Prospect Info: Prospect Rating #4 (2024 Version)

[Randy Butternubs]

Pickering won a close #3.

Vote for who you think is the Penguins #4 prospect.

Poll closes in 2-4 days, unless voting is not close.


Results so far:

#1 Yager 92.6% (called early)
#2 Blomqvist 70.9% (called early)
#3 Pickering 55.7% (asked people to change votes to avoid a runoff)

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[Gurglesons]

Murashov.

 

[SEALBound]

I think this will be another close one between Koivunen and Murashov. It's hard because, like with Pickering, it's two different positions, and there's a lot of reasons to be hopeful. I want to see Murashov in NA first to get a better idea, so I hope in a year or two, I can look at this post and absolutely eat crow on him. Went with Koivunen. Then Murashov. Then Ponomarov. That said, Pono is likely the most NHL ready but potential-wise, I think Koi/Mura are higher IF they reach potential.

 

[Andy99]

I think this will be another close one between Koivunen and Murashov. It's hard because, like with Pickering, it's two different positions, and there's a lot of reasons to be hopeful. I want to see Murashov in NA first to get a better idea, so I hope in a year or two, I can look at this post and absolutely eat crow on him. Went with Koivunen. Then Murashov. Then Ponomarov. That said, Pono is likely the most NHL ready but potential-wise, I think Koi/Mura are higher IF they reach potential.

Neither Murashov nor Koivunen has been seen much on NA ice…Koivunen had a couple games in Wilkes and seemed slow imo, which is why I went with Murashov…but both have higher ceilings than Pono…I would pick Broz lol but he has no chance in this poll…I’ll likely go back to picking him after Murashov as I think he’s a better prospect than Pono and has a better chance than Koivunen of making an impact sooner…

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Murashov, add Swanson

 

[T1K]

Koivunen has a high floor

 

[Randy Butternubs]

If Murashov wins I will be adding Gauthier to the list.

Swanson will be added too, regardless of who wins. Who are some other suggestions to add?

Also, are we considering Ludvig to be a prospect? I do but want some other input. He only just turned 24 today (HBD!) and doesn't have that much NHL time.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Koivunen for me.

Add Kangas or Swanson

If Murashov wins I will be adding Gauthier to the list.

Swanson will be added too, regardless of who wins. Who are some other suggestions to add?

Also, are we considering Ludvig to be a prospect? I do but want some other input. He only just turned 24 today (HBD!) and doesn't have that much NHL time.

Kangas, Belliveau, Tankov, Foster

 

[Jdodd]

Shocked Pickering was voted 3rd.. I think he could easily be our next Poulin as far as 1st round busts. I know they can all bust, but I don’t see anything great except for height.

 

[DrDangles]

Koivunen should be the de-facto #4 after the last poll

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Koivunen should be the de-facto #4 after the last poll

I can see that argument but I don't agree.

Plus we're not in any rush to get these polls done.

 

[eXile3]

Shocked Pickering was voted 3rd.. I think he could easily be our next Poulin as far as 1st round busts. I know they can all bust, but I don’t see anything great except for height.

I mean and his skating and puck handling.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Just out of curiosity what makes a player like Koivunen (meh numbers in a garbo league... nothing-much AHL numbers) or two goaltending prospects which is the most volatile position in the sport better than Pickering? I'm not being contentious just curious as to the rationale.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Also, are we considering Ludvig to be a prospect? I do but want some other input. He only just turned 24 today (HBD!) and doesn't have that much NHL time.

If he didn't get hurt last season he would've gotten a lot more games and minutes. Not sure what your requirements are, but based on his projected games/minutes last season I wouldn't include him.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Ponomarev for me

Just out of curiosity what makes a player like Koivunen (meh numbers in a garbo league... nothing-much AHL numbers) or two goaltending prospects which is the most volatile position in the sport better than Pickering? I'm not being contentious just curious as to the rationale.

Koivunen’s numbers weren’t meh, just remains to be seen if they will translate to NA.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I dunno. 28 in 52 would have been really good years ago for a kid his age. But Liiga doesn't seem like it is what it once was. I suppose you have to at least give the nod that he's competing against full grown men. But the talent level there seems extremely suspect. Trust me... I hope he really breaks out.

 

[Tom Hanks]

If he didn't get hurt last season he would've gotten a lot more games and minutes. Not sure what your requirements are, but based on his projected games/minutes last season I wouldn't include him.

But he did. So projections on what could have happened shouldn’t count in terms of development. He doesn’t have a lot of AHL games either (74 games)

 

[DesertPenguin]

Excited to see at least 8 guys I think are trending towards making the show.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

But he did. So projections on what could have happened shouldn’t count in terms of development. He doesn’t have a lot of AHL games either (74 games)

Eh. For me he made the team last season, so an incoming 24 year-old who made the NHL isn't a prospect anymore. But obviously others' mileage varies and that's fine.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

Eh. For me he made the team last season, so an incoming 24 year-old who made the NHL isn't a prospect anymore. But obviously others' mileage varies and that's fine.

Ludvig isn’t Calder eligible either. 33 games in one season seems like a graduation to me. I’d prefer St Ivany and Gruden in the polls before Ludvig I think.

 

[Gurglesons]

lokomotiv15 not voting for Murashov is a crime

I dunno. 28 in 52 would have been really good years ago for a kid his age. But Liiga doesn't seem like it is what it once was. I suppose you have to at least give the nod that he's competing against full grown men. But the talent level there seems extremely suspect. Trust me... I hope he really breaks out.

He had 56 pts in 59 games this year.

6th overall in the league.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

He had 56 pts in 59 games this year.

6th overall in the league.

Ugh... I was looking at the wrong year my bad. Kinda popping in and out while I should be working... I'll blame it on that.

PPGish is a heck of a lot better of a statline, yeah.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

But he did. So projections on what could have happened shouldn’t count in terms of development. He doesn’t have a lot of AHL games either (74 games)

No Calder eligibility and he was in the NHL for the whole year besides a conditionining assignment. More than Puustinen.

I’d count he and Puustinen as graduated IMO.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

Add Kalle Kangas, he’s been a monster at the summer showcase.

 

[Malkinstheman]

@Randy Butternubs do you think guys like Lindgren, Calvert etc should be part of these polls as well? Not technically Pens prospects since they're signed by WBS.