Post-Game Talk: PS 4 - Flyers 3 BRUINS 1

Tbaybruin

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Do you believe everything, you read? Especially that which emanates from the always hockey knowledgeable and trustworthy Jacobs family? He very well want Daddy to get another cup, the same why I would like to subsist on a diet of pizza and root beer floats. I have said before, but I also find it a little slimy saying that WE are the ones who will not accept an obvious rebuild.
That Pizza and floats thing is a great idea. Thanks
 
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Poitras is certainly a guy that has made the biggest case for making the NHL roster. The decision making has been quick and he's made the right decision more times than not. He's had a handful of bad decisions, but that's expected for a 19yr old rookie. His willingness to engage in board battles and come out with the puck has been impressive. He's done well getting in on the forecheck and disrupting breakout plays. His vision has been fun to watch and you can see he understand how to create lates and get guys the puck in open space.
For me Poitras made no more mistakes than any other player. We are just focusing on everything he does. The kid has been unreal. He has played like a #2 C. He has earned it. If he can’t do it in the first nine games send him back.
 
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Need to consider some of these guys just are not good enough at this point (or maybe ever).
Understood and I don't think 50%+ of that roster will make it. And shame on me for forgetting Monty just got back from his Mothers' funeral. No tongue in cheek - he shouldn't be called out for complacent play so early - but it "does" show the guys (irrespective of Monty under the circumstances) aren't "bringing it". Time for Sweeney to get the hatchet out and send guys down and out because if you can't play for your coach coming back from that ordeal - and for your chances at an NHL roster slot, I'm done with you. Good riddance.
 
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For me Poitras made no more mistakes than any other player. We are just focusing on everything he does. The kid has been unreal. He has played like a #2 C. He has earned it. If he can’t do it in the first nine games send him back.
He looks to be the real deal - maybe in a B Point style as a youngster - undersized, slower skater, but just good hockey IQ and skills. I do have concerns about skating, stamina and physical development at this point for him if he were to make a 82 game NHL roster in a top 9 role. It sucks he can't go to the AHL for 40 games or so and grow the skating and physical regimen before a callup.

As much as he has earned it vs. many of the other stiffs in the pre-season, I think he would be well served with a taste and then a full OHL / WJr's season to focus on his skating, shot and physical development and come back next year and claim a top 6 slot.

If he were to join the roster this year I don't think it would kill his development but there will be "bad stretches" IMO as Monty likes to roll scoring and checking lines and I can't see him in an energy / checking line so it would be a bit of a mismatch IMO. Good player though and shows real promise we haven't seen since probably Pasta's camp. (NOT saying he will be anything like Pasta, just he has that same "wow" factor to understanding and playing the game you can see pretty quickly.)
 
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Its easy to say Boston fans need to get over it, but its just not the reality of things. Boston fans have an expectation of winning because that's what the city has done for the last 20 years. Again they've shown with the Patriots & Red Sox that they won't tolerate not winning, the proof is in the pudding.

As for the rest, going all in wasn't a mistake, it was the right move. If Sweeney didn't go in and the Bruins lost in R1, fans would have been livid and would have said this was the prefect time to go in and Sweeney failed. The performance last night was meh, but its also pre-season with a wide range of talent level and guys (for the most part) with almost no time playing together. The Flyers being at home also iced a pretty strong group of guys with 13 of their 18 skaters are NHL regulars.

It doesn't really matter how much fans complain, what matters to team owners is how they vote with their feet and wallets, i.e. how many still turn up to games, and how much merch do they buy? As long as those figures remain high, then all the rest is just noise. As far as I know, Pats attendance hasn't dropped off, whereas Fenway's average crowd numbers have decreased but not by a massive amount. As such I would argue that there is a certain level of tolerance amongst Boston sports fans for teams to go through rough patches. Social media and radio amplify the angry folks, but the more sensible middle seems to hold up better.

How long that would remain the case, and whether the same would be true for the Bruins, are different questions. What I would say is the Jacobs' shouldn't dismiss the franchise's ability to wear a rebuilding phase out of hand. There's at least some evidence that a solid percentage of the fans will stick around.
 
