Proposal: Ranger & Habs

[SML2]

I don't think Poehling/Ylonen have a lot of value around the league right now. And it sounds like the Rangers are looking for top6 NHL players according to Dreger.

Habs have a lot of top 6 winger depth, but not sure they'd be willing to move one of them right now before we see how they all work together.

So if Kravtsov can't crack the Rangers top 6, Dreger thinks they will get a player who can in exchange for him? Who would do that? They would be better off trying to convince Kreider to move and putting Kravtsov in the top 6. He's not moving past Panarin, Laf or Kakko.

 

[malcb33]

So if Kravtsov can't crack the Rangers top 6, Dreger thinks they will get a player who can in exchange for him? Who would do that? They would be better off trying to convince Kreider to move and putting Kravtsov in the top 6. He's not moving past Panarin, Laf or Kakko.

Exactly. The Rangers can want a top6 player in return, but that doesn’t mean they will get a quality one in return. IMO a middle 6 guy like Armia would be a solid return for a unproven but high potential player like Kravtsov.

I don’t think Armia would be available because he just resigned and unless the season continues to go south for Montreal, it’s not a great fit either.

 

[bernmeister]

So if Kravtsov can't crack the Rangers top 6, Dreger thinks they will get a player who can in exchange for him? Who would do that? They would be better off trying to convince Kreider to move and putting Kravtsov in the top 6. He's not moving past Panarin, Laf or Kakko.

Pls stop w/the panic/instant gratification moves

yes, if a good enuf offer is on the table, pull the trigger
but
absent that

Strome is not part of this team long term
like Buch we can't afford him and have $ for fox + kids
that overrides other considerations

Rosters have to settle
then deal Strome = open F slot
just shut up everybody and play K w/higher end guys to show he can cut it at a high level
then respond to decent offers, and move on.

 

[Qwijibo]

Pls stop w/the panic/instant gratification moves

yes, if a good enuf offer is on the table, pull the trigger
but
absent that

Strome is not part of this team long term
like Buch we can't afford him and have $ for fox + kids
that overrides other considerations

Rosters have to settle
then deal Strome = open F slot
just shut up everybody and play K w/higher end guys to show he can cut it at a high level
then respond to decent offers, and move on.

Considering his agent has permission to talk to teams to try to make a trade I don’t think the Rangers are necessarily taking a “wait and see” stance. If they’re offered value got him now they’ll move him. And I doubt it’s going to take an overpayment

 

[Eggtimer]

Rangers want a top 6 forward for Kratzov?
The same player they just sent down to the AHL and demanded a trade ?
Ya , I want my Devils to trade Boqvist for a first line 30g winger but that’ll be as likely as what the Rangers are looking in trade value

 

[Eggtimer]

led his khl team in goals at age 20

Neat ! Do those convert into goals in the NHL or ?

 

[bernmeister]

Considering his agent has permission to talk to teams to try to make a trade I don’t think the Rangers are necessarily taking a “wait and see” stance. If they’re offered value got him now they’ll move him. And I doubt it’s going to take an overpayment

Yes.
IF IF IF
they are offered ENOUGH value

and agree it doesn't have to be overpayment
just adequate

of course, if they listen to me and get him on NYR and he is producing, his value may THEN go up commensurately

 

[bernmeister]

hope to have something at some pt tom.

til then peeps

sorry to report had a couple of iideas but not doable b'c Habs have zero cap.

 

[SlafCaufield]

poehling has equal value to Kravtsov so why are we adding armia?

 

[Machinehead]

Yeah, adding Armia really hurts the value for Montreal and tbh, just because of how the team is constructed, I'm not sure what the Rangers would even do with him.

He's just snagging the deal for no reason.

 

[Barnaby]

Rangers want a top 6 forward for Kratzov?
The same player they just sent down to the AHL and demanded a trade ?
Ya , I want my Devils to trade Boqvist for a first line 30g winger but that’ll be as likely as what the Rangers are looking in trade value

They project Kravstov as a top 6 player. If they deal him then they want someone who also is projected as a top 6 player. If they don’t get something in that neighborhood then they’ll just sit on him for the time being. What’s so complicated here? No one is realistically expecting them to deal Kravstov straight up for a high end young NHLer.

 

[Mrfenn92]

sorry to report had a couple of iideas but not doable b'c Habs have zero cap.

You quoted yourself

 

[izzy]

Neat ! Do those convert into goals in the NHL or ?

interesting way to evaluate prospects

 

[bernmeister]

You quoted yourself

so?
you begrudge me that I did that b'c it was faster than typing all the from scratch in a new post?

 

[Mrfenn92]

so?
you begrudge me that I did that b'c it was faster than typing all the from scratch in a new post?

I was just letting you know that you were replying to yourself that’s all

 

[Yorkshire Leaf]

Neat ! Do those convert into goals in the NHL or ?

There is a mathematical formula:

KHL Goals x (30/Age of player) + Size of teams fan base quotient + Original 6 team bonus.

Therefore his 20 KHL goals = 37.26 NHL goals, guaranteed.

 

[TGWL]

Rangers want a top 6 forward for Kratzov?
The same player they just sent down to the AHL and demanded a trade ?
Ya , I want my Devils to trade Boqvist for a first line 30g winger but that’ll be as likely as what the Rangers are looking in trade value

I think it's more top 6 potential. Not a current top 6 F.

 

[NYR425]

Rangers want a top 6 forward for Kratzov?
The same player they just sent down to the AHL and demanded a trade ?
Ya , I want my Devils to trade Boqvist for a first line 30g winger but that’ll be as likely as what the Rangers are looking in trade value

The quote from Dreger was "Rangers are looking for a forward with top 6 "POTENTIAL" as a return for Kravtsov." that is a very important word you left out. You see by leaving one word out, you change the whole context of what was said!!