Confirmed with Link: Rangers hire Gallant as HC

[NickyFotiu]

So, I see that we have already turned on Gallant? I thought this would have taken at least another week or two, but hey, HF boards never ceases to amaze.

At least he's not David Quin......ami'right?

I'm not turning on Gallant. He was the kind of player we need. I'm hopeful he is the same type of coach.
As far as Panarin goes he had his ups and downs in Columbus as well. Some games great. Some invisible. He makes some great passes. They are only considered lazy when they get intercepted.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I don't like Strome but I don't hate him. What I do hate is Panarin and Strome together. They get way too out of hand with the east west passing and when teams play playoff hockey, like Calgary did last game, they will eat that up all game long. It's not the first time it has happened to those guys and Gallant needs to shut it down. The only reason they got stuff going is because Calgary let the foot off the pedal because they were destroying us. Strome is not good enough to play that style against a team that plays playoff style hockey. GG has a good track record and seems to be a well respected coach among his players so hopefully he carries enough weight to get them to play simpler hockey when the playoff teams come around, but at the end of the day he might have to separate the two.

Panarin Strome Fox together on the ice are great when teams get lazy and just chase the puck around. Then those east west passes are great.

The Fishsticks, Canes, now Calgary just sit inside the dots and let them tire themselves outside make that crossseam pass then 4 sticks are there to knock it down.

Just because you can saucer over 3 sticks doesn't make it a high percentage play. They are just too stubborn to adapt and it kills them. It's not like they have the McJesus speed that intimidates the other team. They don't have foot speed and have to have the puck move for them in space.

 

[haveandare]

Panarin Strome Fox together on the ice are great when teams get lazy and just chase the puck around. Then those east west passes are great.

The Fishsticks, Canes, now Calgary just sit inside the dots and let them tire themselves outside make that crossseam pass then 4 sticks are there to knock it down.

Just because you can saucer over 3 sticks doesn't make it a high percentage play. They are just too stubborn to adapt and it kills them. It's not like they have the McJesus speed that intimidates the other team. They don't have foot speed and have to have the puck move for them in space.

It comes down to the refrain about TB last year. You need to be able to play different ways. Some teams will give you the room to play like that and hang up 5 or 6 against them. When you can, sure, do it. Other teams won’t let you and when that happens you need to be able to effectively play another kind of game.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

It seems like the honeymoon phase for Gallant is coming to an end.

His pressers aren’t as cordial and he is beginning to criticize the team more publicly.

After a few bad performances I was a little surprised how positive he was after games, but I think he understood this team had a challenging schedule with a lot of real travel to start the season. So he gave them some rope.

But giving up big leads is eating at him and he continues to mention that he wants this team to play more of a “man’s game”.

I think he is realizing he is facing the same challenges that Quinn faced with the core of this team.

He’s got a little faux stash going too. Hoping he will grow that shit out to full grizzly mode and impart that attitude into the team.

I will say this - the Rangers have a lot of skill
in key positions and are finding ways to win, despite failing to play a full 60 and relying on their goaltender too much.

If he can find a way to break this team and get them to buy into a proper, consistent brand of hockey (which will require some stars at the top of the lineup to change their bad habits), and push the right buttons to help accelerate the development of some younger players, we can actually see something special happen here.

We will see how good of a coach he really is, because it won’t be an easy task

 

[Idlerlee]

I'm not that hyped on Gallant, but luckily I'm not the one appointing coaches.

I look forward to the return of this guy

 

[EdJovanovski]

It seems like the honeymoon phase for Gallant is coming to an end.

His pressers aren’t as cordial and he is beginning to criticize the team more publicly.

After a few bad performances I was a little surprised how positive he was after games, but I think he understood this team had a challenging schedule with a lot of real travel to start the season. So he gave them some rope.

But giving up big leads is eating at him and he continues to mention that he wants this team to play more of a “man’s game”.

I think he is realizing he is facing the same challenges that Quinn faced with the core of this team.

He’s got a little faux stash going too. Hoping he will grow that shit out to full grizzly mode and impart that attitude into the team.

I will say this - the Rangers have a lot of skill
in key positions and are finding ways to win, despite failing to play a full 60 and relying on their goaltender too much.

If he can find a way to break this team and get them to buy into a proper, consistent brand of hockey (which will require some stars at the top of the lineup to change their bad habits), and push the right buttons to help accelerate the development of some younger players, we can actually see something special happen here.

We will see how good of a coach he really is, because it won’t be an easy task

If our record is like this without Gallant having a mustache, I can only imagine how good we’ll be when he’s got a huge one!

 

[Chimpradamus]

I'm not that hyped on Gallant, but luckily I'm not the one appointing coaches.

