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Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VII

When the Canucks are officially eliminated, which may come as early as Wednesday or next weekend, they need to shut Quinn down for the season.

He's given it everything he had, including playing at no more than 70-80 percent for the last month and a half. Nothing to be gained by risking his health further.

He's been the only ray of light in so many gloomy games this year. And paid his dues this season as captain of 'Team Turmoil'.
 
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VanJack said:
When the Canucks are officially eliminated, which may come as early as Wednesday or next weekend, they need to shut Quinn down for the season.

He's given it everything he had, including playing at no more than 70-80 percent for the last month and a half. Nothing to be gained by risking his health further.

He's been the only ray of light in so many gloomy games this year. And paid his dues this season as captain of 'Team Turmoil'.
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Going to say the same...
 
VanJack said:
When the Canucks are officially eliminated, which may come as early as Wednesday or next weekend, they need to shut Quinn down for the season.

He's given it everything he had, including playing at no more than 70-80 percent for the last month and a half. Nothing to be gained by risking his health further.

He's been the only ray of light in so many gloomy games this year. And paid his dues this season as captain of 'Team Turmoil'.
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Agreed. Let the kid rest up and heal. He's stepped up and proven this is his team, what a f***ing gem of a human being.
 
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I suspect that with this miserable season winding down, it can't even fast enough for Quinn Hughes.

Think about it. He's captain of a team that basically came apart at the seems with a dressing-room breakdown between Miller and Pettersson, followed shortly thereafter by Miller taking a leave of absence. And when he returned, the GM and the President basically said the situation was untenable, and one of them had to go.

And as it evolved, it was apparent the guy heading out of town was Miller. But not before Rutherford basically said there was no way they were going to get equivalent value back. And that's basically what happened.

Then Hughes gets hurt with a bad hand and an oblique injury that forced him out for most of February. And of course he missed the Four Nations Tourney altogether. It's just speculation on my part. But with a healthy Quinn Hughes in the lineup, it's the American hoisting the hardware instead of Canada.

Finally he comes back and tries to gut it out down the stretch playing at no more than 70-80 percent, and his team flounders and misses the playoff anyway. And to top it all off, the best coach he says he's ever played for--Rick Tocchet--could still end up leaving town.

On a lot of nights, Hughes was the only reason to even watch this team. But I have fears about one thing. Any more years like this, and he'll be waving good-bye to Vancouver for sure. And who could blame him?
 
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Congrats to our captain for tying our franchise records in points for a defenseman, at only 25 years old too! Hope he sticks around for many years to come!
Feels like he has a legit shot at being the Nucks all time points leader by the time he retires, if he plays here for another 10 seasons or more. As a defenseman! I wonder how many defenseman are franchise points leader?
 
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a number of different conclusions can be drawn here but look at hughes’ usage and how it correlates in the opposite way you’d expect with his health and the strength of the rest of the D

hughes, pre-leaving the lineup:

47 games (missed 4)
14 goals
45 assists
59 pts
+16
25:18 icetime/game
12th in pts (1st among dmen)
8th in pts/game (1st among dmen)
5th in icetime
(soucy fully healthy, myers for most of the games, 34 games of desharnais and juulsen, brannstrom in half the games, hronek out for 21 games, forbort out for 26)
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arguably the best player in the league


after he returned:

21 games (missed 4)
2 goals
15 assists
17 pts
-13
26:41 icetime/game
96th in pts (12th among dmen)
83rd in pts/game (13th among dmen)
(fully healthy hronek and mp3, ep2 and forbort for most of the games, myers and mancini for more than half)
________________
“just” a superstar
 
vadim sharifijanov said:
a number of different conclusions can be drawn here but look at hughes’ usage and how it correlates in the opposite way you’d expect with his health and the strength of the rest of the D

hughes, pre-leaving the lineup:

47 games (missed 4)
14 goals
45 assists
59 pts
+16
25:18 icetime/game
12th in pts (1st among dmen)
8th in pts/game (1st among dmen)
5th in icetime
(soucy fully healthy, myers for most of the games, 34 games of desharnais and juulsen, brannstrom in half the games, hronek out for 21 games, forbort out for 26)
________________
arguably the best player in the league


after he returned:

21 games (missed 4)
2 goals
15 assists
17 pts
-13
26:41 icetime/game
96th in pts (12th among dmen)
83rd in pts/game (13th among dmen)
(fully healthy hronek and mp3, ep2 and forbort for most of the games, myers and mancini for more than half)
________________
“just” a superstar
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Weirdly, the team actually scored more in the second part too, despite Hughes’ numbers going down. Those first 51 for the Canucks, the team scored 2.84 GPG (20th in the league). Those final 25 they scored 3.08 (17th in the league).
 
lawrence said:
Canucks ‘will do everything we can’ to keep Hughes long term | NHL.com

doesn't help to see this type of headline so quickly :(
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Only a matter of time now. ;) FAFO.

