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Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 8.7.18)

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Not sure I saw this posted earlier but it looks like Riley Hughes is officially joining the Victoria Grizzlies of the BCHL for the upcoming season before Northeastern in 2019. Will be a long road for him to the pros and interesting to follow.
 
Ola said:
The WJSS should be streamed. Last year you had to pay a fee but the last years good streams have been available. @Steve Kournianos do you know of any stream this year?
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TSN has the rights so they will be broadcasting. HockeyTV isn't (they have the Hlinka), and guessing streams aren't going to be on Hockey Canada's website.

Maybe USA Hockey or NHL Network will announce broadcast options besides TSN. Keep checking USA Hockey's Twitter feed. First game is the 30th.
 
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TheKingsCourt said:
When you have people like Kreiderman on ignore you gotta ask yourself if maybe you're the problem Steve. It really isnt that personal.
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Ignoring a handful of people on here isn't personal. I simply don't value their hockey-related input. I'm sure they're all cool people. They obviously don't like mine so no harm, no foul.
 
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Matz03 said:
Not sure I saw this posted earlier but it looks like Riley Hughes is officially joining the Victoria Grizzlies of the BCHL for the upcoming season before Northeastern in 2019. Will be a long road for him to the pros and interesting to follow.
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It was discussed at some point in one of the threads. He had been scrimmaging with his USHL team up through the draft and it looked like he would play there this year, but then the opportunity to play for Victoria came along. I don't know where the quote is, but he said the chance to play in the BCHL, a league which he described as offensively-oriented, was too good to pass up. So, here he is. He follows some of our recent prospects like Huska, Nanne and Fogarty who did a year of USHL/Junior A in their D+1 season before going to college.
 
nyr2k2 said:
It was discussed at some point in one of the threads. He had been scrimmaging with his USHL team up through the draft and it looked like he would play there this year, but then the opportunity to play for Victoria came along. I don't know where the quote is, but he said the chance to play in the BCHL, a league which he described as offensively-oriented, was too good to pass up. So, here he is. He follows some of our recent prospects like Huska, Nanne and Fogarty who did a year of USHL/Junior A in their D+1 season before going to college.
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And he'll get to play with Alex Newhook :naughty:
 
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nyr2k2 said:
He follows some of our recent prospects like Huska, Nanne and Fogarty who did a year of USHL/Junior A in their D+1 season before going to college.
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That list is 0-2 on development, and depending on Huska, could be 0-3. Small sample, and none of them were/are big time prospects, but it may not be the best way to go for players.
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
That list is 0-2 on development, and depending on Huska, could be 0-3. Small sample, and none of them were/are big time prospects, but it may not be the best way to go for players.
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To be fair, odds are against Hughes already just by him being one of the last picks in the draft
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
That list is 0-2 on development, and depending on Huska, could be 0-3. Small sample, and none of them were/are big time prospects, but it may not be the best way to go for players.
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Well, that's a little tough.

Nanne had the heart infection, missing an entire year, and then had to sit out a year transferring from OSU to Minnesota to be closer to home. So, he never really had a chance.

Fogarty went into the BCHL with a reputation as an offensive guy who played no defense. He left with the reputation as a shut-down, defensive-type. That was probably good for him as the offense he had didn't translate to NCAA hockey at all, really. Without developing his defensive game he might have fallen off the map completely. Also, Notre Dame was who wanted him to play in the BCHL since they didn't think he was ready straight out of high school and were probably right, based on how things developed.

So, for me, Nanne gets a total pass given his circumstances, the D+1 BCHL season worked out fairly well for Fogarty, and Huska seems on a good path. JMO.
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
That list is 0-2 on development, and depending on Huska, could be 0-3. Small sample, and none of them were/are big time prospects, but it may not be the best way to go for players.
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the Huska inclusion is somewhat out of context, at young age he came over from Slovakia mid-season, played a full year at US Junior level, then entered college over here
 
cwede said:
the Huska inclusion is somewhat out of context, at young age he came over from Slovakia mid-season, played a full year at US Junior level, then entered college over here
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It's all about the development trajectory. Switching to NCAA Div 1 in your D+2 year is true for Huska, as well as Nanne, Fogarty and now Hughes.
 
Scott Wheeler ranked his top 50 prospects (using players 23 and under) with 70 honorable mentions. Chytil came in at 23, while Lias, Howden, and Rykov were in his honorable mention. I'll post his top-10:
1. Dahlin
2. Elias Petersson
3. Andrei Svechnkikov
4. Casey Mittelstadt
5. Filip Zadina
6. Eeli Tolvanen
7. Miro Heiskanen
8. Quinn Hughes
9. Martin Necas
10. Dylan Strome

I'm honestly really surprised that he weighs Necas' Extraliga production so heavily, especially when he praises Dylan's Strome AHL production in the next rank. Surprised he included so many 2018 draftees but not Kravtsov.
 
