Sather stops the goon signings. Bickel is basically another sigiing in that mold and look how great he's doing. Atleast he's cheap and can play multiple postions so he's not completely useless on the team given the right situations.

McIlrath will be the new tough guy soon enough just give him time to develop

 

[NYR Viper]

Hopefully Sather has finally come to conclusion that the enforcer role (if you even need one anymore in today's NHL) is better filled by a young, hungry AHL type (mashinter, Bickel) than a 30+ guy with a history of doing it.

Sather is now 0-3 in these type of signings (brashear, Boogard-RIP, and Rupp).

Rupp was a useful player in his day so I agree with those who wonder if he even fit the bill of an enforcer).

Anyway, looking for some help on mashinter. Just glancing at his stats he does not seem to be a guy who dropped the gloves very often. Only 100+ PIM once in his entire career including junior.
Are we assuming that he can drop them based on him being 6'4" or is he a legit heavyweight?

If you check out his fight card he has some legit heavies on there including Parros and Reaves.

He won't be a super heavy ever, in SJ, there hopes were that he would become another Ryan Clowe type before last season where is development stunted for some reason. I think he can be a Rupp-like player. 10g, 10-15a, 100PIM's

 

[NYROrtsFan]

From the videos I've seen of Mashinter, I wouldn't call him a legit heavy... His balance just isn't good enough to handle the real big guys.

Bickel is a better fighter.

 

[slipknottin]

From the videos I've seen of Mashinter, I wouldn't call him a legit heavy... His balance just isn't good enough to handle the real big guys.

Bickel is a better fighter.

Eh masher is a capable fighter. Not a top fighter but could probably hold his own against mostly anyone. I wouldn't think him fighting a guy like Shawn Thornton would be an automatic loss. While Rupp fighting pretty much anyone was

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Sather is now 0-3 in these type of signings (brashear, Boogard-RIP, and Rupp)

Being the enforcer for the Rangers is like being the drummer for Spinal Tap.

 

[bhamill]

Mashinter is not a guy you have around to "scare" the other team like Boogaard or Scott, but he's a guy who can answer the bell and IMO he's a level above Rupp as a fighter, on a par with Scott Thornton. Fought Parros pretty even and beat on Ryan Reaves. That's what the Rangers need. Having a "deterrent" that can't take a regular shift is not much of a detterent. I think the NYR are better off with a team toughness concept, and by that I mean throwing and accepting hits and standing up when needed.

 

[broadwayblue]

Mashinter is not a guy you have around to "scare" the other team like Boogaard or Scott, but he's a guy who can answer the bell and IMO he's a level above Rupp as a fighter, on a par with Scott Thornton. Fought Parros pretty even and beat on Ryan Reaves. That's what the Rangers need. Having a "deterrent" that can't take a regular shift is not much of a detterent. I think the NYR are better off with a team toughness concept, and by that I mean throwing and accepting hits and standing up when needed.

Exactly. I'd rather beat up the other team during the game than take instigator penalties that leave us short-handed.

 

[RangerBoy]

From: @KatieStrangESPN
Sent: Feb 5, 2013 11:54a

#NYR Tortorella called Rupp a "great teammate" but said he struggled to find him ice time, worried about speed of the game

sent via Mobile Web (M2)
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/status/298836944492822528

 

[RangerBoy]

"Speed of the game". Rupp had a hard time keeping up. He didn't do much in the summer hoping the knee would heal. Four month lockout. It didn't really help him.

 

[16 To Stanley*]

We have Asham also who seems to actually be able to keep up and play decent. I know he's not a heavyweight but he can throw em and i'm pretty sure he's a little psychotic and doesn't fear anyone.

 

[slipknottin]

We have Asham also who seems to actually be able to keep up and play decent. I know he's not a heavyweight but he can throw em and i'm pretty sure he's a little psychotic and doesn't fear anyone.

I would like to see asham get a little more ice time. Not having Rupp on his line may help with that. Whoever is out there with him should provide significantly more speed

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

"Speed of the game". Rupp had a hard time keeping up. He didn't do much in the summer hoping the knee would heal. Four month lockout. It didn't really help him.

Strange. You would think the 4 mouth lockout would have benefitted him. A full summer (and more) to heal and time to build it back up.

 

[BBKers]

Sathers latest dealings...