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He's leaving for sure. Willander will be out the door as well.
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if indeed Hughes is a goner, then they can hardly afford to dump Wilander as well. It's hard enough to find young d-men in the draft with some offensive upside.

You can hardly afford to trade them, once you've actually drafted one. Just to hard to find impact, right-side d-men.
 
VanJack said:
if indeed Hughes is a goner, then they can hardly afford to dump Wilander as well. It's hard enough to find young d-men in the draft with some offensive upside.

You can hardly afford to trade them, once you've actually drafted one. Just to hard to find impact, right-side d-men.
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Its a full blow everything up rebuild anyways if Quinn leaves.

A decent prospect like Willander doesnt move the needle.
 
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Sadly, I think Rutherford was trying to prepare Canucks Nation for 'the inevitable'. Hughes is leaving, and it won't be about 'money'.

The only 'miracle' that could prevent it from happening, is if somehow the Canucks can acquire both the Hughes brothers from New Jersey. And the likelihood of that is only slightly above 'zero'.
 
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VanJack said:
Sadly, I think Rutherford was trying to prepare Canucks Nation for 'the inevitable'. Hughes is leaving, and it won't be about 'money'.

The only 'miracle' that could prevent it from happening, is if somehow the Canucks can acquire both the Hughes brothers from New Jersey. And the likelihood of that is only slightly above 'zero'.
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Same impression here as well. It didn't feel good. I think he's already set his sights on playing with his brothers and management knows it.
 
Ngl I had a big time feeling this would happen. It's probably time to now seriously consider trading him in the office season to maximize his return. The hughes brothers all seem to be injury prone, this could actually be a blessing in disguise if management can deal with this situation properly for once
 
I think its still way too early to panic, there are still 2 seasons before Hughes is UFA, a lot can change in 2 years. Some of the things that can change:
- Vancouver gets a lot better and becomes a contender;
- NJ becomes worse and drop into the "not competitive team" category;
- A lot of the Devils' prospects not developing and thus not giving them the depth to be more than a bubble team;
- NJ has no cap space in 2027 to add 14m to salary;
- Quinn satisfy his desire to play with his brothers in international tournament;
- The Hughes talks about it and decided to play together once they are in the twilight of their careers instead of the prime years;
- Luke sign a contract this summer than ends in 2030 walking him right to UFA, leaving the option for both Jack and Luke to decide where to sign/play together (potentially joining Quinn's team at that time);
- etc etc.

These are just a few off the top of my head. I don't think its a foregone conclusion that Quinn is heading to NJ.
 
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If Hughes was saying that he wants to play with his brothers (in Jersey presumably), that would completely cripple our return on him. Jersey won't offer much if they know they can get him for free, and other teams won't offer much if he is set on playing with his brothers on an NHL team. But I am certain Hughes would not screw the team or the fans over like that. He would allow himself to at least be traded to a contender if he is not liking what's happening here, and allow the Canucks to get fair value for him, which would be huge value. So, the chances of him re-signing here are pretty good, as this team is still evolving, with young grade A talent still being added to the team. The outlook for the team, even next year, looks very positive.
 
Call me crazy but... If there's any way to swap Quinn for Bedard... It would be massive for Vancouver. Yes I understand it's an overpayment but if Chicago gets guaranteed 2 years of Hughes and they can fight over the bros plus we get bedsey for maybe his entire career. We don't wanna f around with hughes going into next season, trade high while his 2 guaranteed years have value still. If management doesn't do it I'm just going to assume were gonna be in a full rebuild, missing the playoffs for 5+years atleast. This is my dream situation likely never happens
 
another crazy scenario is if Petey returns to being a PPG player again. And we trade Petey and maybe Willander for both Hughes. We may even have to add. Even though Petey has a much higher cap hit, Jack does have a hard time staying healthy. If Quinn is deadset on playing with his brothers, we may have to swing for the fences and throw a massive overpay for Jack and Luke because losing Quinn would be alot worse for this team.
 
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