I look forward to the return of this guy

 

[haveandare]

Imo if he can’t get the core guys to play a tighter more disciplined game it’s time to ship some core guys out because they’re not capable of what they need to do. The rookie over-analyzer coach didn’t get them to buy in, if the vet more hands off coach with a solid track record also can’t get them to buy in, it’s on them imo.

Having said that, they’re banking points playing mostly like crap, and the season is still very young. If Gallant can get them to play a harder more consistent game before too too long they can still have an excellent season

 

[Idlerlee]

Imo if he can’t get the core guys to play a tighter more disciplined game it’s time to ship some core guys out because they’re not capable of what they need to do. The rookie over-analyzer coach didn’t get them to buy in, if the vet more hands off coach with a solid track record also can’t get them to buy in, it’s on them imo.

Having said that, they’re banking points playing mostly like crap, and the season is still very young. If Gallant can get them to play a harder more consistent game before too too long they can still have an excellent season

Maybe he needs to instill more of a sense of desperation and pride in them. There are a lot of skaters who seemingly could put more of a shift in. That's on them, but maybe its time for a heavier hand to instill that fear of god in them if thats whats needed.

 

[Rempe73]

Gallant was motivated against his old team maybe? And got the players to have his back? Which is great.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Imo if he can’t get the core guys to play a tighter more disciplined game it’s time to ship some core guys out because they’re not capable of what they need to do. The rookie over-analyzer coach didn’t get them to buy in, if the vet more hands off coach with a solid track record also can’t get them to buy in, it’s on them imo.

Having said that, they’re banking points playing mostly like crap, and the season is still very young. If Gallant can get them to play a harder more consistent game before too too long they can still have an excellent season

I agree on the former, but that's on Drury, not GG.

He brought in a tougher set of players to play a more gritty game (would've been nice to see some of that "grit" show up after Igor was relentlessly pushed around last night, but thats a different story) to compliment the top of the lineup, but for this team to go anywhere its all about those star players buying into the type of game Gallant is trying to set them up with. And consistently. And leading the youngens down the right path instead of showing them its ok to carry bad habits.

I agree on the latter. When this team is going they can be a scary opponent. They have a lot of balance and their lineup is well rounded and skilled enough in the right places to make some noise.

But I have to point at Panarin. He is the game driver offensively and while you want him to be creative out there he is on a top line getting important minutes. Each of the top 6 players will have to carry the responsibility and while I think a majority of them can (I am including Strome believe it or not) I am the least bit convinced that Bread will.

Getting Bread to buy in will be Gallant's biggest challenge as a coach. If he can crack that nut and also find a way to accelerate Laf and Kakkos output the Rangers will be a very tough team to beat.

 

[mulli25]

David Quinn's stock rises every time these guys take the ice.

 

[bouds]

I said it before we dumped Quinn, I’m not here to second guess, but talent and development are our real issues. Coaching can only do so much. We’ll see how it goes, but I don’t put too much stock in who our coach is, sure they can tip the scale a bit, but it’s a marginal issue, and we are pretty far from where we need to be to have any coach make an impact.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

David Quinn's stock rises every time these guys take the ice.

What has David Quinn done to say that? It's not like AV who accomplished a lot but wore out his welcome. The team isn't playing great but this is the best start they've had in years.

 

[OldBlueshirt]

[QUOTE="I think he is realizing he is facing the same challenges that Quinn faced with the core of this team.[/QUOTE]
Strome said last spring how they don't need to be told how to play and that they'll figure it out. Basically an FU to Quinn. I'm concerned they'll sign Strome just to appease Panerin but then we'll further dig in with the East West crap.

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

It seems like the honeymoon phase for Gallant is coming to an end.

His pressers aren’t as cordial and he is beginning to criticize the team more publicly.

After a few bad performances I was a little surprised how positive he was after games, but I think he understood this team had a challenging schedule with a lot of real travel to start the season. So he gave them some rope.

But giving up big leads is eating at him and he continues to mention that he wants this team to play more of a “man’s game”.

I think he is realizing he is facing the same challenges that Quinn faced with the core of this team.

He’s got a little faux stash going too. Hoping he will grow that shit out to full grizzly mode and impart that attitude into the team.

I will say this - the Rangers have a lot of skill
in key positions and are finding ways to win, despite failing to play a full 60 and relying on their goaltender too much.

If he can find a way to break this team and get them to buy into a proper, consistent brand of hockey (which will require some stars at the top of the lineup to change their bad habits), and push the right buttons to help accelerate the development of some younger players, we can actually see something special happen here.

We will see how good of a coach he really is, because it won’t be an easy task

I think he has been fine as a HC. He clearly recognizes the issues going on.

I think this is coming down to an identity. Its more on Drury than Gallant.

They may have to make some tough decisions with Panarin if he can't function in a forechecking system.

