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Quinn Hughes is having a Hart caliber season and it’s not talked about enough

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Quinn Hughes this season has been unreal.

Canucks d core for the last 22 games has been: Myers, Forbort, Juulsen, Soucy, Desharnais, Brannstrom, Brisebois, and Freidman. the Canucks are 19-13-10 right now with our other two stars struggling is all thanks to Hughes.

He has 47 points as of today, leads all defenseman in PPG (1.26), leads his team in points by 17, and his next closest defensive counterpart has a whopping 12 points. He has 9 goals while the rest of the d core combined have 6 goals. He has more points than the rest of the d core combined.

He’s been a possession monster and leads the entire NHL with longest time with the puck in the offensive zone.

The team without Hughes is just downright terrible. For instance, Pettersson and Miller with and without Hughes (this season):

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Hughes also has 131 more high danger chances than his next closest teammate. Obviously a bit biased here, but simply put, Hughes defines the most valuable player in it’s literal terms.
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Thats got to be the worst defence in NHL history for a borderline playoff team. Its Hughes and 6 AHL/#6 Dmen.

Out of the entire list of

Myers, Forbort, Juulsen, Soucy, Desharnais, Brannstrom, Brisebois, and Freidman

All would clear waivers at this point.


Hughes should be the front runner for Norris at this point and its not even close.

Makar trails Mackinnon by 20 points lol.

Pettersson and Miller are trailing Hughes by almost 20 points.
 
Icebreakers said:
Thats got to be the worst defence in NHL history for a borderline playoff team. Its Hughes and 6 AHL/#6 Dmen.

Out of the entire list of

Myers, Forbort, Juulsen, Soucy, Desharnais, Brannstrom, Brisebois, and Freidman

All would clear waivers at this point.


Hughes should be the front runner for Norris at this point and its not even close.

Makar trails Mackinnon by 20 points lol.

Pettersson and Miller are trailing Hughes by almost 20 points.
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When i suggested after the playoffs last year that the canucks would take a step back after losing a few D-men i was ripped to shreds, then this year they ice this line up.:laugh:

as for Makar, MacK has like 11 EN points, so its an inflated lead, also scoring is up as a whole with EN's because teams are pulling goalies with like 4-5 minutes left. Its skewing stats.
 
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Icebreakers said:
Thats got to be the worst defence in NHL history for a borderline playoff team. Its Hughes and 6 AHL/#6 Dmen.

Out of the entire list of

Myers, Forbort, Juulsen, Soucy, Desharnais, Brannstrom, Brisebois, and Freidman

All would clear waivers at this point.


Hughes should be the front runner for Norris at this point and its not even close.

Makar trails Mackinnon by 20 points lol.

Pettersson and Miller are trailing Hughes by almost 20 points.
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Technically Hronek is part of that defensive core and should be back soon. But either way canucks have a #1 D, a #2/3 in Hronek, and then a bunch of #6 or worse. When Myers is minimizing the chaos he's probably in the 4 range, but he's all over the map.
 
Oilslick941611 said:
When i suggested after the playoffs last year that the canucks would take a step back after losing a few D-men i was ripped to shreds, then this year they ice this line up.:laugh:

as for Makar, MacK has like 11 EN points, so its an inflated lead, also scoring is up as a whole with EN's because teams are pulling goalies with like 4-4 minutes left. Its skewing stats.
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I guess I missed the part where you forecast all the injuries to core players and the off ice bullshit as well…..your a regular Nostradamus…..
 
Icebreakers said:
Thats got to be the worst defence in NHL history for a borderline playoff team. Its Hughes and 6 AHL/#6 Dmen.

Out of the entire list of

Myers, Forbort, Juulsen, Soucy, Desharnais, Brannstrom, Brisebois, and Freidman

All would clear waivers at this point.


Hughes should be the front runner for Norris at this point and its not even close.

Makar trails Mackinnon by 20 points lol.

