News Article: Rachel Doerrie has left the Canucks

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rypper

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fan deffo isn’t lee

fan isn’t quote replying everyone at 3am and saying he’s personally scarred

He keeps his replies to a minimum as well. You haven't truly experienced twitter until you've woken up to find Lee has replied 8+ times to an inocouous comment you randomly tweeted in conversation he was tagged in.

Also FAN isn't asking why everyone isn't using their real names and real pictures constantly.
 
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Transcribed portion regarding JTM:
Okay, I'm going to be careful with how I say this because I don't know how much is out there versus how much I know. What I can tell you is this: the Canucks were one of the worst teams when it came to COVID violations this year in terms of not following the protocol and I heard from somebody in the dressing room that JTM was the worst offender (like anti-mask that kind of thing) and I've heard that from multiple people - including somebody within the confines of the canucks. I think that JTM coming out and speaking is all fine to do, but if you're not following the protocols behind the scenes, it means nothing. I think there was a huge disconnect there b/w him and management and him and players because they obviously were not thrilled with that behaviour - especially someone like EP who has been super conscious. I wouldn't be surprised if he was traded purely because he can no longer be in that dressing room anymore. Your team has a massive COVID outbreak and you're still not being COVID conscious - what are you doing?

There was a lot of smoke at the time from the company men like iMac and Hirsch basically going @ JT which I have always assumed as being indirectly corroborative of this report. The obvious whining and pouting all over the ice the first half of that season was also probably a part of the company men going on about JT. I like to think it is a mix.

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Here's the portion on Luke Hughes, because apparently that's a big deal:
Here are some names I would avoid: Luke hughes being premier top of that list. I have done quite a bit of character recon and injury recon and I have not heard a single person say a good thing (who isn't related to him or has something to gain).
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What I'm hearing about Luke Hughes is worse than I heard about Ryan Merkley. The difference here is that Luke Hughes won't fall that far because of his dad and his name. He is being propped up on his name. There are fears that Luke's ACL injury could impact his mobility and his skating is his strongest asset. If he doesn't have mobility and agility, he does not think the game well enough to end up on a top pair - he just doesn't.

Again, to MS point yesterday - she stands no gain from making up shit. Within both reports, she says she heard things from multiple sources. These aren't shitty Sekeres media reports.

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It is funny listening to this back how much she made fun of Jimbo and John.

She's a fan of Braden Schneider though. That might be something if they do decide to deal with NYR. Though I usually just defer to whatever @MS and @thefeebster say about prospects until i see them play. Maybe @Bad Goalie has an opinion

Huh, there's another tidbit here I totally forgot about:
I know almost nothing about the Geoff Courtnall situation other than the fact that he was due to be hired I believe a few years ago and Jim and John said "NOPE!" and Francesco capitulated to that because everything I know is that the other Aquilini brothers want Benning gone and Francesco is winning the war right now.
 
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Lmfao, this is the best part for the people who know Tej. No wonder he was so f***ing salty on twitter today.

In regards to the fans in Vancouver being smart:
Absolutely a 100% without a doubt. There aren't Neanderthals running around. There are a few on twitter who are absolutely batshit crazy and I think everyone knows who I'm talking about - starts with a T, ends with a J (tej). Yes, you have some absolute loonballs who have absolutely no idea. The Canucks have one of the smartest, most in-tune fanbases in the NHL. Look at canucksarmy, you have three or four people working in NHL front offices who came from that site. You clearly can't be stupid. Vancouver is very in tune.

She referenced Canucksarmy and their graduates in the NHL finding a bunch of really good players in FLA like marchessault, verhaeghe, everyone else for less than the price of one Tyler Myers earlier.
 
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Why would Doerrie need to say she's going to learn to choose her words more carefully if she is just passing on information she's being fed by people she feels are ITK? ...

I hadn't noticed that comment from Doerrie, but a comment from her that she has to choose her words more carefully it would be more logical to connect that to cutting opinions such as her comment about Benning pasting macaroni and paper than news items.
 
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It's been a while since I've listened to it, might have to go back and do that at some point, but if that's all she said about Luke Hughes wow. The amount of uproar with words like character assassination, what would Quinn think etc. (Moreso on Twitter then here.)

Comparing him to Ryan Merkley, who had his warts ok but that's purposefully left vague.
 