Same goes Zibby but they are in a worse spot with him. Long term contract for a guy who shys away from physical contact and tends to float.

You either bring a more physical presence to his line or figure out a way to move him(good luck).

There is issues here that go beyond the HC. The big stuff though are Kakko and Laf who are putting in the effort(as far as I can see). They gotta take the next step at some point.

 

[SA16]

I think he has been fine as a HC. He clearly recognizes the issues going on.

I think this is coming down to an identity. Its more on Drury than Gallant.

They may have to make some tough decisions with Panarin if he can't function in a forechecking system.

Same goes Zibby but they are in a worse spot with him. Long term contract for a guy who shys away from physical contact and tends to float.

You either bring a more physical presence to his line or figure out a way to move him(good luck).

There is issues here that go beyond the HC. The big stuff though are Kakko and Laf who are putting in the effort(as far as I can see). They gotta take the next step at some point.

Panarin has 13 points in 13 games in this system. That is is basically the same level of production he had prior to becoming a Ranger. He hasn't been scoring at 5v5 but 1) the PP counts 2) I am pretty sure his line will not shoot 4.5% all year and 3) It's 13 games.

 

[tomobson]

Panarin has 13 points in 13 games in this system. That is is basically the same level of production he had prior to becoming a Ranger. He hasn't been scoring at 5v5 but 1) the PP counts 2) I am pretty sure his line will not shoot 4.5% all year and 3) It's 13 games.

That means that line will actually have to start shooting.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I dunno. I see a bunch of laziness myself. He skates kind of hard but isn’t engaged very strongly at all and those awful turnovers are the epitome of laziness to me.

Even if it isn't laziness, he's made a bunch of dumb plays and he's been super selfish at other times. The marathon shifts have to stop.

He's certainly still physically capable of doing some crazy shit, it's been there in spurts this year. He needs to pull his head out of his ass though, we need him to be more than a good PP specialist.

 

[SA16]

That means that line will actually have to start shooting.

Last year when Panarin/Strome were on the ice together the team averaged 10.44 shot attempts/game. This year when they are on the ice together the team is averaging 10.33 shot attempts/game. You can discern the difference of 0.11 shots/game?

 

[tomobson]

Last year when Panarin/Strome were on the ice together the team averaged 10.44 shot attempts/game. This year when they are on the ice together the team is averaging 10.33 shot attempts/game. You can discern the difference of 0.11 shots/game?

It definitely seems noticeable this season. Being the worst 5v5 line on the team probably makes it easier to see their deficiencies. The fact they've never shot much compared to the top lines around the league is true. I think we've seen the best that the Panarin and Strome combo have to offer, and it's not enough in crunch time. Time to give something else a try.

 

[Thirty One]

So, I see that we have already turned on Gallant? I thought this would have taken at least another week or two, but hey, HF boards never ceases to amaze.

At least he's not David Quin......ami'right?

One of the amazing things is that Gallant is getting blasted for playing Kakko with Panarin, which was one of the things Quinn was blasted for not doing.

It's almost as if we collectively don't have a clue?

 

[RagFinMet]

Pan has the points but also has the turnovers
Him and strome are round pegs to Gallant's square hole
Gallant im sure would rather have Lindholm Tkachuk than Pan Stro
As would I!
These r the kinda players GG needs
So the question is
Why we sign a coach that doesn't fit our top six players?
Imagine pan stro on florida with that system
That would be their perfect fit
So we need to tweak the system to fit our players or find a way to ship these guys out
Im hoping they have a meeting and work out some compromise between getting the players to buy in and also at times having the freedom to be creative
Good luck..

 

[CLW]

One of the amazing things is that Gallant is getting blasted for playing Kakko with Panarin, which was one of the things Quinn was blasted for not doing.

It's almost as if we collectively don't have a clue?

Really? I remember discussions about Kakko not fitting on Panarin's line because both want the puck and are playmakers at heart. So people were saying the opposite.

 

[CLW]

Pan has the points but also has the turnovers
Him and strome are round pegs to Gallant's square hole
Gallant im sure would rather have Lindholm Tkachuk than Pan Stro
As would I!
These r the kinda players GG needs
So the question is
Why we sign a coach that doesn't fit our top six players?
Imagine pan stro on florida with that system
That would be their perfect fit
So we need to tweak the system to fit our players or find a way to ship these guys out
Im hoping they have a meeting and work out some compromise between getting the players to buy in and also at times having the freedom to be creative
Good luck..

I agree with a lot of this. It's as if management in it's heart of hearts want to play a Boston/Pitts/Calgary style of grindy, gritty game but at the same time have invested a lot of time and resources in having stars that play a wide open run and gun style of hockey, currently Florida style. This contradiction has to be sorted out at management level too. This start and stop, giving gas and hitting the breaks simultaneously situation is absurd. Which vision is in charge?