Pettersson and Miller are trailing Hughes by almost 20 points.
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Soucy is decent and Myers at the right role still got it

The rest is junk though
 
IMO—you need to be a playoff caliber team to be a Hart candidate. That’s far from a sure thing for these Canucks.

Fairly or not. If there is any question to them being in the playoffs by the time voters are assessing their ballots—he’ll be punished for it.

MardyBum said:
Didn't realize the rest of the Canucks roster was so shitty.
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I think part of the “let’s trade Pettersson and Miller” calculus that the Canucks are considering is whether they could put in other players perceived to be 80-90% as good as them at 50-60% of that cap hit of them—and still get similar results thanks to how well Quinn Hughes tilts the ice.
 
StickShift said:
IMO—you need to be a playoff caliber team to be a Hart candidate. That’s far from a sure thing for these Canucks.

Fairly or not. If there is any question to them being in the playoffs by the time voters are assessing their ballots—he’ll be punished for it.
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That’s the thing, though. The Canucks will make the playoffs. Every year for the remainder of Quinn’s contract. He’s that good…
 
Fine. A Hughes thread with the season he is having is appropriate. Atleast it’s not a thread like Brannstrom has arrived (now on waivers). Or how JT miller finally had a good night (now pointless in 3 games).

The argument for Hughes and the Hart is a valid one. Cause he does that drive that team from an individual standpoint at a high level. For as much as McD and the Oilers has been accused of being a “one-man” team, Hughes is right there with the Canucks at probably more extreme level than McD and the Oilers ever were. There’s a valid argument for Hughes for Hart.

That said I don’t think Hughes wins the Norris, let alone Hart. Makar will have the Norris, which takes MacK out of contention for the Hart (or should), and the Hart will be Drais this season.
 
TheNumber4 said:
Fine. A Hughes thread with the season he is having is appropriate. Atleast it’s not a thread like Brannstrom has arrived (now on waivers). Or how JT miller finally had a good night (now pointless in 3 games).

The argument for Hughes and the Hart is a valid one. Cause he does that drive that team from an individual standpoint at a high level. For as much as McD and the Oilers has been accused of being a “one-man” team, Hughes is right there with the Canucks at probably more extreme level than McD and the Oilers ever were. There’s a valid argument for Hughes for Hart.

That said I don’t think Hughes wins the Norris, let alone Hart. Makar will have the Norris, which takes MacK out of contention for the Hart (or should), and the Hart will be Drais this season.
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Theres no argument for Makar for Norris.

Unless if we are going off of name recognition and voters fatigue.

You dont understand. With him off the ice, the Canucks are a bottom 5 team in the league. They are closer to the sharks than a playoff team. This is with Miller and Pettersson on the ice.
 
He’s being dominant in every facet yet somehow is still unlucky.

I know alot of players miss out on points from their team mates fluffing or missing the net, but Quinn is out there doing the most with not much.

Some players like him have seasons close to this for half a season where everything goes right. Every point shot gets tipped, every cross seam pass is a goal. That’s far from the truth this year.

Just a dominant player. He was everywhere against the Sens this year. Every time I looked up it was Hughes getting possession and reloading a rush.
 
Icebreakers said:
Theres no argument for Makar for Norris.

Unless if we are going off of name recognition and voters fatigue.

You dont understand. With him off the ice, the Canucks are a bottom 5 team in the league. They are closer to the sharks than a playoff team. This is with Miller and Pettersson on the ice.
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There’s always an argument for Makar for Norris.

How could I not understand, I literally mentioned that Hughes drives that team on a level even the one man team era McD driven Oilers wasn’t.
 
TheNumber4 said:
There’s always an argument for Makar for Norris.

How could I not understand, I literally mentioned that Hughes drives that team on a level even the one man team era McD driven Oilers wasn’t.
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There is no argument (at this point of the season). Hughes is better on ice by every advanced stat and shifts the ice for his team in a way that is matched by no one. Miller and Pettersson are getting caved in at even strength without Hughes.

Saying "theres always an argument for Makar for Norris" is just going off his reputation and name.
 
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