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Mac n Gs said:
Scott Wheeler ranked his top 50 prospects (using players 23 and under) with 70 honorable mentions. Chytil came in at 23, while Lias and Rykov were in his honorable mention. I'll post his top-10:
1. Dahlin
2. Elias Petersson
3. Andrei Svechnkikov
4. Casey Mittelstadt
5. Filip Zadina
6. Eeli Tolvanen
7. Miro Heiskanen
8. Quinn Hughes
9. Martin Necas
10. Dylan Strome

I'm honestly really surprised that he weighs Necas' Extraliga production so heavily, especially when he praises Dylan's Strome AHL production in the next rank. Surprised he included so many 2018 draftees but not Kravtsov.
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I was also surprised that he listed three goalies (Samsonov, Hart, Sorokin in that order) but not Shestyorkin.
 
Mac n Gs said:
Scott Wheeler ranked his top 50 prospects (using players 23 and under) with 70 honorable mentions. Chytil came in at 23, while Lias and Rykov were in his honorable mention. I'll post his top-10:
1. Dahlin
2. Elias Petersson
3. Andrei Svechnkikov
4. Casey Mittelstadt
5. Filip Zadina
6. Eeli Tolvanen
7. Miro Heiskanen
8. Quinn Hughes
9. Martin Necas
10. Dylan Strome

I'm honestly really surprised that he weighs Necas' Extraliga production so heavily, especially when he praises Dylan's Strome AHL production in the next rank. Surprised he included so many 2018 draftees but not Kravtsov.
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Howden was an honorable mention as well.
 
nyr2k2 said:
That's a **** list. Yeah, it's all subjective, blah blah. HF community lists are way better. It's like some of these guys feel like they need to be "smart" to give their list some traction and they just outsmart themselves.
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Ya know, I really was contemplating just ctrl+a and deleting the entire post. Wheeler is a good prospect analyst, and I like seeing differing opinions. His reasonings on some of the rankings were a bit weak to me, but I at least can appreciate his explanations. Like you said, it's subjective, but I think it's important to see how some of the draft guys rank our guys relative to the league.
 
nyr2k2 said:
Well, that's a little tough.

Nanne had the heart infection, missing an entire year, and then had to sit out a year transferring from OSU to Minnesota to be closer to home. So, he never really had a chance.

Fogarty went into the BCHL with a reputation as an offensive guy who played no defense. He left with the reputation as a shut-down, defensive-type. That was probably good for him as the offense he had didn't translate to NCAA hockey at all, really. Without developing his defensive game he might have fallen off the map completely. Also, Notre Dame was who wanted him to play in the BCHL since they didn't think he was ready straight out of high school and were probably right, based on how things developed.

So, for me, Nanne gets a total pass given his circumstances, the D+1 BCHL season worked out fairly well for Fogarty, and Huska seems on a good path. JMO.
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If I'm not mistaken, Huska played his post draft year in the USHL with Green Bay. BCHL and the USHL are similar leagues, IMO, so the sample size for Huska is still relevant to what you mention. Sorry to nit-pick :D
 
Mac n Gs said:
Scott Wheeler ranked his top 50 prospects (using players 23 and under) with 70 honorable mentions. Chytil came in at 23, while Lias, Howden, and Rykov were in his honorable mention. I'll post his top-10:
1. Dahlin
2. Elias Petersson
3. Andrei Svechnkikov
4. Casey Mittelstadt
5. Filip Zadina
6. Eeli Tolvanen
7. Miro Heiskanen
8. Quinn Hughes
9. Martin Necas
10. Dylan Strome

I'm honestly really surprised that he weighs Necas' Extraliga production so heavily, especially when he praises Dylan's Strome AHL production in the next rank. Surprised he included so many 2018 draftees but not Kravtsov.
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That list is hella bs. How is Shesterkin not even on the list, but Dylan Strome is at No. 10? Honestly, that's really laughable especially from a decent writer :shakehead
 
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Joey Bones said:
If I'm not mistaken, Huska played his post draft year in the USHL with Green Bay. BCHL and the USHL are similar leagues, IMO, so the sample size for Huska is still relevant to what you mention. Sorry to nit-pick :D
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I'm not sure what you mean.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I'm not sure what you mean.
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Nevermind, I misunderstood the original post, lolol. :help:

But to throw my two cents in, the fact that Hughes mentions the BCHL as a more "offensive oriented" NCAA feeder league could be debated. I, for one, feel the USHL to be more offensive oriented which definitely helped Huska in his post draft year. But Fogarty showed no offensive ability in the BCHL when he played with Penticton. Maybe Hughes thinks playing with Newhook will create more offense, but I wouldn't say the league itself is more offensive to that of the USHL or even the NAHL.
 
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