Quarterback movement rumor thread
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I have never been the biggest fan of Wilson, and have always found his hype to be annoying.
He gets carried to a Super Bowl by a defense that is considered by many to be one of the best defenses of all-time.
This got him an ego that is bigger than his abilities.
Then he throws an interception on the goal-line to cost his team a Super Bowl, and all everyone focusses on is Pete Carroll not handing the ball to Marshawn Lynch.
If he wasn't the media's "golden boy" and was someone like Peyton Manning, he would still be getting crucified for being "un-clutch" and a choker. You still hear stories about how Manning used to "choke" against teams in the playoffs while he was with the Colts, despite the fact his team's defense was garbage all those years. Wilson gets no such criticism even after making a boneheaded play (a truly elite QB should have been able to see the play unfolding; it is clear on the replay that he was throwing it into a converging double-coverage and he shouldn't have tried making that throw).
Wilson takes a huge contract that has the result of making the team around him weaker, and now he wants to complain that he doesn't have enough help?
He has just always rubbed me the wrong way, and I have always though he has been coddled and protected by those in the media.
He gets carried to a Super Bowl by a defense that is considered by many to be one of the best defenses of all-time.
This got him an ego that is bigger than his abilities.
Then he throws an interception on the goal-line to cost his team a Super Bowl, and all everyone focusses on is Pete Carroll not handing the ball to Marshawn Lynch.
If he wasn't the media's "golden boy" and was someone like Peyton Manning, he would still be getting crucified for being "un-clutch" and a choker. You still hear stories about how Manning used to "choke" against teams in the playoffs while he was with the Colts, despite the fact his team's defense was garbage all those years. Wilson gets no such criticism even after making a boneheaded play (a truly elite QB should have been able to see the play unfolding; it is clear on the replay that he was throwing it into a converging double-coverage and he shouldn't have tried making that throw).
Wilson takes a huge contract that has the result of making the team around him weaker, and now he wants to complain that he doesn't have enough help?
He has just always rubbed me the wrong way, and I have always though he has been coddled and protected by those in the media.
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JordanStaal#1Fan
Come on now, Peyton Manning is the prime example of a "Golden Boy" adored by the media.
If you saw the Super Bowl and Mahomes running for his life a second after taking the snap, that's been the way for Wilson for several of his years in Seattle. The OL, often doesn't even give him a chance to execute the called play.
Combination of the OL and offensive scheme. They like to pound the rock and hope to take shots. Taking shots requires the OL protection to hold up. If it doesn't then you can't execute a longer developing play.
I've heard Chris Simms criticize the Hawks play calls in terms of their routes to be very basic in their concepts. They don't create schemes that allows their guys to get uncovered more easily, thus making easier throws for the QB. That's been an issue.
If you look at the OL over the years, Seattle has drafted Britt in round 2, but it took him until year 3 to find his position at C and he played well from that point forward. Ifedi was a OT but wasn't that good for a round 1 pick. Took a guy Rees Obijamboo in round 3 who was an OT in college but couldn't play that in the NFL and didn't have the girth to play G. They drafted a Guard in round 4 who didn't do much for them, but moved onto Indy and has been good for them. So, coaching and scheme might be an issue. Drafted Pocic, but that year they had Ramcyzk sitting at their spot and passed on him to take McDowell a DT who never played for them. That one hurt as he has been an excelled RT. They recently drafted Lewis at RG. And they did trade a #2 & #3 for Brown.
Criticism is fair of the team. Brady would be cursing out the OL & coaches if he had Seattle's line over the years vs the ones he had in NE and TB.
But, Brady takes less money, so that's something that he and Wilson differ on. Which is huge.
Media gives Brady credit for bringing in Gronk, Brown, Fournette. But, they didn't count much against the cap. That's much different than trying to bring in the top OL in free agency.
OL has been better since they moved off Cable 3 years ago.
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
No matter what, similar to Brees and Brady there will come a time when they have to eat dead cap when the QB is no longer on the team due to all of the salary restructuring they have done.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
His cap number is $41 mill for next season under his current contract.
Probably the main reason from Pitt POV to be this non committal. As they need to restructure his contract. But want it on their terms.
Spring in Fialta
A malign star kept him
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
I will be pissed if we waste another year with Mitch
Moving on from Mitch was only good move from a bleak offseason
Yeah. His cash due is $27 mill in 25 and $31 mill in 26. Cap hit of $49.6 in 25 and $53 mill in 26. Rams are fine with the cash but want to drop the cap amount.
Stafford wants more money. Likely into the $40 mill range. Rams have roughly $45 mill in dead cap from prior years on Stafford. Feels like they would work something out if it’s reasonable. But that’s up to Stafford. I mean he has made great money in the nfl. If he can secure a second SB he’s getting into the HOF. But his 4 years with the rams likely not enough to get him into the Hall given his years in Detroit where the numbers look
Good but the wins were not there. Where can he land where he could win another SB?
Are the rams willing to take a dip in 25 with the hope of drafting a QB in 26 draft?
Voight
#winning
IMO he's only leaving if the Steelers or Vikes are interested. He won't want to waste his last few years on a bad/tweener team and those two are the only playoff teams that might need a QB. I believe he has a NTC.
pockets
Well, we’re waiting…
Yep, I’m thinking it’s Steelers or staying put, Vikes have their future QB in JJ and if they really want to give him another year to develop then just tag Darnold. But I’m guessing the Rams and Stafford are just using other teams to gauge his value so they can renegotiate his deal.
Steelers yes, Vikings no. I could see the Jets, Giants, and Raiders as well. The Giants just hired his brother inlaw.
There are a few teams that would be interested, but aside from making more money than the $27 mill he's due in 2025, what is the benefit of those other clubs over the Rams. Jets/Giants, how are their OL? LV, lack weapons outside of Bowers. Does Stafford's skillset now work with Chip Kelly's offensive scheme?
Pittsburgh is the team that makes the most logical sense from a roster POV. Drafted 2 OL in round 1 the past 2 drafts, (not sure how well they have done in the NFL), but have a strong D, so not all on Stafford. Weapons are good, but have that Pitt Diva quality to them. Will need to add a weapon or 2 in the off-season to bolster the offense.
What is Stafford looking at for a Contract? It likely would be a 2 year deal (in terms of guaranteed money). Question is the amount. Is it $40 mill per? $45 mill per?
And what is the return? 1st rounder? Not from those clubs in NY and LV. Pitt, sure, I can see that.
