OT: PWHL Thread - Draft at 1pm Monday 9/18

Taro Tsujimoto · Jun 29, 2023

Well, this is massive:

Jim Bob · Jun 30, 2023

New pro women’s hockey league set to launch in January with 6 teams in North America

Organizers announced plans Friday to launch a new women’s professional hockey league in January that they hope will provide a stable, economically sustainable home for the sport’s top players for years to come.The North American league is expected to start with six teams — three in the U.S. and...

www.thescore.com

Jim Bob · Jun 30, 2023

Fezzy126 · Jun 30, 2023

Sad if true, the Beauts were a lot of fun

Burgmania · Jun 30, 2023

I'm devastated.

Jim Bob · Jun 30, 2023

Chainshot · Jul 1, 2023

This sucks.

Jim Bob · Jul 6, 2023

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TheMistyStranger · Jul 6, 2023

Absolutely terrible for women's hockey. Massive step backwards.

Jim Bob · Jul 6, 2023

TheMistyStranger said:
Absolutely terrible for women's hockey. Massive step backwards.

It all depends on whether this is the precursor to the NHL getting involved or not. Now the NHL's excuse that they did not want to get involved until their is one league is gone.

If that never happens, this is a step backwards that might never allow for a step forward. But, if you look at the path that pro women's soccer has taken in North America, there have been so many of these types of fits and starts along the way to where the NWSL is today.

Burgmania · Jul 6, 2023

Jim Bob said:
It all depends on whether this is the precursor to the NHL getting involved or not. Now the NHL's excuse that they did not want to get involved until their is one league is gone.

If that never happens, this is a step backwards that might never allow for a step forward. But, if you look at the path that pro women's soccer has taken in North America, there have been so many of these types of fits and starts along the way to where the NWSL is today.

The NHL has reportedly been in "daily" conversations with the new administration since this was all announced, so we'll see what happens, I suppose.

Have some additional information from my better half, who's been covering the NWHL / PHF since its inception in 2015-16:

A Few Answers and Plenty of Questions About the New Professional Women's Hockey League

Jayna Hefford and Stan Kasten talk about the goals for the new professional women's hockey league, set to launch in January 2024, with a bigger and more complete announcement tentatively slated for August 2023.

victorypress.org

Some breadcrumbs over the next little bit, and a formal announcement of the new league in 30-60 days.

Ehran · Jul 6, 2023

Sorry, but voiding the existing contracts of the PHF players and then saying that the PA players will get first dibs on roster spots just ... I mean... I can't accept that. Not at all.

EDIT: As that article linked above stated, these women had contracts, jobs, plans. All thrown away in a matter of moments. Now they're left to fend for themselves. Just so low class.

I followed the Beauts from afar but I don't see myself following this new league at all. Especially since no team will be in Buffalo.

Talk to me again in a decade. Maybe my views will have changed. :thumbd:

Jim Bob · Jul 6, 2023

Ehran said:
Sorry, but voiding the existing contracts of the PHF players and then saying that the PA players will get first dibs on roster spots just ... I mean... I can't accept that. Not at all.

EDIT: As that article linked above stated, these women had contracts, jobs, plans. All thrown away in a matter of moments. Now they're left to fend for themselves. Just so low class.

I followed the Beauts from afar but I don't see myself following this new league at all. Especially since no team will be in Buffalo.

Talk to me again in a decade. Maybe my views will have changed.

There are rumors that the PHF went with the buyout because they were on the verge of bankruptcy. And of course the PWHPA was going to favor their members when everything shook out. It was like loads of WHA players getting the shaft when the NHL won that tug of war and the league folded with a couple teams getting to join the NHL.

Ehran · Jul 6, 2023

Jim Bob said:
There are rumors that the PHF went with the buyout because they were on the verge of bankruptcy. And of course the PWHPA was going to favor their members when everything shook out. It was like loads of WHA players getting the shaft when the NHL won that tug of war and the league folded with a couple teams getting to join the NHL.

Oh, I get that it was all legal.

But it could have (should have) been handled better. Perhaps a "buyout" of existing contracts. Or severance package.

If their intent is to grow women's hockey I'm not sure how screwing over half the professional players accomplishes that.

Jim Bob · Jul 6, 2023

Ehran said:
Oh, I get that it was all legal.

But it could have (should have) been handled better. Perhaps a "buyout" of existing contracts. Or severance package.

If their intent is to grow women's hockey I'm not sure how screwing over half the professional players accomplishes that.

Pro women’s hockey isn’t to the point financially for that to happen, though.

It’s like all the shady stuff that happens in lower level Men’s pro hockey in NA and Europe.

And as far as growing the game goes, the PWHPA was always in a death match with the PHF and the people behind that league.

Dingo44 · Jul 6, 2023

Jim Bob said:
Pro women’s hockey isn’t to the point financially for that to happen, though.

It’s like all the shady stuff that happens in lower level Men’s pro hockey in NA and Europe.

And as far as growing the game goes, the PWHPA was always in a death match with the PHF and the people behind that league.

No one has a "right" to make a living playing hockey.

No one in the NHL, no one in the AHL, no one in the ECHL or the SPHL or the FPHL or anyone in the PWHPA.

If there was an actual right to make a living playing hockey, then that's what I'd be doing for a living.

Jim Bob · Jul 6, 2023

Dingo44 said:
No one has a "right" to make a living playing hockey.

No one in the NHL, no one in the AHL, no one in the ECHL or the SPHL or the FPHL or anyone in the PWHPA.

If there was an actual right to make a living playing hockey, then that's what I'd be doing for a living.

No, but even the PHF leadership admitted the timing of everything was really bad. A lot of people are getting visas yanked out from under them after they spent money to relocate after being signed to contracts that have since been voided.

I do feel really bad for all the players that are getting shafted.

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