These ratings are hilarious. It's like no one actually watches the games they look at analytics and judge the player on that alone.
The players downplayed the bubble games. Yes, they were a unique experience but the reality is outside of watching Lundqvist play his final games they weren't that important.The bubble was unimportant? Really. I guess games that were the right to go on to the playoffs are unimportant.
You sure have a lot of snide remarks for someone who won’t post his ratings.These ratings are hilarious. It's like no one actually watches the games they look at analytics and judge the player on that alone.
Terrific.The players downplayed the bubble games. Yes, they were a unique experience but the reality is outside of watching Lundqvist play his final games they weren't that important.
The bubble was unimportant? Really. I guess games that were the right to go on to the playoffs are unimportant.
Terrific.The games werent unimportant but judging play in the play in rounds doesnt reflect the players. Kakko was the best forward in that series, how was he compared to the rest of the team this run which is a significant portion of the same players?
This year he was 11th in scoring on the rangers
It's crazy how people still point to the bubble games as if they actually meant something or that we could actually learn something from them.
Terrific.
You're comparing a kid who was a rookie to a high-paid vet. But please, do go on...The games were important but they dont reflect much about the players. It did lead to a stanley cup winner but the quality of games was at pre season levels until the conference finals (maybe parts of 2 round)
So what did you feel kakko showed you from the play in round that made him play better in this playoff?
You're comparing a kid who was a rookie to a high-paid vet. But please, do go on...
Terrific.Yeah good answer, you know a player that didnt play in the play in rounds still had more points then him but im only using vets. At least 4 other youngsters players that played in that same play in round who were terrible and were much better this season, what can you take away from the play in round now? Nothing because it wasnt representive of how they reacted this year.
The 1 positive i do give them is a little experience of win or go home. That doesnt mean i expected the same bad play.
Terrific.
That was the point I was making. You can't make any assumptions about players ability to rise to the occasion in playoffs from the bubble. Such unique circumstances that will never be replicated.The games were important but they dont reflect much about the players. It did lead to a stanley cup winner but the quality of games was at pre season levels until the conference finals (maybe parts of 2 round)
So what did you feel kakko showed you from the play in round that made him play better in this playoff?
4 years remaining on his contract. This was year 3. He looked and played injured to me. It will be interesting to see what ailed him.That's pretty alarming then, but I still remember him dominating in the playoffs when he was on the Jackets. I guess we'll find out soon enough but i'd be floored if he wasn't playing with some sort of significant injury. And if he wasn't then I would be very concerned that we have him another 6 years or whatever it is.
So if you flip the script and the Rookie has 96 points and the high-paid vet has 30 points then the comparison is ok?You're comparing a kid who was a rookie to a high-paid vet. But please, do go on...
Why would you flip the script?So if you flip the script and the Rookie has 96 points and the high-paid vet has 30 points then the comparison is ok?
It's crazy how people still point to the bubble games as if they actually meant something or that we could actually learn something from them.
They still wouldn't matter. Who can glean anything from players who took 5 months off during a pandemic and then had like 1 week of training camp and then thrown into a bubble to play in front of empty arenas. Not only were they not in game shape, but dealing with a pandemic, they were not in a good mental space either. On top of that playing in front of an empty arena. Panarin even noted months later how he realized that playing in front of empty arenas affected him mentally.If the Rangers had a great play in round but lost in the first round these same players would say it didn't matter,
My favorite kind of thread
Blais - C+ - it was only like 16 games but he's a useful player. Fast-ish, hits comically hard, and has surprisingly good hands in tight. He's really dumb though and I think the idea that he's anything more than a "fine" 3rd liner is misguided. Would've been cool to see him in the playoffs, though
Chytil:
Regular Season: C+
Playoffs: A-
Had probably his worst regular season but was also very unlucky. He took his game to another gear in the playoffs and I'm still pretty impressed at him calling out the team for not shooting enough, following that up with a GWG. He's a weird player, fast, good carrying the puck, and showed a new level of physicality and battle in the playoffs. He needs to be that kind of player to succeed. I'm excited to see what he does next year.
