Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are now Americans. (Take vicious shots at Royal Family on Oprah)

[John Price]

Bunk Moreland seems pretty upset.

 

[John Price]

According to Bunk we shouldn't care about anything other than the pandemic

Listen you know as a Wire man I love Bunk Moreland but I do not agree here. I also do not agree with people callous enough to think "it's the royals or HAS BEEN ROYALS / RICH ELITISTS who cares" well guess what the royals are people just like you and me. They may be richer but they are still people. To ignore former royal Meghan's plight is pretty insensitive. She went on Oprah unpaid without any payment at all to confess that she had mental problems stemming from the abuse suffered at the hands of the TOXIC British Media like Piers Morgan (who has since quit his job at Good Morning Britain) and the Royal Family who tried to interfere in heirship just because her baby...gasp...might be black. Do you know how insensitive that sounds?

Rich people and athletes have mental problems too. A few MLB players have come forward with depression and other mental issues. Should they be shamed? Oh they're just rich people. They don't matter. Just throw money at their issues and it'll go away. No, it doesn't work like that.

We should stop this stigma about how depression and mental anguish doesn't apply to the rich or the "royals". Meghan was HOUNDED by the media OBSESSED with her (and STILL is obsessed based on the trove of shit in the tabloids following the interview...she's not a royal anymore, why so obsessed with smearing her?)

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Who gives a shit about these 2 idiots. Don't you people have more important things to care about?

 

[ItsFineImFine]

Although I couldn't care less about either of these two, I'm glad it's brought on a bit more anti-Royal sentiment. f*** the Queen and monarchists.

Embarassing enough we still have that old hag on our currency.

 

[Siamese Dream]

Who gives a shit about these 2 idiots. Don't you people have more important things to care about?

As tedious as the whole family drama side of it is, if you look at the bigger picture it's important because it could cause the unravelling of the entire system and have serious constitutional ramifications. That's if enough of the public decide to take Meghan and Harry's side and decide enough is enough and we've had enough of the monarchy. They're only allowed to still exist as a constitutional monarchy because we the people have let them and haven't decided to guillotine them like in France.

Even though in practical terms the monarchy does not have a lot of power and the government has theoretical democratic legitimacy, one can't really exist without the other because of the way all the laws are written. If the monarchy were to suddenly collapse, we would literally be left without a government because even though we voted for them, Boris Johnson's government's legal legitimacy to exist relies upon the Queen giving them permission, even if it is effectively only a rubber stamp.

 

[John Price]

 

[John Price]

 

[Albatros]

As tedious as the whole family drama side of it is, if you look at the bigger picture it's important because it could cause the unravelling of the entire system and have serious constitutional ramifications. That's if enough of the public decide to take Meghan and Harry's side and decide enough is enough and we've had enough of the monarchy. They're only allowed to still exist as a constitutional monarchy because we the people have let them and haven't decided to guillotine them like in France.

Even though in practical terms the monarchy does not have a lot of power and the government has theoretical democratic legitimacy, one can't really exist without the other because of the way all the laws are written. If the monarchy were to suddenly collapse, we would literally be left without a government because even though we voted for them, Boris Johnson's government's legal legitimacy to exist relies upon the Queen giving them permission, even if it is effectively only a rubber stamp.

Also monarchy itself could be legally dissolved with royal consent though. Of course writing a republican constitution would be quite a challenge for the UK.

 

[Siamese Dream]

Also monarchy itself could be legally dissolved with royal consent though. Of course writing a republican constitution would be quite a challenge for the UK.

Exactly, this is why it's interesting to follow if you're a politics nerd

It's not all about the reality TV family drama

Quite an ignorant comment from Crypto, there

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Privilege defined.

 

[John Price]

Privilege defined.

WE ALL DID stupid stuff as a kid

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Prince Harry is the only royal I have much respect for anymore. And his wife Meghan. Most of them are clowns, and some of them are alright.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

WE ALL DID stupid stuff as a kid

He was a grown man. He was 20, the age when he entered the military.

