Confirmed with Link: Rakell to re-sign with the Penguins (6 years, $5 million AAV)

Stepping back from the mania of free agency, this feels like an overpay at least in years.

Just looking back to his Anaheim career after 2017-2018...not that inspiring. I like him as a player and wanted him back, but I don't think someone else would have thrown $30M at him.

Who cares about the years overpay? We're gonna suck in 3 years anyway.

Someone above me hit the nail- he's got Chemistry with both our top centers. Considering the wingers we've cycled through, that's got a ton of value on this team.
 
I mean, Gretzky himself wouldn’t have inspired on those Ducks teams.
He sure inspired this Ducks team

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Who cares about the years overpay? We're gonna suck in 3 years anyway.

Someone above me hit the nail- he's got Chemistry with both our top centers. Considering the wingers we've cycled through, that's got a ton of value on this team.

Off of a very small sample size.

Even if we suck I want good contracts or no contracts (so we can be bribed to be a cap floor team).

I'm not excessively worried about it but figured since the thread got bumped may as well weigh in. He did a good job securing the bag.
 
Off of a very small sample size.

Even if we suck I want good contracts or no contracts (so we can be bribed to be a cap floor team).

I'm not excessively worried about it but figured since the thread got bumped may as well weigh in. He did a good job securing the bag.
The salary cap will probably take a really sizable jump up in 3 or 4 years time. The only reason the cap is flat lately is the players have to "pay back" their share or the revenue loss from COVID.

Five years from now a 5MM cap hit will feel more like a 4MM cap hit today.
 
Yea, everyone finds their game at 30. I know Dupuis did, but that’s unusual.
As a dude in his 30's I take offense to this clear ageism. Seriously though, he just turned 29. If he was Jeff Carter age sure I hear you but he's nowhere close. 29 is peak hockey years for most skill players. I have a good feeling about Rakell, and for Sleepy to pay market value I think the org does too.
 
I've worried he'll be another Zucker too - hot start, subpar continuation - and I also don't like what we paid for him. Can live with it, but don't like it.

But what was the alternative? Any guy can go sour, particularly if they have Zucker's luck. We needed another top six forward. He got the price we'd have paid for such a guy in UFA unless we'd waited and waited and won the "underpay Niederreiter" lotto. The team could have targeted cap casualties but all the cap casualties I like came from our division and wouldn't have been offered here.

I'd say it's a good rule of thumb that teams pretty much never want to be in the position where they're doing this contract for this player. They want a steady stream of undercosted RFAs who they wave goodbye to when they hit this period of their career unless they bring something unique or are willing to take big discounts. We don't have those RFAs though.

So now to hope it works and the team can have enough RFAs and wriggle out of enough cap next season to chase some serious mofos.
 
If it wasn't for Captain Elbow, I doubt anyone would really have much concern.

The biggest concern to me is that he's shoehorned away from Sid even though he's shown he plays great like him. So in that respect, I could see him being Zucker2.0. Cemented on a line with Geno and Zucker1.0.
 
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I've worried he'll be another Zucker too - hot start, subpar continuation - and I also don't like what we paid for him. Can live with it, but don't like it.

But what was the alternative? Any guy can go sour, particularly if they have Zucker's luck. We needed another top six forward. He got the price we'd have paid for such a guy in UFA unless we'd waited and waited and won the "underpay Niederreiter" lotto. The team could have targeted cap casualties but all the cap casualties I like came from our division and wouldn't have been offered here.

I'd say it's a good rule of thumb that teams pretty much never want to be in the position where they're doing this contract for this player. They want a steady stream of undercosted RFAs who they wave goodbye to when they hit this period of their career unless they bring something unique or are willing to take big discounts. We don't have those RFAs though.

So now to hope it works and the team can have enough RFAs and wriggle out of enough cap next season to chase some serious mofos.
I’m just worried about that concussion he sustained against the Rags being a problem going forward.

Rakell looked like a ghost in game 7. Hopefully the summer off let’s him fully recover.
 
If it wasn't for Captain Elbow, I doubt anyone would really have much concern.

The biggest concern to me is that he's shoehorned away from Sid even though he's shown he plays great like him. So in that respect, I could see him being Zucker2.0. Cemented on a line with Geno and Zucker1.0.
Injuries will happen so I imagine he will get time with both eventually.

I'd be interested in a Rakell-Crosby-Rust line and then Guentzel-Malkin-Zuck/Hein/Kappy
 
Injuries will happen so I imagine he will get time with both eventually.

I'd be interested in a Rakell-Crosby-Rust line and then Guentzel-Malkin-Zuck/Hein/Kappy
Jake and Sid are never going to be separated, but since camp and pre-season is the time to screw around with things. I'd actually like to see a Zucker-Sid-Rakell line with GMR. In theory, it could work. In theory.
 
Jake and Sid are never going to be separated, but since camp and pre-season is the time to screw around with things. I'd actually like to see a Zucker-Sid-Rakell line with GMR. In theory, it could work. In theory.
What if Jake got hurt?
 
It's true, I know a guy who got a concussion once that destroyed his brain so much he started posting here. The doctors said shooting him like a horse would be the humane thing to do, but then he got an account.
 
Jake and Sid are never going to be separated, but since camp and pre-season is the time to screw around with things. I'd actually like to see a Zucker-Sid-Rakell line with GMR. In theory, it could work. In theory.
Between Sid's preference and Sullivan, this is never happening. But I think it's absolutely something we should be trying. But back to reality, I am just hoping they do Rakell and Heinen with Geno, and then let Zucker/Carter/Kapanen do what they are going to do in sheltered and limited TOI. What an awful line defensively, you'd just have to shelter them heavily.
 
It's true, I know a guy who got a concussion once that destroyed his brain so much he started posting here. The doctors said shooting him like a horse would be the humane thing to do, but then he got an account.

I can count to potato
 
What’s his price ? 50% retained

Must be pretty steep

At that point I’m thinking there would have to be some extension agreement, price would be too high where no would want to pay for a “rental”

would you guys want to use a retention slot on him ?
 
What’s his price ? 50% retained

Must be pretty steep

At that point I’m thinking there would have to be some extension agreement, price would be too high where no would want to pay for a “rental”

would you guys want to use a retention slot on him ?

Given his term and likely value I'd be shocked if a retention slot was used here. His value is already magnified by the increased cap and won't need a sweetener to move for a pretty hefty price.

The question is more if someone panics and offers something Dubas can't refuse before this deadline.
 
What’s his price ? 50% retained

Must be pretty steep

At that point I’m thinking there would have to be some extension agreement, price would be too high where no would want to pay for a “rental”

would you guys want to use a retention slot on him ?
A young up and coming prospect who has impact forward potential.
 
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Oh okay 3 years left, not 2. Yeah you guys will play the waiting game and benefit greatly once GM’s start panicking
 
Who cares about the years overpay? We're gonna suck in 3 years anyway.

Someone above me hit the nail- he's got Chemistry with both our top centers. Considering the wingers we've cycled through, that's got a ton of value on this team.

Looks like I was off by my sucking prediction by a year or so
 

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