Copp:
Regular Season: A
Playoffs: C
Was one of our best skaters down the stretch and gave an admirable effort against Pitts and Carolina. You can see why he's so good in transition. He has some bad bouts of tunnel vision but he's great at carrying the puck and fine defensively. His injury (that i'm speculating he has) really hurt him down the stretch and his effectiveness declined series over series, culminating in a horrendous series against Tampa where he might've been one of our worst skaters. I'm not sure where we go with him, i'd welcome him back though.
Gauthier:
Regular Season: D
He sucks and i'm sick of seeing him. If he was physical and skated hard every shift he'd be an NHL'er. Even if he makes those changes to his game, it almost certainly won't be here, since he's really bad defensively I can't see any coach trusting him on the 4th line.
Goodrow:
Regular Season: C-
Playoffs: D-
He wasn't signed for the regular season. He's a whatever bottom 6 player that is good enough at a lot of things the Rangers aren't good at. I can't rag on him too much in the playoffs because it was clear he should not have come back with his injury but he was baaaaaaaaaaaad against Tampa. Really bad.
Hunt:
Regular Season: B-
I like Hunt more than most and am frustrated that Gallant didn't trust him enough for whatever stupid reason to play him in the playoffs. He's a monster on the boards and can stay in the offensive zone for hours. Those players are valuable in the playoffs. We could've really used that to slow down Pitts and Tampa's game. Hated him on the second line but that's not his fault. I hope he stays a regular next year.
Kakko:
Regular Season: B-
Playoffs: B+
Never got into any kind of groove and had bursts of great skill and puck protection. His skating direly, direly needs to improve for him to be any good. His offensive instincts are lacking at the NHL level and he legit does not trust his toolkit and on year 3, I'm getting pretty sick of it. He was a strong part of our best line though and I will not discount that.
Kreider:
Regular Season: B+
Playoffs: C
It feels weird giving a 52 goal scorer in the RS a B+ but here I am. His goal scoring efforts were truly marvelous but Chris Kreider does not do nearly enough at ES anymore. He's not strong enough on the boards as he used to be and with his speed gimped too (that tends to happen when you turn 31) I don't think he's ideally in the top 6 anymore going forward. He just doesn't do enough there and it really showed in the playoffs (I know he led us in goals, my point stands).
Lafrenière:
Regular Season: B
Playoffs: A+
Up and down regular season where he was routinely yanked off lines where he was succeeding but he really seemed to get comfortable in his skin the last 2 months and really started showing off his elite talent. His playoffs to me were borderline captain material. Never took a shift off, was relentlessly physical, and made something out of every shift. It's an absolute tragedy that his incredible effort in game 6 against Tampa that drew the penalty we scored on went to waste. f***ing tragic. He needs to get way more ice time at ES next year.
McKegg:
Regular season: F-
Please. No more daddy. I'm begging you.
Motte:
Regular season: B+
Playoffs: A-
His speed and awareness are a sight to behold. He's so f***ing good on the PK and disruptions in the defensive zone. Amazing find by Drury and our scouts. He has not one ounce of talent offensively however and tbh that matters. Especially if he's going to make the money he likely will. I let him walk but I loved almost every second of him here.
Panarin:
Regular season: B
Playoffs: C-
Had a regular season where he was a diminished impact at ES. I was disappointed with him at least half of the year. I thought he was at his best with Copp at C and Strome hurt. He was a monster in that short stretch. But then Strome came back and it was all over. His playoffs were, um, pretty horrendous lol. Absolutely useless player until Tampa where IMO he was very effective, it just happened to coincide with Strome and Copp completely collapsing in effectiveness. Real shame. I absolutely do not trade him or even consider moving him at this point. He knows he f***ed up, he knows he can be better. I let him work through it.
Reaves:
Regular Season: C-
Playoffs: C-
He's just too slow. Too slow to be impactful. Too slow to be threatening. Too slow to make plays. I love the guy but he can't f***ing skate. And he was our worst player against Tampa. He knew it too.
Rooney:
Regular season: F
Playoffs: F
He was absolutely horrible this year. He forgot how to use a hockey stick, I can't think of any better explanation. He single-handidly killed more possessions this year than any regular roster forward I can think of in years. Just f***ing terrible and he got miles and miles of undeserved slack because he "plays" "center". I don't ever want to see him again.