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It's been a while since I've listened to it, might have to go back and do that at some point, but if that's all she said about Luke Hughes wow. The amount of uproar with words like character assassination, what would Quinn think etc. (Moreso on Twitter then here.)

Comparing him to Ryan Merkley, who had his warts ok but that's purposefully left vague.
I had a feeling people were just talking bullshit, and it turns out, unsurprisingly, they were. Nothing she is saying here is ridiculous.

To be honest, the most interesting thing is the amount of times she has made comments referring to the Aquilini meddling ownership. Which again, isn’t surprising.

it’s a good thing when you think about it because she’s turned down other opportunities and said she was really picky about her next destination. She must have some faith that Aqua is not going to be meddling.

Everything about this hiring gives good vibes. She’s incredibly smart. I personally like the fact that she didn’t spend the last few years kissing ass and not trying to hurt people’s feelings. Instead, she just called it as she saw it.
 
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Pretty much. So many guys are too fragile to grow up.

It’s quite striking how upsetting some people still find the idea of women in the workplace.

Attitudes like yours are the problem. I'm happy with this hire, but there are a few question marks given her history.

It's quite striking how some people find the idea of women in the workplace so exciting they'll automatically disregard any criticism as being gender based. At least you had your little moment to demonstrate how progressive you are for the board.
 
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Anyone looking for a signal that we're making a clean break with the prior regime, this is it in spades. A vocal critic of Jim Benning who cut her teeth helping her dad win hockey pools as a pre-teen with the drive to land opportunities with the Leafs and Devils at a precocious age and an analytics person to boot? Sign me up.

As for her past indiscretions. She probably does have sources who fed her half baked rumors. Naive of her to spout off on them in a podcast. But what she was saying about Benning, that's just shooting the shit and taking pot shots at an obviously dysfunctional organization because it's an entertaining thing to talk about. Has the same appeal as reading reviews of truly awful movies. Yeah, they're mean spirited, but it doesn't make it any less true.
 

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She's 25 and has already been in the business seven years? Pretty impressive resume.
I think I was still playing beer pong. :laugh:

ok so born in jan of 1996, as per elite prospects

i’m not an analytics director but if my math is correct, and assuming that she was hired in the summers before the season, she had a job in the OHL at 18, NHL at 20, and i had no idea york had a hockey team but she a job at a university with a director title at age 22. when did she have time to even go to university herself?

maybe a doogie situation?
 
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To be honest, the most interesting thing is the amount of times she has made comments referring to the Aquilini meddling ownership. Which again, isn’t surprising.

it’s a good thing when you think about it because she’s turned down other opportunities and said she was really picky about her next destination. She must have some faith that Aqua is not going to be meddling.

envisioning this scenario gave me all the feels
 

vadim sharifijanov

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Okay, lady. Woman. Broad was a bad remark, I know. But the rest still stands. I find it odd fans are cheering on an analytics hire as if your current analytics department isn’t apart of the failures. Nothing is going to change lol

i’m not sure i follow

are you suggesting that it’s a bad idea to add new voices to an analytics dept that you say has failed in the past?

or are you suggesting that having an analytics dept in the first place is bad practice?
 
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Seems very intelligent. So she already has a leg on the past regime. Have to imagine it’s been about twice as hard for her to make it to where she has gotten to than it would be for any dude.

Can see just yesterday after she was hired the kind of trash people say.

I for one am happy to cheer for a progressive team, truth is the way the Canucks have been doing it hasn’t worked for a long time. Change is good.
 

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ok so born in jan of 1996, as per elite prospects

i’m not an analytics director but if my math is correct, and assuming that she was hired in the summers before the season, she had a job in the OHL at 18, NHL at 20, and i had no idea york had a hockey team but she a job at a university with a director title at age 22. when did she have time to even go to university herself?

maybe a doogie situation?

In an interview, she discloses that she skipped a grade and finished her undergrad degree in 3 years rather than 4. Worked with the Sudbury Wolves while in college at Laurentian. Straight out of college to the Devils. Her position at York University coincides with her doing a Master's there while also working at BMO.

Definitely precocious, but also wears multiple hats at a time except for when she was with NJD, which was more a full-time gig.
 

