Rangers Season Ticket Holders: Part XI

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The bridges are amazing for hockey, because the wide angle is so great for that sport. They’re not that great for basketball because proximity is more valuable in that sport. That being said, paying double for them for hockey is ridiculous.

In general, I’m a sucker for the barstool seats at msg just cause they’re so comfortable to watch a game in. I’m a bigger guy so getting that extra space around me, a stool to hang my coat on, and a table to put my food and drinks on is great.
I would like barstools either in the lowers or the bridges but my knick seats are row 1 dead center so I'm happy with those. Especially with barstools being the same price. I used to have a half plan in the upper bowl in center and a full in the corner and I like the bridges much more. I also spent a season in the bridges at the baseline and those were better IMO but my seats now are much better with everything right in front of you. Some people aren't too comfortable in the row 1s though as they are tight plus people can be anxious about the height.
 
OT: But I will never buy Knicks tickets until they proven they aren't dysfunctional for an extended period of time. As much as we complain sometimes as to how the Rangers are run, the Knicks are 100x worse.
 
I don't think the Knicks are run any worse. Gorton and Slats both signed players to bad contracts and also traded away propsects and picks for older vets just like the Knicks have under <insert GM here>.

Oddly enough I just got an email from stubhub for tickets to the rangers draft party but the title was Rangers Playoffs.
 
I don't think the Knicks are run any worse. Gorton and Slats both signed players to bad contracts and also traded away propsects and picks for older vets just like the Knicks have under <insert GM here>.

Oddly enough I just got an email from stubhub for tickets to the rangers draft party but the title was Rangers Playoffs.
One team has made the playoffs consistently including a finals appearance in the past decade. The other has made the playoffs a handful of times. I don't think it's really close.
 
Just saying hypothetically, what if this young core plays really well and we sneak in at the 8th spot? You don't think 19-20 will have a lot more demand and hype?

I think '19-'20 will have more demand and hype. That said I still don't think it's likely we'll be contending just yet, even though I do expect we will be challenging for a playoff spot. This upcoming season I expect us to be bottom 10, perhaps bottom 5 in the league. So sure, if they managed to sneak into the playoffs that could create some buzz for the following year, but I would be very surprised if that happens. Bottom line is I would not recommend anyone become a season subscriber for this year.
 
I don't think the Knicks are run any worse. Gorton and Slats both signed players to bad contracts and also traded away propsects and picks for older vets just like the Knicks have under <insert GM here>.

Oddly enough I just got an email from stubhub for tickets to the rangers draft party but the title was Rangers Playoffs.
The Knicks were run infinitely worse under phil Jackson, who alienated the stars and then signed crappy old players to absurd contracts. If the rangers sign rick Nash to a 4 year 24 million dollar contract this offseason, then they’re run the same way as the Knicks. They’re starting to get a youth movement going which is good, but since the nba is already a superstar driven league, there’s only so much you can do. The rangers are so much smarter... they were close to competing for a playoff spot but instead sold all their aging pieces and now have a decent haul. That’s a yankees move, not a Knicks move.

I think '19-'20 will have more demand and hype. That said I still don't think it's likely we'll be contending just yet, even though I do expect we will be challenging for a playoff spot. This upcoming season I expect us to be bottom 10, perhaps bottom 5 in the league. So sure, if they managed to sneak into the playoffs that could create some buzz for the following year, but I would be very surprised if that happens. Bottom line is I would not recommend anyone become a season subscriber for this year.
I’m not as pessimistic as you are. Hockey is such a random sport that they could absolutely contend, especially if they make a run at a couple top targets. They could easily trade for Erik karlsson, and be right in the thick of it again. With Lundqvist only having a few more years, they might try and expedite this. Add the fact that the stupid loser point actually helps teams stay in contention, and they could easily sneak in.
 
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Just saying hypothetically, what if this young core plays really well and we sneak in at the 8th spot? You don't think 19-20 will have a lot more demand and hype?
Don't underestimate #30 with a defense-first system. I get your thought on buying low. Key question is whether you can be like Tesla and weather the (potential) drought if it happens for 2 years.
 
The Knicks were run infinitely worse under phil Jackson, who alienated the stars and then signed crappy old players to absurd contracts. If the rangers sign rick Nash to a 4 year 24 million dollar contract this offseason, then they’re run the same way as the Knicks. They’re starting to get a youth movement going which is good, but since the nba is already a superstar driven league, there’s only so much you can do. The rangers are so much smarter... they were close to competing for a playoff spot but instead sold all their aging pieces and now have a decent haul. That’s a yankees move, not a Knicks move.
The difference is that Slats had a much larger roster for his mistakes to be covered up - imagine if there was no salary cap or if there was a soft cap like in the NBA. The Rangers would have plenty of Joakim Noahs on the team. And it didn't hurt that the rangers drafted the best player on the team in the 7th round which Don Maloney admitted was blind luck. This just isn't something that can happen in the NBA.
 
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The difference is that Slats had a much larger roster for his mistakes to be covered up - imagine if there was no salary cap or if there was a soft cap like in the NBA. The Rangers would have plenty of Joakim Noahs on the team. And it didn't hurt that the rangers drafted the best player on the team in the 7th round which Don Maloney admitted was blind luck. This just isn't something that can happen in the NBA.
Yeah I mean there was definitely a time where sather would just throw money at any UFA to build the team that way (hello Theo Fleury), but just can’t do that now. But considering that the rangers were annual contenders for the early 2010s up until 2016, they were definitely managed better. Hell they made a cup final!

