Snow said he was mediocre the last 2 years before this. I agreed that he had a down year this year, and it happens. I’m willing to throw out a lot of the results from this year with guys on this team. Everyone was bad except Cuylle pretty much.
On the one hand fair enough, we know he can be better and it was a tough year. Hopefully he returns to form.
On the other hand the numbers indicate that Igor mailed it in like all the other vets this year, the vets that are set to be run out of town. He certainly didn’t put the team on his back. Now that he’s #1 on the payroll roster he’s gotta deliver more than he did this season.
If the Oilers had better than a JAG in goal, wouldn't they have had a better chance of beating an arguably overpaid Bobbo? And Bob needed to "bounce back" to make his contract worthwhile in the first place.Idk I feel like it's a downfall because 31 teams don't win the Cup and we just kind of ignore that a "just a guy" goalie wins the Cup every year.
I think a good, not great running back is necessary. Most teams that win the Cup could win it with their AHL starter. A handful of them did!
You can put knoblauch
Pk was mostly good cause of goalies but the offense was better on pk at least lol is that also on muse or the o coach?Didn't Muse run the PK? Third overall in '23-'24 and 11th this season. That's clearly regression, but I think PK has been a strength for NYR. And I believe how they've killed under Muse aligns with what Sullivan wants to accomplish defensively.
Also no goaltending. Kuemper did not work well on that teamAs @TheTakedown pointed out, Carberry looked like an absolute clown a year ago when we swept the Caps. Washington made sweeping additions to their roster this summer and they still arent really a real Cup contender by any of the measure that are routinely held against the Rangers. It helped that Ovechkin and Wilson have had their best seasons since their Cup year in 2018. I wanted Knoblauch when we hired Laviolette but whats done is done. Sullivan is the best candidate.
Could not have said it better myself.I like the Sullivan hire, but I wont be happy if they make no changes and just think a new voice will fix things. The purge isnt done and this hasnt changed my thinking. But as far as the cultural issues with the team, it was important to bring in a real CEO type, not Gallant who blew his nose with his tie and Laviolette who was afraid to enter the locker room and checked out like the vets at the first sign of adversity.. Sullivan is hands on and demanding of his players. He was Crosby's guy. That matters to me. He hung on a long time with shit rosters and the leagues worst goaltending because he had Sid's respect.
So he's not afraid to scratch and bench players?I like the Sullivan hire, but I wont be happy if they make no changes and just think a new voice will fix things. The purge isnt done and this hasnt changed my thinking. But as far as the cultural issues with the team, it was important to bring in a real CEO type, not Gallant who blew his nose with his tie and Laviolette who was afraid to enter the locker room and checked out like the vets at the first sign of adversity.. Sullivan is hands on and demanding of his players. He was Crosby's guy. That matters to me. He hung on a long time with shit rosters and the leagues worst goaltending because he had Sid's respect.
So he's not afraid to scratch and bench players?
If the Oilers had better than a JAG in goal, wouldn't they have had a better chance of beating an arguably overpaid Bobbo? And Bob needed to "bounce back" to make his contract worthwhile in the first place.
I'm with you on the premise. It's just not "every year." Saquon just won a Bowl, too.
The Panthers and Eagles could have still won with a "GOOD" G/RB.
The point remains that the primary reason that he caps are good is NOT specifically, let alone solely *because* of Carberry... Multiple players had career years after the GM provided the team with real depth (some developed, some signed) a good defensive addition (chycrun), and a good goaltending tandem (Lindgren and Thompson are both tier B+/A- goaltenders)...I don't think he looked like a clown, but opinions vary. However, the bigger issue on this team is the dead weight on the roster & the overall lack of talent.
You mean 39 year old Malkin and 38 year old Crosby, and a 38 year old Letang who average 69/82 games for the last 6 years, combined with shit goaltending from Jarry+ DeSmith who is a C tier Backup goalie...Like every other coach, he needs talent to win. He couldn't even make the playoffs with Cindy & Malkin as his 1-2 punch. We barely have more high end talent than the Pens currently do.
From what I've read, he's going to do what any coach would do & rely on his vets. I'll change my tune if he holds Panarin accountable when he's blindly throwing away pucks. Or stops sending Mika over the boards when he's passing up a shot on a breakaway.
100%The giants weren’t a good enough team to utilize him properly.
I guess I don't know what there is toI have not commented because I really have no comment. Except, I’m not fixing the thread title.
My guess is that Dolan has bought into a larger plan that Drury has presented -- that contract extension doesn't come for no reason... Drury made it clear before the 2024-25 season started that the core of this roster at the time (Trouba and zibanejad in particular) were to be given one more crack. They failed, half of the roster was turned over within 4 months.Drury has coveted Sullivan for years so this really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Sullivan is a good coach, but so was Laviolette. Curious what's going to follow.
I disagree. All of these moves have been planned. Maybe they were done in short notice, but the players were told that they had one last shot to get their shit together. They didn't, and Drury started shipping these guys out.99% of NHL coaches are AI generated copies of each other anyway.
My beef with this move is it being like the 3rd major move since December that tells me this team is directionless.
Really? Did you see Connor "best USA goalie ever" Hellybuck in this year's playoffs?To be honest, the Igor extension was the death knell for me. It was when I realized that Drury has no direction and doesn’t see the team for what it is.
I said it in the beginning of the season and I’ll say it again, this team is closer to needing a rebuild than it is to contending.
I’m more than happy to be wrong about all of this, but I just don’t see it.
10000000%Igor is #1 in GSAA over the 3 years he was in the playoffs.
He's more than doubled up (almost tripled up) Adin Hill who is at #2.
I don't think his numbers really captured how bad he was this year and signing him when they did was stupid but his playoff rep is earned. No one has even come close to doing what he's done in the post season. Those series that he lost were not even close to being on him.
Where's the Proof?I disagree. All of these moves have been planned. Maybe they were done in short notice, but the players were told that they had one last shot to get their shit together. They didn't, and Drury started shipping these guys out.
There is a before and after?This. It's institutionalized, like absorbed into the fibers. They're not gonna change at this point. They will just aim to outlast Sullivan like they outlasted those before him. Sully will age like a president. Check out the pics of Gallant and Lavi when they were hired and fired.
Where's the Proof?