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Definitely precocious, but also wears multiple hats at a time except for when she was with NJD, which was more a full-time gig.

ability to multitask

even just asking her to teach that ability to others in the org might have come in handy 2014-2020

ok jim, so this teenage girl is here to tell you you can chew gum while you walk, you don’t have to stop every time you want to chew
 

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Okay, lady. Woman. Broad was a bad remark, I know. But the rest still stands. I find it odd fans are cheering on an analytics hire as if your current analytics department isn’t apart of the failures. Nothing is going to change lol

Who are you, again?
 
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For me, I think she's qualified. Resume wise, she's more qualified than Biech was. Biech's video work was just more available for all of us to see. Personally, I don't even think a "female perspective" is relevant here. Analytics and numbers should be analytics and numbers.

Personally, I don't think expressing concerns over her past comments is somehow misogynistic. With Biech, we know that he's a Canucks fan so whatever he said about management in the past, he took the job and scrubbed his twitter account. With Doerrie, two of her most controversial comments relates to Petey and Hughes' brother. That shines a spotlight on the veracity of her comments.
They are adults, if they have issues with each other they can hash it out like adults. We don’t need to exclude people in our hiring because of opinions they have expressed (unless it crosses like a line, which I don’t she has).
 

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Every time I expose your poor logic you appeal to Jesus. Appealing to Jesus doesn't help your bizarre faith in reporters/media personalities man. I'm guessing you believe everything that Tucker Carlson says as well? Because making stuff up doesn't happen you said.

Using your arguments, why the f*** would Hughes say he has no idea where that reporting came from and deny that he was given an IV? Everyone around him was talking about how scary Covid was and what they went through. Hughes talked about how his lungs were burning after playing. Why the f*** would Bieksa specifically criticize Sekeres' reporting as a false report? Bieksa is now part of the media and is putting HIS reputation on the line as well. Your constant defense of Sekeres is just laughable. Why don't you tell the truth about your relationship with Sekeres here? You can guarantee what Sekeres did?

It's hilarious that you're now backtracking and claiming that Sekeres may have mixed things up. So what is it? If Sekeres made a mistake, he should own up to it. But he didn't. He is the only person reporting on it when he said that there are reports. Where are the other reports except those who reported on what he said? And it has been disproven unless you're calling Hughes a liar.

The fact that Hughes came back strong AND strongly denied being on IV makes me believe him. Sekeres on the other hand? He made shit up. If he didn't, then he made a mistake that he stubbornly and stupidly refused to retract or correct. Given how open the Canucks players were about their struggles with COVID, I think it takes a very gullible person to defend Sekeres over believing Hughes.

What on earth.

Again, this isn't some sort of polar dichotomy where a) Hughes was on an IV or b) Sekeres is making up stories that are total lies.

There was a Canuck on an IV (Sutter). *BY FAR* the most likely explanation is that Sekeres' source got the name of the Canuck on the IV wrong and that he ran with it too quickly without vetting.

The notion that he would just invent that story - about someone he sees on a regular basis and which would be easily denied/disproven if not true, making him look bad and not credible - is nonsense. And makes no sense at all. He ran that story because he believed it was true. Guaranteed. But he's a bad reporter who reported bad information.
 
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Attitudes like yours are the problem. I'm happy with this hire, but there are a few question marks given her history.

It's quite striking how some people find the idea of women in the workplace so exciting they'll automatically disregard any criticism as being gender based. At least you had your little moment to demonstrate how progressive you are for the board.
Lol
 

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It's been a while since I've listened to it, might have to go back and do that at some point, but if that's all she said about Luke Hughes wow. The amount of uproar with words like character assassination, what would Quinn think etc. (Moreso on Twitter then here.)

Comparing him to Ryan Merkley, who had his warts ok but that's purposefully left vague.

Her comment about Luke was pretty striking though. The one I heard she starts off saying Luke is like #1 on her do not draft list (I take that to mean among the top prospects and not the entire draft). That is fine. Usually that is followed by reasons whether that is skills based or worst interview ever, bad body language, yells at his teammates etc. Her comments about Luke is only vague because she doesn't dive into any of that. She didn't say she talked to a former teammate or a former coach who wants to remain anonymous etc. Not even a "I know a guy who went to high school with him..."

I think her wording afterwards (and I paraphrase) was that she did a "character and injury" recon and the only ones that had something good to say were people close to him and people who have something gained from it.

That's as close to saying that the guy is a piece of sh**, his injury is serious, and anybody who says otherwise are his friends and family or have something to gain from it. I'm all for strong opinions but this is shock jock territory.
 
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