Rumor: Rangers Shakeup (Friedman)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

What would be the asking price for Zibananajed to Winnipeg?

Dumping his salary.

Friedman throws a lot of shit against the wall that doesn't stick. He's still one of the top insiders but he's become somewhat of a clickbait artist the last few years.

Of course they're trying to moving Trouba. Even I could have told you that and I know nothing.

This has been confirmed by a few of the beat writers as being true. It seems legit.

 

[Guyute]

The room is messed up after Drury unceremoniously dumped Goodrow via waivers and tried to trade his captain last summer. Most of the core group of leaders are playing like crap as a result. The vibe is off and clearly the younger guys are taking on larger roles. Getting rid of a few of these guys (maybe 2 of Trouba, Lindgren, Zibanejad, Kreider) will be good for both each player, the Rangers, and the acquiring teams.

 

[BHawk21]

Why would the Rangers be adding?

because Jones is good and Trouba is terrible.

 

[Canucks LB]

Kreider would be such a rick tochett guy, but I don’t know how we can make it work with the cap, considering we need a D as well

 

[qc14]

13-6-2 VS 12-6-1

If You don't know what that is, that is the record of both the Rangers and Leafs, there is a 3 point difference between the 2 teams.

3 points.

1 more win and 1 extra OT loss

The reason I bring up those 2 teams and those 2 records is to show how close they are.

What You are telling me is that the difference between panic and not being panicked is 3 points.

I just think you guys need to relax and chill.

The Rangers are going to be fine there is no need to shake the foundation of the team.

Based on points percentage that's around an 8 point difference over a full season, which is not insignificant. Toronto is also 7-1 in their last 8 despite having their best player out with injury and while not playing the toughest schedule, have a fair number more "quality wins" than NYR does.

While a team's win/loss record may be strongly correlated with their actual quality and "vibes" they are absolutely not equivalent -- especially in an ~20 game sample size. There are lots of reasons under the hood (and honestly not that under the hood) to be fairly worried about the Rangers' play at the start of the season and especially that of some of their older core pieces.

 

[n8]

because Jones is good and Trouba is terrible.

Have you seen his contract? I want nothing to do with 9.5M AAV signed through to the age of 35. That is a cap killer. Hard pass on the player. The fact that you want the terrible Trouba and a decent but unproven contract says you are hiding the fact you just want to dump this albatross. And I don't blame you. Also Jones has a NMC. Zib for Jones would make more sense as their contracts are similar and it would be a D for C. But then I'd say we're pretty good on RHD in NY. We are in more need of LHD.

 

[SensFactor]

Krieder would be a great fit in Ottawa. I've always liked his game.

 

[Tawnos]

Kreider would be such a rick tochett guy, but I don’t know how we can make it work with the cap, considering we need a D as well

Any Kreider trade is going to be a hockey trade. It's not going to be for futures. Or at least not picks/prospects kind of futures. I'm not saying these as serious trade proposals, but think more like Kreider for Garland rather than for Kreider for Lekkerimaki. Some of the cap would work itself out in the process.

 

[HuGort]

Rangers either Cup or bust this season

 

[Nogatco Rd]

It was literally confirmed this past offseason that Trouba did not have negative value.

I know there were teams interested in whatever NYR was proposing, do we know for sure that the rangers weren’t including sweeteners in their proposals?

Would be surprised to find out that there are teams willing to take on all that salary for what Trouba brings to the table, with no picks attached

 

[kvladimir]

Not sure if this would have any legs, but just something I thought up when thinking about some teams' (especially NYR) needs.

It's very rare that a deal this significant happens at all, let alone between division rivals, but how about this for NYR/PHI, both of whom clearly need different kinds of shakeups?

To NYR: Sanheim, Tippett, Frost
To PHI: Krieder, Trouba, Othmann, +

Feels like a + from NYR would be needed... also, this deal would be just $50k going to NYR. From their perspective, it's a better balance of LD/RD in their top 4 (Sanheim-Fox, Miller-Schneider), and you can now move Laf to LW, bring Tippett in as a RW (not sure what lines would make the most sense)

For PHI, you get a significant prospect, plus add solid veteran leadership, including at a position of need (RD). They still need C help, but they have options. Trouba stays close to home. Only Sanheim has a full NMC, Kreider/Trouba have 15-team NTCs that PHI are probably not on.

Just something to put out there, obviously I am not intimately familiar how each team feels about each player...

 

[TGWL]

Based on points percentage that's around an 8 point difference over a full season, which is not insignificant. Toronto is also 7-1 in their last 8 despite having their best player out with injury and while not playing the toughest schedule, have a fair number more "quality wins" than NYR does.

While a team's win/loss record may be strongly correlated with their actual quality and "vibes" they are absolutely not equivalent -- especially in an ~20 game sample size. There are lots of reasons under the hood (and honestly not that under the hood) to be fairly worried about the Rangers' play at the start of the season and especially that of some of their older core pieces.

In fairness to the poster... before the loss last night, the point difference over a full season was less than 2. But yes they have a boat load of issues right now,