GDT: r2g2

[User13452]

I’d be tempted to go 11 and 7 if I was Rod doubt he will but Roslovic and Jost don’t excite me

 

[MinJaBen]

Quite frankly, it's a bad look for Dundon and his Management that they can't get FDSouth to offer one for the Canes too (even if it cost Dundon some $$$$)

I think you are mistaking who is at fault for the lack of a broadcast. It is probably not that Dundon "can't get FDSouth to offer one", it is that Dundon has likely said he won't pay for one.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Is there no FanDuel coverage of round 2? I thought last year they got to do the first 2 rounds.

Three years ago, they did a recap show of the Round 2 games, but never actually showed the games. Last year and this year, they haven't done anything. Both ESPN and TNT have owned the broadcasting rights for Round 2 onwards for a couple years now

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I think you are mistaking who is at fault for the lack of a broadcast. It is probably not that Dundon "can't get FDSouth to offer one", it is that Dundon has likely said he won't pay for one.

Actually, it's more that the last time they did one, the ratings didn't justify the production of the shows

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The entire playoffs were non-exclusive through 1994.

The NHL then gave full 2nd round exclusivity to Comcast in the early 10s.

Full 1st round exclusivity is probably coming. The NBA’s latest deal ended local playoff broadcasts.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Actually, it's more that the last time they did one, the ratings didn't justify the production of the shows

If so, I put the broadcast of those shows in the category of something you do as a cost of business in running a franchise.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

If so, I put the broadcast of those shows in the category of something you do as a cost of business in running a franchise.

Maybe, but until that happens, you're asking a company that literally filed for bankruptcy last year to put on a production that we already have evidence of not justifying the cost of putting on. Don't blame FanDuel or Dundon in that case. That's on the viewers

 

[Tryamw]

Maybe, but until that happens, you're asking a company that literally filed for bankruptcy last year to put on a production that we already have evidence of not justifying the cost of putting on. Don't blame FanDuel or Dundon in that case. That's on the viewers

My fault + many others

 

[Borsig]

I mean if I am being honest, I would rather watch the next game on tap. I like watching the other teams, especially after we have won a game and the stress level is down a bit. I just wish they didnt start at f***ing 10 pm. I passed out after nino's goal last night and missed the best part of the stars game.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

My fault + many others

Yeah, if not for those terrible viewers, we could do shows for as long as the Canes are in it. And more importantly, I'll get paychecks late into the playoffs instead of just after one round. Y'all have seen the economy. Throw me a bone here!

 

[Tryamw]

Throw me a bone here!

Well I was planning to cook a cut of Country ham. There will be a bone ring

 

[chaz4hockey]

Maybe, but until that happens, you're asking a company that literally filed for bankruptcy last year to put on a production that we already have evidence of not justifying the cost of putting on. Don't blame FanDuel or Dundon in that case. That's on the viewers

I recognize that the tectonic shift in viewer subscription habits + Sinclair's overpayment/heavy use of debt to acquire Fox's Regional sports networks led to their financial challenges.

However, they are on much sounder footing since they used the bankruptcy process to eliminate debt ($9 billion of pre-petition debt to $200 million today) and also back out of situations where future team payments were projected to be highly unprofitable (as an example, the Brewers, Diamondbacks, Guardians, Padres, Reds, Rockies, Twins are not part of Main Street Sports Group & are now part of a new combined MLB offering). I suggest to you that if the Canes were not a profitable proposition for Diamond, now Main Street Sports Group, then the Canes would have been dropped too. Thus, for me given the debt restructuring and the on-going commitment to broadcast the Canes, your financial comment rings hollow.

Anyway,

1) When was the last time the Canes had a pre-and post-game playoff broadcast to measure financial results? Certainly not while the team has been on its high level playoff runs (ie, in 2022 2nd and conf. finals were not broadcast). So, I don't conclude that there is current "evidence" re: a P&L impact.

2) Lack of eyeballs could also mean that the FanDuel team needs to improve their production. I do believe that's an area that needs tweaking.

3) FWIW: with almost all teams broadcasting their pre- and post-games, they clearly they see the value in showcasing their team.....at minimum, it's a brand building event to draw in attendance + broadcast eyeballs in subsequent years. Please note that not everything that is done in business is required to have an immediate payoff.

As I noted, at mimium, broadcasting in the playoffs should be viewed as a cost of doing business by both the broadcaster and the team owner.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

NEC TEMERE, NEC TIMIDE
FAC FORTIA ET PATERE
AD HONOREM, AD HOMINEM
FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT

PRAEMONITUS, PRAEMUNITUS
PER ANGUSTA AD AUGUSTA
PRAEPARATUS
PRAEPARATUS
PRAEPERATUS SUPERVIVET.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Wouldn't mind going 11/7 if BOOM was the option, but i don't see that happening.

 

[User13452]

Looks like Washington is taking out Leonard and putting Raddysh in

 

[Tryamw]

Looks like Washington is taking out Leonard and putting Raddysh in

Ok... not sure that makes a difference to me

 

[Blueline Bomber]

1) When was the last time the Canes had a pre-and post-game playoff broadcast to measure financial results? Certainly not while the team has been on its high level playoff runs (ie, in 2022 2nd and conf. finals were not broadcast). So, I don't conclude that there is current "evidence" re: a P&L impact.

As I said earlier, we did a postgame show after each game in the 2023 2nd round after having broadcast the 1st round. We couldn't broadcast the games themselves (because again, national TV owns the broadcasting rights), but they had Shane, Mike, Tripp, etc go over the highlights of the game, break it down, interviews, etc.

Ratings were terrible, and even though the team went to the ECF, Bally decided not to do the same for the ECF games. And they've not done postgame shows for games they aren't broadcasting since.

 

[Summer Rose]

Why is this picture upside down?

 

[User13452]

Ok... not sure that makes a difference to me

Not a huge difference but he did lead them in shots on goal in the first game and has a hell of a lot more skill and speed then Raddysh does I’m happy with them taking him out

 

[Tryamw]

Why is this picture upside down?

Person was standing upside down taking the photo

 

[Daeavorn]

Well I accidentally cut the tip of my finger off making lunch, so the blood sacrifice has been made

 

[SlavinAway]

Well I accidentally cut the tip of my finger off making lunch, so the blood sacrifice has been made

The Victor Rask curse lives on! But seriously hope you're alright.

 

[chaz4hockey]

fyi.....WRAL will broadcast a post game show at 11:25PM on game nights.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Looks like Washington is taking out Leonard and putting Raddysh in

Raddysh=taller/more mature player....Janky scares them

 

[Tryamw]

Well I accidentally cut the tip of my finger off making lunch, so the blood sacrifice has been made

I've done that before do not recommend.
Put it in place taped and bandaided. Was fine though you can see the scar