Here are the stats behind the 3 recent trades we have made:

• Date January 16, 2013 NYR trade Tommy Grant to San Jose Sharks for Brandon Mashinter and a conditional 7th round pick (2014 draft)
• Date January 24, 2013 NYR trade Chad Kolarik to Pittsburgh Penguins for Benn Ferriero
• Date February 4, 2013 NYR trade Mike Rupp to Minnesota Wild for Darroll Powe + Nick Palmieri

ACQUISITIONS
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Nick Palmieri |RW |23 yo |6 ft 3 in | 230 lb| $577,500| RFA 2013| 87 | 13 |12 |25 |20 | 177| 55 |41 |96 | 149 |R3 #79 (2007) New Jersey
Brandon Mashinter | LW | 24 yo |6 ft 4 in |235 lb | $550.000 |UFA 2013| 13| 0| 0 | 0 | 17 | 244| 47| 58| 105 |338| undrafted
Benn Ferriero| C/RW| 25 yo |5 ft 11 in| 195 lb| $700,000| RFA 2013| 104 |15| 9 | 24| 31| 175 |53 |76 |129| 72 | R7 #197 (2006) Phoenix
Darroll Powe |LW/C |27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 212 lb |$1,066,667 |UFA 2014 | 326 |29 |32 |61| 204| 105| 16 |19| 35| 179 |undrafted
TOTAL |4 FWds| 24,75 yo| 6 ft 1 in |221 lb| $2,894,167 |($723,542 per)| 530| 57 |53| 110| 272| 701| 171| 194| 365| 738 |2 undrafted picks ++[/table]

DEPARTURES
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Tommy Grant |LW |26 yo | 6 ft 2 in |195 lb |$625,000| RFA 2013| 0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |119 |22| 27| 49 |68 | undrafted
Chad Kolarik|RW|27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 175 lb |$575.000 |UFA 2013 | 6| 0 |1 |1 |2 | 259 |92| 97 |189 |196| R7 #199 (2004) Phoenix
Mike Rupp |LW |33 yo | 6 ft 5 in| 243 lb| $1,500,000| UFA 2014| 628 |55| 47 |102| 836| 210| 33 |40 |73 |239| R1 #9 overall (1998) NY Islanders
TOTAL| 3 fwds| 29 yo |6 ft 2 in |204 lb| $2,700,000 |($900,000 per)| 634| 55| 48| 103| 838| 588| 147| 164| 311| 503| 1 undrafted pick++[/table]

+ we eventually give a conditional 7th round draft pick in 2014 in The Mashinter deal

Thoughts?

 

[Samuel Culper III]

Here are the stats behind the 3 recent trades we have made:

• Date January 16, 2013 NYR trade Tommy Grant to San Jose Sharks for Brandon Mashinter and a conditional 7th round pick (2014 draft)
• Date January 24, 2013 NYR trade Chad Kolarik to Pittsburgh Penguins for Benn Ferriero
• Date February 4, 2013 NYR trade Mike Rupp to Minnesota Wild for Darroll Powe + Nick Palmieri

ACQUISITIONS
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Nick Palmieri |RW |23 yo |6 ft 3 in | 230 lb| $577,500| RFA 2013| 87 | 13 |12 |25 |20 | 177| 55 |41 |96 | 149 |R3 #79 (2007) New Jersey
Brandon Mashinter | LW | 24 yo |6 ft 4 in |235 lb | $550.000 |UFA 2013| 13| 0| 0 | 0 | 17 | 244| 47| 58| 105 |338| undrafted
Benn Ferriero| C/RW| 25 yo |5 ft 11 in| 195 lb| $700,000| RFA 2013| 104 |15| 9 | 24| 31| 175 |53 |76 |129| 72 | R7 #197 (2006) Phoenix
Darroll Powe |LW/C |27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 212 lb |$1,066,667 |UFA 2013 | 326 |29 |32 |61| 204| 105| 16 |19| 35| 179 |undrafted
TOTAL |4 FWds| 24,75 yo| 6 ft 1 in |221 lb| $2,894,167 |($723,542 per)| 530| 57 |53| 110| 272| 701| 171| 194| 365| 738 |2 undrafted picks ++[/table]

DEPARTURES
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Tommy Grant |LW |26 yo | 6 ft 2 in |195 lb |$625,000| RFA 2013| 0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |119 |22| 27| 49 |68 | undrafted
Chad Kolarik|RW|27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 175 lb |$575.000 |UFA 2013 | 6| 0 |1 |1 |2 | 259 |92| 97 |189 |196| R7 #199 (2004) Phoenix
Mike Rupp |LW |33 yo | 6 ft 5 in| 243 lb| $1,500,000| UFA 2014| 628 |55| 47 |102| 836| 210| 33 |40 |73 |239| R1 #9 overall (1998) NY Islanders
TOTAL| 3 fwds| 29 yo |6 ft 2 in |204 lb| $2,700,000 |($900,000 per)| 634| 55| 48| 103| 838| 588| 147| 164| 311| 503| 1 undrafted pick++[/table]

+ we eventually give a conditional 7th round draft pick in 2014 in The Mashinter deal

Thoughts?

