News Article: Prospect Report: Who Needs to Have a Statement Year?

[tigermask48]

Seems the same excuses that were used for Colten Teubert are being used here.

"You are spoiled with Doughty, not everyone is Doughty"
" Forbort is not Voynov, he won't score 50 points a year"

The thing is, no one mentioned points in any of the posts. What is really concerning is in three years at NoDak he never become a dominant player, not even as an upperclassmen this season, not even close to it. Which is what high end future NHL defenders do in college, not everyone is Jacob Trouba or Justin Faulk and dominate as freshman, but by the time you enter your third season of college hockey you should begin to dominate games from the blue line. And you don't need to score a point per game to do it, Ryan McDonaugh and Danny DeKeyser were dominant college defenders as juniors and they were not high scoring players.

Ofcourse he didn't remind the other poster of Rob Scuderi, his style of play is not Rob Scuderi and he won't be Rob Scuderi at the NHL level. I don't know if people cheapen just how tough it is to find a Rob Scuderi, but you just can't turn anyone into Rob Scuderi. Which is what people seem to want to think Forbort is because his offensive game has completely stagnated. Think of it this way, if Slava Voynov's offensive game never developed would he be up in the NHL right now playing a defensive role? Sorry to rant, but I just find it funny when someone says "he is fine" after three seasons of college hockey with little to no development. I guarantee you the Kings, much like the UND fan base expected a lot more from Derek Forbort than what they got in his three years there.

Scuderi may be a bad example... But people people should be aware that Scuds put up his highest point total at BC in his freshman year and only came close to meeting that in his senior year... Then spent 4 1/2 years in the AHL before he became an NHL mainstay... Scuderi stagnated for a LONG time after being drafted until he made good as an NHL player. Scuderi is very much an example of a guy with a huge development curve and may apply to Derek. He may not have been a standout in college but you don't have to be. Remember how many people were scratching thier heads when the Kings signed Drewiske? It was met with almost universal cries of "Who?" and "Huh?" Forbort didn't look lost in his 10 AHL games last year which was the first real test of how far along he was in his development after his rather unimpressive WJC showing and last two years at ND.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Forbort may not be the next weber, but he'll be good.

I hope he is half as good as your avatar!

 

[damacles1156]

Scuderi may be a bad example... But people people should be aware that Scuds put up his highest point total at BC in his freshman year and only came close to meeting that in his senior year... Then spent 4 1/2 years in the AHL before he became an NHL mainstay... Scuderi stagnated for a LONG time after being drafted until he made good as an NHL player. Scuderi is very much an example of a guy with a huge development curve and may apply to Derek. He may not have been a standout in college but you don't have to be. Remember how many people were scratching thier heads when the Kings signed Drewiske? It was met with almost universal cries of "Who?" and "Huh?" Forbort didn't look lost in his 10 AHL games last year which was the first real test of how far along he was in his development after his rather unimpressive WJC showing and last two years at ND.

I agree ^

Forbort will be fine, Again it will be his first year in the AHL playing men. He will Struggle.

That first round was screwed up cause Lombardi simply picked Forbort. The most talented player left was Tarasenko.

If Forbort manages to make the Kings and be a top Four guy, I would be happy with that.

Also I don't get it when people say he has not progressed.

Derek looks like a different player to me, I watched him live when the Kings drafted him, a UND game (friend attends school there) also Both development camps.

Caught one Manchester game, he looks different on the ice too me, makes proper reads, moves the puck faster, his Skating is a lot better.

The Kings signed him, had he not progressed at all, They wouldn't have bothered with a Contract (like Gibson).

Also Teubert couldn't even make the AHL team(full time), no idea why he is even being brought up, cause Forbort will be playing top pairing minutes in Manchester(unless he falls off the map).

113 NCAA games Derek was a + 34....That's pretty impressive considering Matt Greene was even in College, Scuds was only a +5 (similar games played).

 

[Jason Lewis]

I agree ^

Forbort will be fine, Again it will be his first year in the AHL playing men. He will Struggle.

That first round was screwed up cause Lombardi simply picked Forbort. The most talented player left was Tarasenko.

If Forbort manages to make the Kings and be a top Four guy, I would be happy with that.

Also I don't get it when people say he has not progressed.

Derek looks like a different player to me, I watched him live when the Kings drafted him, a UND game (friend attends school there) also Both development camps.

Caught one Manchester game, he looks different on the ice too me, makes proper reads, moves the puck faster, his Skating is a lot better.

The Kings signed him, had he not progressed at all, They wouldn't have bothered with a Contract (like Gibson).

Also Teubert couldn't even make the AHL team(full time), no idea why he is even being brought up, cause Forbort will be playing top pairing minutes in Manchester(unless he falls off the map).

113 NCAA games Derek was a + 34....That's pretty impressive considering Matt Greene was even in College, Scuds was only a +5 (similar games played).

So true. Tarasenko and Justin Faulk. At 15 there was little to no one left.

 

[seen em all]

This x10000. Forbort is an absolute GLARING omission and really should have topped the list. To me, this is a make or break year for Derek. He hasn't progressed one bit. If he has four years of no progress, I'd be ready to throw in the towel on him as a prospect.

What`s your take on Sabourin?