Confirmed with Link: Rangers Sign G Alexander Georgiev

[Osminator]

I think Hartford is re-signing Malcolm and we're going with Georgiev + Nell/Halverson for Hartford and Halverson/Nell + Malcolm for Greenville.

With a so-so Pavelec backing up in NY, no real 3rd NHL goalie in the system... not sure that is a great plan.

 

[nyr2k2]

With a so-so Pavelec backing up in NY, no real 3rd NHL goalie in the system... not sure that is a great plan.

Agreed. I've been saying for weeks that the Rangers would sign a legitimate veteran for Hartford, like they always do. Maybe they're taking a different approach though. Seems risky.

 

[Thirty One]

Glad it's finally official!

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

With a so-so Pavelec backing up in NY, no real 3rd NHL goalie in the system... not sure that is a great plan.

Pavelec is a fine backup.

I dno if it's a great plan or not, but Georgievs numbers in Liiga are good, he should be a fine starter in AHL.

 

[nyr2k2]

Pavelec is a fine backup.

I dno if it's a great plan or not, but Georgievs numbers in Liiga are good, he should be a fine starter in AHL.

The Pavelec from the 10-11 season and the 14-15 season would be a fine backup. The Pavelec from literally every other season would be terrible. I mean obviously they've scouted him and think he'll be sufficient, but I'd be much more comfortable with another guy who possesses NHL experience. It may also be helpful for Hartford.

 

[Noma]

A Finnish interview on Georgiev here: http://kiekkoareena.fi/jutut/nhl-aan-lahteva-georgijev-voisin-kehua-tps-aa-ja-turkua-tunteja.

He says that there were talks during the negotiations about him being the AHL starter this season.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Also, for what it's worth, they've misspelled his name. It's apparently listed officially as Alexandar Georgiyev or Aleksandar Georgijev. TPS (his current, or I guess, former team) lists it as the latter, Eliteprospects lists it as the former.

One of my pet peeves is when Russians spell words with a "y" sound with a "j", there's neither a "y" nor a "j" in Cyrillic, so why not spell it phonetically? It's not a misspelling of his name, "y" and "j" don't exist in Cyrillic, and "ie" is another way to make the same sound and neither letter exists in Cyrillic either.

 

[Alessandro Seren Rosso]

Sorry for the bump, but I just had an interview with Georgiev where he talks about his first steps in hockey, move to Finland, signing with Rangers

http://thehockeywriters.com/alexandar-georgiev-ready-new-york-rangers/

Have a good read!

 

[Fitzy]

The Pavelec from the 10-11 season and the 14-15 season would be a fine backup. The Pavelec from literally every other season would be terrible. I mean obviously they've scouted him and think he'll be sufficient, but I'd be much more comfortable with another guy who possesses NHL experience. It may also be helpful for Hartford.

I just hope they give Georgiev a chance to beat out Pavelec in camp.

 

[Osminator]

Sorry for the bump, but I just had an interview with Georgiev where he talks about his first steps in hockey, move to Finland, signing with Rangers

http://thehockeywriters.com/alexandar-georgiev-ready-new-york-rangers/

Have a good read!

Good read! Nice article! Thanks for sharing!

 

[nyr2k2]

I just hope they give Georgiev a chance to beat out Pavelec in camp.

Wouldn't Pavelec have to clear waivers? I don't know if the Rangers would want to risk losing him.

If Pavelec sucked I could see them waiving him during the year. Until that happens I think it's probably his job. Even Georgiev seems to understand he's ticketed for the AHL initially.

 

[Larrybiv]

Just kind of proves that goalies are a dime a dozen. Not too long ago, we had ZERO depth at that position. WHAM! Like magic, now there is a logjam.

 

[nyr2k2]

Just kind of proves that goalies are a dime a dozen. Not too long ago, we had ZERO depth at that position. WHAM! Like magic, now there is a logjam.

Well there's a potential log jam. As we know, goalies are hard to project and often bust. Shesterkin is probably the closest to a sure thing and even then there are no guarantees with him. It's definitely possible that in a few years time we only have one or two "keepers" from the group of Shesterkin, Georgiev, Halverson, Nell, Wall and Huska. I love the depth but I also know it's likely at least half of that group doesn't make it.

It's smart though that we've created so much depth. Most will bust by the hope is that at least one or two emerge as potential starters when Hank is done.

 

[Tawnos]

Well there's a potential log jam. As we know, goalies are hard to project and often bust. Shesterkin is probably the closest to a sure thing and even then there are no guarantees with him. It's definitely possible that in a few years time we only have one or two "keepers" from the group of Shesterkin, Georgiev, Halverson, Nell, Wall and Huska. I love the depth but I also know it's likely at least half of that group doesn't make it.

It's smart though that we've created so much depth. Most will bust by the hope is that at least one or two emerge as potential starters when Hank is done.

Yeah. Of all positions I think that goaltending benefits the most from just getting as many in the system as possible (although all positions benefit from that to varying degrees). More or less that's how we ended up with Lundqvist when we just drafted Snee and already had Asplund, Labarbera, McLean, Degagne, and Holmqvist drafted in the 3 previous drafts. In fact, the Rangers drafted 8 goalies in 5 drafts between 1997 and 2001, including Blackburn. This was all in preparation for Richter's retirement. Of the 8, the Rangers got 1 starter (Lundqvist), 1 middling backup (Labarbera), 1 fringe backup (Holmqvist), and 1 potential starter who we lost to injury (Blackburn).