Leave it to Sather to trade a former #9 overall for a bunch of scraps and late round picks.

 

[gabevh3]

my first thought when i heard this news in my science class yesterday was "yes now we have a younger fighter than can take Rupp's place!"

and then i realized i was thinking of Riley Cote.

aaaaaaaanyway, i think this is a steal of a trade. awesome stuff. we now have added depth to the bottom six. i'm seeing that he's a great PKer and energy guy and awesome! i remember him from his Philly days and i didn't like him very much (mostly cuz he was a ********) but we could definitely use a guy like that on the roster. especially one that can skate.

again, stolen trade. how does Sather do it?

My thoughts exactly..are the wild getting a conditional pick/futures or something? Doesn't make sense for them..rupp Will be retired sooner rather than later.

 

[NYR Viper]

Here are the stats behind the 3 recent trades we have made:

• Date January 16, 2013 NYR trade Tommy Grant to San Jose Sharks for Brandon Mashinter and a conditional 7th round pick (2014 draft)
• Date January 24, 2013 NYR trade Chad Kolarik to Pittsburgh Penguins for Benn Ferriero
• Date February 4, 2013 NYR trade Mike Rupp to Minnesota Wild for Darroll Powe + Nick Palmieri

ACQUISITIONS
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Nick Palmieri |RW |23 yo |6 ft 3 in | 230 lb| $577,500| RFA 2013| 87 | 13 |12 |25 |20 | 177| 55 |41 |96 | 149 |R3 #79 (2007) New Jersey
Brandon Mashinter | LW | 24 yo |6 ft 4 in |235 lb | $550.000 |UFA 2013| 13| 0| 0 | 0 | 17 | 244| 47| 58| 105 |338| undrafted
Benn Ferriero| C/RW| 25 yo |5 ft 11 in| 195 lb| $700,000| RFA 2013| 104 |15| 9 | 24| 31| 175 |53 |76 |129| 72 | R7 #197 (2006) Phoenix
Darroll Powe |LW/C |27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 212 lb |$1,066,667 |UFA 2013 | 326 |29 |32 |61| 204| 105| 16 |19| 35| 179 |undrafted
TOTAL |4 FWds| 24,75 yo| 6 ft 1 in |221 lb| $2,894,167 |($723,542 per)| 530| 57 |53| 110| 272| 701| 171| 194| 365| 738 |2 undrafted picks ++[/table]

DEPARTURES
[table="head;width=4800]Name | Pos | Age | Height| Weight | Caphit |Contract |NHL GP| G |A |Pts| PIM |AHL GP |G |A| Pts| PIM |Drafted
Tommy Grant |LW |26 yo | 6 ft 2 in |195 lb |$625,000| RFA 2013| 0 |0 |0 |0 |0 |119 |22| 27| 49 |68 | undrafted
Chad Kolarik|RW|27 yo |5 ft 11 in| 175 lb |$575.000 |UFA 2013 | 6| 0 |1 |1 |2 | 259 |92| 97 |189 |196| R7 #199 (2004) Phoenix
Mike Rupp |LW |33 yo | 6 ft 5 in| 243 lb| $1,500,000| UFA 2014| 628 |55| 47 |102| 836| 210| 33 |40 |73 |239| R1 #9 overall (1998) NY Islanders
TOTAL| 3 fwds| 29 yo |6 ft 2 in |204 lb| $2,700,000 |($900,000 per)| 634| 55| 48| 103| 838| 588| 147| 164| 311| 503| 1 undrafted pick++[/table]

+ we eventually give a conditional 7th round draft pick in 2014 in The Mashinter deal

Thoughts?

I was not an advocate of the Kolarik deal but I love the other (2). Hopefully Sather can continue doing this.

 

[BBKers]

Leave it to Sather to trade a former #9 overall for a bunch of scraps and late round picks.

True dat...
We need high pix!!!

 

[Fletch]

at least Rupp did not spontaneously combust, Singn'!

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

at least Rupp did not spontaneously combust, Singn'!

I'm sorry, have we met?

 

[Ghost of jas]

at least Rupp did not spontaneously combust, Singn'!

I think I've just seen a ghost!

 

[Hunter Gathers]

at least Rupp did not spontaneously combust, Singn'!

n00b

 

[NYR Viper]

Jeez everyone is coming out of the woodwork. I have see Sting, Fletch, ODC, Dagoon. The parties here!