Strome:
Regular season: B-
Playoffs: C
He's fine for what he is. A one dimensional top 6 center who couldn't give a f*** less about the other two zones. Really happy to have had him during our transition but he absolutely cannot come back. There's nothing left to say about him that everyone else hasn't already said. I do wish he got some time split from Panarin, they are both different players away from each other. But clearly you need to take the coach's toys away here, so go on and do it.
Vatrano:
Regular season: A-
Playoffs: B-
Did what everyone said he'd do. Got some nice goals, shot the puck a lot, gave an effort every shift. That effort bought him way too much ice time, however, and it showed in the playoffs when he was AHL level in our own zone. I'd bring him back if he was affordable and if he stayed in the bottom 6. But that won't happen, so bye Frankie.
Zibanejad
Regular season: A
Playoffs: A+
Rough start to the year and the playoffs but he absolutely roared back both times. Dynamic every game in the playoffs after game 5 against Pitts. Even when his line was getting waxed by Cirelli and friends, he still did everything he could to make plays. Wasn't his fault that Kreider and Vatrano just dropped dead. He proved a lot to me this playoff run.
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Braun:
Regular Season: n/a
Playoffs: B
He really stabilized Schneider in the playoffs. Played about as good as you could've expected. Steady and good enough with the puck.
Fox:
Regular season: A
Playoffs: A+
He wasn't as dynamic in the regular season as the last two but he's been hurt since January. I think whatever he has (had) has really impacted his movement. He was absolutely electric in the playoffs at all strengths and greatly outplayed some defensemen that have tons of playoff experience. Another player that proved a lot to me.
Hajek:
Regular season: D
Playoffs: n/a
bye.
Lindgren
Regular season: C-
Playoffs: A
Absolute shit regular season followed up with a very strong playoffs. I don't know how this kid will live past 30. Ironically though, these playoffs just cemented to me that he's not a player I keep past this contract. Also do NOT buy into the narrative that he "enables Fox". He's just the guy playing next to him and he's fine. I really appreciated his brutality these playoffs though. Love the guy.
Miller:
Regular season: B+
Playoffs: A
Two KAM's this year. One from October - January that looked the same in a lot of ways as his rookie year. And then the top pairing human eraser that graced us with his presence from February through the playoffs. Particularly against Pittsburgh and Carolina, he was FANTASTIC. Skating, moving the puck, making the right plays, it was all there. Trouba has this reputation as a "steadying player" for him but it's very much the opposite IMO, he stabilizes Trouba, who takes plenty of stupid chances and doesn't have even close to the skating to recover. He tailed off pretty dramatically against Tampa but I can't blame him, he went form 40-50 games a year to 100. You had to expect it. Can't wait to see him next year.
Nemeth:
Regular season: F
Playoffs: F
Was completely wrong about him. he's atrocious. never want to see him again.
Schneider:
Regular Season: C-
Playoffs: C+
He earned his spot but really wasn't effective in the regular season. He tailed off very quickly and to me, it was clear he was not NHL ready by the time March-April was here. He was our worst defenseman, handily, against Pittsburgh and he got beat like a dog. But after that I feel he calmed down a bit and he was much more solid against Carolina and Tampa. He impressed me a bit there. He had every right to suck but he was, fine. He has a very fascinating skillset, he's big and tuff but he also has some surprisingly good offensive instincts, a good shot, and he can skate. I'm excited to see him grow.
Trouba:
Regular Season: A-
Playoffs: B
Highest of highs and lowest of lows these playoffs. He is a high impact player but it goes both ways. He single handily cost us several goals and a game or two with his tendency to be an absolute f***ing idiot. Very low IQ player. But he's the last of a dying breed of defenseman, there are very few players like him left and I'd rather hold onto him while we can. He NEEDS to come off the powerplay though and rein in some of his chances. He's never been a good skater and he ain't getting better with age. Enough.
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Georgiev:
Regular season: D-
Playoffs: n/a
Happy trails.
Shesterkin:
Regular Season: A+
Playoffs: A
He was on lock most of the playoffs but I think he gave up more bad goals this one run than Hank had from 11-15 combined. I think he got hurt on that Carter play. Besides that, he's probably the best goalie in the world.