GDT: Qualifying Offers, Buyout Window, & July 1st Free Agency Discussion Thread

[Belial]

Im laughing at Debrincat situation
Bro wants out and nobody wants to give what he wants lmaooo

The guy is a one-trick pony but he thinks he's worth 10M...

 

[NotProkofievian]

Real quiet about Zadina in here, fancy that. I'd have thought people would be pounding the table for us to claim him.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The guy is a one-trick pony but he thinks he's worth 10M...

He wants 10 for 7 years

when Ottawa offered 8.25m for 8. thats like 4m less lol

 

[donghabs98]

 

[Ezpz]

Real quiet about Zadina in here, fancy that. I'd have thought people would be pounding the table for us to claim him.

It makes perfect sense for us to claim him if we have a deal in place to dump Hoffman or Armia. Farrell, Heinemen or whoever can start in Laval. He had decent numbers the past few years but struggled heavily last season. The reason nobody wants him in a trade is his real dollars are higher than his cap hit next year. It would make more sense to trade Armia for him after he clears waivers though.

 

[Belial]

He wants 10 for 7 years

when Ottawa offered 8.25m for 8. thats like 4m less lol

Clearly doesn't like Tim Hortons.

But guys like this should never make more than 8M$ IMO.

 

[WatchfulElm]

Caufield - Suzuki - Anderson
Slakovsky - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Monahan - Gallagher
Hoffman - Dvorak -Pezzetta
Evans, Ylonen, Armia, Pitlick

Where are they supposed to fit them? You're throwing a tantrum about 13/14th forward/1st/2nd AHL call ups. Let's take a 31 years old guy over a 27 yo and 26 yo guy just because he speak the French.

If he was in your starting lineup, you deserve 30 years and counting. Probably 30 more.

The age argument is the only one that makes sense. Because looking at this line-up, I'd put Belzile in before many of them :

- Pitlick (easy one)
- Armia (what's stopping us from burying him in the AHL?)
- Hoffman (we have more than enough cap space to buy out his contract if no other team wants him)
- Evans (he doesn't bring much on the table honestly, a dime a dozen)
- Pezzetta (perfect 14th forward, but Belzile is a better NHL player)
- Gallagher (but we're stuck with his contract)
- Ylonen (Belzile brings more to the table now, but I understand keeping him up so we don't lose him on waivers)
- Slaf (Belzile also brings more now, but it could change quickly. Slaf can also benefit from having AHL time)

So here are 8 forwards out of 16 that don't deserve to be in the line-up before Belzile. But since we can start the season with 14th forwards, all you need to do is remove 3 of them : 1- Pitlick (AHL)
2- Armia (AHL)
3- Hoffman (buy out) or Evans (waivers) or Slaf (AHL)

But even more likely : 1 or 2 players get injured and you're very happy to have a Belzile to fill the gap.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It makes perfect sense for us to claim him if we have a deal in place to dump Hoffman or Armia. Farrell, Heinemen or whoever can start in Laval. He had decent numbers the past few years but struggled heavily last season. The reason nobody wants him in a trade is his real dollars are higher than his cap hit next year. It would make more sense to trade Armia for him after he clears waivers though.

Zadina is a shooter who doesn't shoot. Maybe he figures it out that that's all he can do, but it doesn't seem like people are lining up to take that bet.

 

[Shred]

Im laughing at Debrincat situation
Bro wants out and nobody wants to give what he wants lmaooo

Sometimes you get what you deserve

 

[Belial]

Zadina is a shooter who doesn't shoot. Maybe he figures it out that that's all he can do, but it doesn't seem like people are lining up to take that bet.

Or maybe it's not all about the skills at the end of the day?

 

[NotProkofievian]

Or maybe it's not all about the skills at the end of the day?

Yeah that's pretty much what I'm saying. Volume is more important than shooting talent for scoring goals. Both he and Wahlstrom have lasers, and they don't use them enough.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Man might be a shit take but id take Nylander at 8.5m

 

[RationalExpectations]

Man might be a shit take but id take Nylander at 8.5m

My guess : so would TOR and they can offer 8 years. The issue is that he may want more than 10m.

 

[Belial]

Man might be a shit take but id take Nylander at 8.5m

Shit take for sure! Nylander is a passenger, I'd like to spend that kind of cash on someone who impacts the game.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Shit take for sure! Nylander is a passenger, I'd like to spend that kind of cash on someone who impacts the game.

Nylander has been 1 of the best leafs player who actually show up. I think Marner and Matthews or even Tavares are way more invisible than him and cost way more.

 

[Archijerej]

It makes perfect sense for us to claim him if we have a deal in place to dump Hoffman or Armia.

Still too many forwards even if we dump one of Hoffman or Armia. There's really no place for Zadina if you want to play guys like RHP and Ylonen. There's also Pezzetta.

 

[Archijerej]

Zadina is a shooter who doesn't shoot. Maybe he figures it out that that's all he can do, but it doesn't seem like people are lining up to take that bet.

The problem with shooters is that they need to have the ability to find space to shoot from.

Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with Pierre Dagenais' talent.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The problem with shooters is that they need to have the ability to find space to shoot from.

Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with Pierre Dagenais' talent.

Some players have that special talent to always be in the right place at the right time. Still more made a career of just taking more shots. Gallagher as an example.

 

[Archijerej]

Some players have that special talent to always be in the right place at the right time. Still more made a career of just taking more shots. Gallagher as an example.

I'm kind of offended you didn't appreciate my Dagenais joke.

 

[salbutera]

Zadina’s a perimeter forward - unwilling to go to high danger areas to score & has made no effort to get stronger…. NHL isn’t just about talent

 

[Ezpz]

Man wtf Kent Hughes. I left in early may and prices are up 25% despite the Canadian dollar being incredibly strong now. Make a trade to solve this.

 

[JuicyHam]

Zadina is a shooter who doesn't shoot. Maybe he figures it out that that's all he can do, but it doesn't seem like people are lining up to take that bet.

It's strange because even when he was drafted his biggest asset was his sneaky shot and plus finishing from what I remember it was absolutely being described as a high NHL level shot as a junior player but his finishing in the league has been so far below average

 

[Scriptor]

- I think Dvo could get his trade value up if he produced playing wing with offensive players. And I'd rather our other young offensive wingers play with Suzuki, Dach or Monahan as their C.
- I also see Newhook as too small to play with CC and NS. If it works great. But I'm not counting on it.
- I like Salf with Monahan last year and RHP with Anderson. But I think Slaf could play well with Dach.

Everything will play out as the chemistry on the ice dictates, but I think the following could be a competitive top 12 that helps the youth develop:

Caufield - Suzuki - Dvo (to get Dvo's value up and move him)
Slaf - Dach - Newhook
RHP- Monahan - Anderson
Gally - Evans - Ylonen
Pez
(Pitlick, Hoffman, Armia in Laval)


(could switch Slaf and Anderson so that Salf plays with Money Hands and Anderson - Dach - Newhook is lights out with speed)

I don't like the idea of catering to Dvorak and his potential future trade value by placing him on the wing with Suzuki and Caufield. That duo should get a better winger, not vice versa.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Man might be a shit take but id take Nylander at 8.5m

I think every team would.

He wants 10, though.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It's strange because even when he was drafted his biggest asset was his sneaky shot and plus finishing from what I remember it was absolutely being described as a high NHL level shot as a junior player but his finishing in the league has been so far below average

His shot is still what it is, but he just doesn't use it. When a guy like Gallagher can put up 30 goal seasons, it ain't the shot that's not working for him. He's in his own way.