So we have 6 now.

 

[Fugazy]

Just kind of proves that goalies are a dime a dozen. Not too long ago, we had ZERO depth at that position. WHAM! Like magic, now there is a logjam.

It's always a good problem to have

 

[Kocur Dill]

Funny thing is, they took two late rounders that were within travel distance of Benny and the college boys had fantastic seasons.

Very disappointed in Halverson, but I'm curious to see what a better defense core down there does for the goalies.

My gut feeling is that one of them may be needed in the NHL this year... I just don't see Pavs becoming positionally sound after years of poor positional play and rebound control.

But then again... the Rangers have the goalie whisperer on their side.

I love this. Literally LMAO.

 

[Edge]

Well there's a potential log jam. As we know, goalies are hard to project and often bust. Shesterkin is probably the closest to a sure thing and even then there are no guarantees with him. It's definitely possible that in a few years time we only have one or two "keepers" from the group of Shesterkin, Georgiev, Halverson, Nell, Wall and Huska. I love the depth but I also know it's likely at least half of that group doesn't make it.

It's smart though that we've created so much depth. Most will bust by the hope is that at least one or two emerge as potential starters when Hank is done.

And that says nothing for guys who come out of nowhere like a Cam Talbot.

The Rangers have been very good at finding some hidden gems over the last 13 years.

 

[Edge]

Yeah. Of all positions I think that goaltending benefits the most from just getting as many in the system as possible (although all positions benefit from that to varying degrees). More or less that's how we ended up with Lundqvist when we just drafted Snee and already had Asplund, Labarbera, McLean, Degagne, and Holmqvist drafted in the 3 previous drafts. In fact, the Rangers drafted 8 goalies in 5 drafts between 1997 and 2001, including Blackburn. This was all in preparation for Richter's retirement. Of the 8, the Rangers got 1 starter (Lundqvist), 1 middling backup (Labarbera), 1 fringe backup (Holmqvist), and 1 potential starter who we lost to injury (Blackburn).

So we have 6 now.

Heck, just look at some of the drafts after Lundqvist.

Blackburn, Holt, Montoya, LaFleur, Stajcer, Skapski.

Four of those guys actually saw an NHL arena, two never sniffed one.

And the most successful Rangers goalie prospect outside of Lundqvist this century?

An undrafted project out of the University of Alabama-Huntsville.

Goalies are still wild cards in this sport. You don't always know where you're going to find a starter and you don't know you have a starter until they sink or swim. And good luck getting fair value for an unproven goalie, even if they turn around and immediately become a star.

 

[nyr2k2]

Heck, just look at some of the drafts after Lundqvist.

Blackburn, Holt, Montoya, LaFleur, Stajcer, Skapski.

Four of those guys actually saw an NHL arena, two never sniffed one.

And the most successful Rangers goalie prospect outside of Lundqvist this century?

An undrafted project out of the University of Alabama-Huntsville.

Goalies are still wild cards in this sport. You don't always know where you're going to find a starter and you don't know you have a starter until they sink or swim. And good luck getting fair value for an unproven goalie, even if they turn around and immediately become a star.

We also had a bunch of random guys like Zaba and Wiikman.

 

[007]

One of my pet peeves is when Russians spell words with a "y" sound with a "j", there's neither a "y" nor a "j" in Cyrillic, so why not spell it phonetically? It's not a misspelling of his name, "y" and "j" don't exist in Cyrillic, and "ie" is another way to make the same sound and neither letter exists in Cyrillic either.

The "j" sound in most northern European languages is like the "y" sound in English (actually, English and French are the only two major languages I can immediately think of that pronounce "j" the way they do).

In this case, his name is transliterated into Finnish (if you wrote his name according to the English transliteration, it would be unpronounceable in Finnish -- as in Swedish, the Finnish "y" is rather more like a German "ü"). In a lot of other cases, it's because the transliteration uses a German standard, which makes sense because Germany and Russia have historically had far closer cultural contacts than England or the US and Russia.

 

[Miamipuck]

The "j" sound in most northern European languages is like the "y" sound in English (actually, English and French are the only two major languages I can immediately think of that pronounce "j" the way they do).

In this case, his name is transliterated into Finnish (if you wrote his name according to the English transliteration, it would be unpronounceable in Finnish -- as in Swedish, the Finnish "y" is rather more like a German "ü"). In a lot of other cases, it's because the transliteration uses a German standard, which makes sense because Germany and Russia have historically had far closer cultural contacts than England or the US and Russia.

If he makes the NHL, I will just call him Alex and not have to worry.

 

[Levitate]

Wouldn't Pavelec have to clear waivers? I don't know if the Rangers would want to risk losing him.

If Pavelec sucked I could see them waiving him during the year. Until that happens I think it's probably his job. Even Georgiev seems to understand he's ticketed for the AHL initially.

I don't think losing Pavelec to waivers is a big concern

But yeah I also wouldn't think Georgiev would make it as the backup out of camp. Let's see him do well in the AHL first unless Pavelev really blows bad in preseason and Georgiev plays lights out

 

[Alessandro Seren Rosso]

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