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He looks to be the real deal - maybe in a B Point style as a youngster - undersized, slower skater, but just good hockey IQ and skills. I do have concerns about skating, stamina and physical development at this point for him if he were to make a 82 game NHL roster in a top 9 role. It sucks he can't go to the AHL for 40 games or so and grow the skating and physical regimen before a callup.

As much as he has earned it vs. many of the other stiffs in the pre-season, I think he would be well served with a taste and then a full OHL / WJr's season to focus on his skating, shot and physical development and come back next year and claim a top 6 slot.

If he were to join the roster this year I don't think it would kill his development but there will be "bad stretches" IMO as Monty likes to roll scoring and checking lines and I can't see him in an energy / checking line so it would be a bit of a mismatch IMO. Good player though and shows real promise we haven't seen since probably Pasta's camp. (NOT saying he will be anything like Pasta, just he has that same "wow" factor to understanding and playing the game you can see pretty quickly.)
Good points but I have not seen any issues in his game as of yet. He is keeping up with the play, has not backed down physically and is just as good in the 3rd as the 1st. If he plays well in back to backs tonight he has to be in .
 
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Good points but I have not seen any issues in his game as of yet. He is keeping up with the play, has not backed down physically and is just as good in the 3rd as the 1st. If he plays well in back to backs tonight he has to be in .
I think he has earned it vs. his peer group for sure. Just think he needs to work on his stride (power) and some edge work on the acceleration. Core strength looks there just lacking in lower and upper body. In close edge work is pretty good and balance / hips are already there. Stick is ready but a bit weak, anticipation is NHL level. Passing is good but again without NHL level lower and upper body there is some jam missing.

It looks to me he is putting 100% out there when the competition is putting out maybe 90%. That 10% gap is pretty big once the real season starts nevermind the playoffs.

If they think they can get him into a fast track power skating special ops and the gym for lower and upper body development plus a shot clinic - all between NHL pressure and travelling 3 days a week and doing planes, trains and automobiles (that is a tough life for ongoing development) that all for it. He certainly has shown more than the Browns or the Greers so far this pre-season.
 

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It doesn't really matter how much fans complain, what matters to team owners is how they vote with their feet and wallets, i.e. how many still turn up to games, and how much merch do they buy? As long as those figures remain high, then all the rest is just noise. As far as I know, Pats attendance hasn't dropped off, whereas Fenway's average crowd numbers have decreased but not by a massive amount. As such I would argue that there is a certain level of tolerance amongst Boston sports fans for teams to go through rough patches. Social media and radio amplify the angry folks, but the more sensible middle seems to hold up better.

How long that would remain the case, and whether the same would be true for the Bruins, are different questions. What I would say is the Jacobs' shouldn't dismiss the franchise's ability to wear a rebuilding phase out of hand. There's at least some evidence that a solid percentage of the fans will stick around.

We can agree to disagree and wait for the day that a rebuild actually happens.
 

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I don't see it as bashing, he's simply outperformed Zboril. With Zboril taking up more cap space he's an easy candidate to put on waivers. I don't think any team is waiting to jump on him.

He's 26 years old. He's had nearly 10 years to "develop."

I've never entirely bought into the assumption that GM's are reluctant to part with bad draft selections, because it makes them look bad.

I don't know the truth in this case, and at this point I don't care.

I simply want to be rid of this foolishness.
 
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We can agree to disagree and wait for the day that a rebuild actually happens.

Oh the Jacobs will not rebuild unless they absolutely have no choice, no doubt about that. I'm simply saying there's at least an arguable case to be made that they could do it without suffering too much financially if they wanted to. But they don't.
 

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I think it was a ho hum signing. I said when he signed teams don’t give away good young talent especially if they sign for 2 mil.

Guess we'll see. I was hoping for a steal, or at least someone with a sense of gratitude and urgency toward the club that's giving him a real shot at becoming something more than a fourth line afterthought.

HIs play thus far has not impressed, never mind the goal on a sneaky good dish from Coyle.

Geek better figure it out, and he better understand what's at stake per his career.

I don't see much evidence of that, and I don't see much evidence of "urgency" or "hunger" elsewhere this preseason, with some notable exceptions. Again, sorry, but that is on management and coaching staff.

If one or two don't get it, that's their mistake. If most or many appear to be uninterested passengers, as seems the case, that speaks to poor direction from above and behind the bench.
 
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