In contrast, the Knicks have made the playoffs just once since the 2000s. And that was a complete accident where they decided to build their roster the complete opposite the year after!
 
The Knicks were run infinitely worse under phil Jackson, who alienated the stars and then signed crappy old players to absurd contracts. If the rangers sign rick Nash to a 4 year 24 million dollar contract this offseason, then they’re run the same way as the Knicks. They’re starting to get a youth movement going which is good, but since the nba is already a superstar driven league, there’s only so much you can do. The rangers are so much smarter... they were close to competing for a playoff spot but instead sold all their aging pieces and now have a decent haul. That’s a yankees move, not a Knicks move.


I’m not as pessimistic as you are. Hockey is such a random sport that they could absolutely contend, especially if they make a run at a couple top targets. They could easily trade for Erik karlsson, and be right in the thick of it again. With Lundqvist only having a few more years, they might try and expedite this. Add the fact that the stupid loser point actually helps teams stay in contention, and they could easily sneak in.

If they trade for karlsson then they were not serious about a rebuild. Full stop.
 
If they trade for karlsson then they were not serious about a rebuild. Full stop.
True but things have materially changed with the dumpster fire that is the Ottawa Senators, to the point where they can potentially acquire someone like karlsson for less assets than they thought they’d originally have to give up.

Like, would the Yankees have gone for Giancarlo Stanton if they had to give up decent assets matching his worth? Prob not. But they got him for peanuts, and Ottawa might have to trade Erik for peanuts as well.
 
Where would the Rangers be if they didn't draft Hank in the 7th round? Where would the Knicks be if they drafted someone like Chris Paul in the 2nd round?
 
True but things have materially changed with the dumpster fire that is the Ottawa Senators, to the point where they can potentially acquire someone like karlsson for less assets than they thought they’d originally have to give up.

Like, would the Yankees have gone for Giancarlo Stanton if they had to give up decent assets matching his worth? Prob not. But they got him for peanuts, and Ottawa might have to trade Erik for peanuts as well.

I agree that if you get a great asset for cents on the dollar it makes sense to do it. But let's see what happens with EK before we suggest this team will be any good next season. I've stated many times I don't want any $$$$ UFAs this summer. I'm fine with us bottoming out this season. Let's do the rebuild the right way so we can make it to the ultimate goal the next time. A lost season is not enjoyable...but if it means the difference between making the playoffs for a few years vs. winning it all it's a small price to pay.
 
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IMO, the question isn't about the rangers signing long term UFAs but what should the we do with our own RFAs and upcoming UFAs.
 
A question for NYR season ticket holders. Are you given paper keepsake style tickets or is the trend going toward digital/print-at-home? I plan on visiting MSG and buy all of my tickets on StubHub. Last season I bought 2 tickets for another team and selected UPS delivery as all of my previous experiences with said delivery option have yielded a traditional season ticket. I was sent a print-at-home ticket and was livid. Why spend money to receive UPS when I could have purchased a digital for no extra charge.

In short, I'm trying to gauge the odds if I resort to StubHub as to what type of ticket I'd be getting.
 
A question for NYR season ticket holders. Are you given paper keepsake style tickets or is the trend going toward digital/print-at-home? I plan on visiting MSG and buy all of my tickets on StubHub. Last season I bought 2 tickets for another team and selected UPS delivery as all of my previous experiences with said delivery option have yielded a traditional season ticket. I was sent a print-at-home ticket and was livid. Why spend money to receive UPS when I could have purchased a digital for no extra charge.

In short, I'm trying to gauge the odds if I resort to StubHub as to what type of ticket I'd be getting.
The last time I bought UPS tickets, UPS misdelivered them and luckily the Ranger fan who they delivered them to dropped them off at my house wearing a Ranger hat. I will only buy electronic tickets now.
 
I've never had a problem with getting hard tickets from msg except that one time that led to a lunch with Adam graves. Any tickets I resell will be those hard tickets unless it's too close to game time.
 
A question for NYR season ticket holders. Are you given paper keepsake style tickets or is the trend going toward digital/print-at-home? I plan on visiting MSG and buy all of my tickets on StubHub. Last season I bought 2 tickets for another team and selected UPS delivery as all of my previous experiences with said delivery option have yielded a traditional season ticket. I was sent a print-at-home ticket and was livid. Why spend money to receive UPS when I could have purchased a digital for no extra charge.

In short, I'm trying to gauge the odds if I resort to StubHub as to what type of ticket I'd be getting.

I've had that happen to me as well. In all likelihood, you'll get a hard copy ticket be it MSG stock or the season ticket stock. NYR season ticket holders aren't able to print their PDF's until 72 hours before game time so it pretty much makes it impossible to ship PDF's.
 
It's good to know that the Knicks' winning draft mentality has been given the full buy-in by the Rangers.
 
I've never had a problem with getting hard tickets from msg except that one time that led to a lunch with Adam graves. Any tickets I resell will be those hard tickets unless it's too close to game time.
February 2012? With Stephanie?
 
yeah absolutely, you get the best prices and the least hassles and avoid risk of being defrauded of the entire ticket value. You just have to wait until they activate the resale system in September
Thank you for answering my original question and another one I had regarding as to when you can start selling on TM. :P
 
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