The excuses people make for this couple is just cult-like

 

[PanthersPens62]

He was a grown man. He was 20, the age when he entered the military.

The excuses people make for this couple is just cult-like

Aw come on now.....I'm Jewish & always took this as an unfortunate act of immaturity. Harry was always a bit of a wild child but he settled down & matured & learned from his mis-steps. There is no way I believe Harry supports Nazi stuff.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Aw come on now.....I'm Jewish.

Me too.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Me too.

Ok so I understand why you feel the way you do & respect your opinion. I will just agree to disagree on this one.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Also monarchy itself could be legally dissolved with royal consent though. Of course writing a republican constitution would be quite a challenge for the UK.

The royals are more than willing to make certain concessions as long as their land holdings remain.

It's for the money and political distraction they continue to exist. Perhaps with some "closet influence" as part of the exchange.

Charles probably would have made the monarchy a dead entity already because he apparently made it clear he wanted in on the political action but his mother was blessed with a long life.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Did you hear the one about PM going into a pub to meet his Royal friends.

Here is the footage:

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Ok so I understand why you feel the way you do & respect your opinion. I will just agree to disagree on this one.

What amazes me is that people can't see both points.

The very idea of a Royal Family is awful.

But Harry and Meghan wanted everything the Royal Family could give them while acting offended by them. She wants to "live authentically" in their $15 million home that they could only afford because they are royalty.

While one obviously is evil on a grand scale, the other is gross on what should be a small scale. But due to the cult of celebrity, it's amplified and indictive of where we are with how we worship celebrity.

 

[PanthersPens62]

Meghan and Harry interview: Prince William says royals are 'very much not a racist family' - CNN

Well, I guess if Prince William says so, it must be true.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Meghan and Harry interview: Prince William says royals are 'very much not a racist family' - CNN

Well, I guess if Prince William says so, it must be true.

Well, William broke tradition by marrying a commoner.

 

[NyQuil]

But see, I don't believe she was in it for the status or the $$$$.....its not like she was some poor girl from the streets.....she was an established Hollywood starlet already making millions.

Sounds like they can pay for security then like literally every other celebrity family in California.

When they originally came to Canada to "flee the paparazzi" and "escape the Royal life", I think people were supportive. I know I was.

Then it was that they wanted their security paid for by the Canadian government, e.g. the Canadian taxpayer, and Canadians were not supportive of that.

If they had been here in some official capacity, performing some role for the country, that perception might have differed.

I was a bit dubious when they then decided to move to the most paparazzi-infested location on the planet, and that somehow this is a more secure location.

I've no doubt that Meghan was not always treated fairly by the Firm, a situation that no doubt extended to Kate and Diana and others who married into the family. The degree of racism she personally encountered is likely something that will be debated.

I do know that the Queen has developed and supported the Commonwealth of nations for her entire life, which is a largely black community, so the accusation that they are all inherently racist puzzles me.

Harry's previous relationship with Chelsy Davy ended because she did not want to live the life of a Royal. It was clear to her what the expectations were, and she chose not to live that life.

For the record, I think the idea of a monarchy is archaic and ridiculous. The main reason I'm against abolishing it in Canada is the headache of what will replace it here as Head of State.

But I also think that Meghan wanted to have her cake and eat it too. They were financially cut off from benefitting from being Royals when they willingly chose to abdicate their responsibilities.

Trying to profit and merchandise on "Duke and Duchess of Sussex" for their own private gain without giving back in return in accordance with the requirements of the office is precisely the kind of thing that the Windsor family has to be cognizant of because the optics of a wealthy landowning family in symbolic control of a democratic nation is bad enough as it is.

I actually met and spoke with Princess Diana in person when I lived in Germany. She and Prince Charles were called upon to do an opening of a new wing at the British school I was attending. It certainly brightened the day of the children in the facility. To say that the Royals don't have any responsibilities is a silly argument.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Oops: The priceless racism of the Duke of Edinburgh

 

[NyQuil]

Oops: The priceless racism of the Duke of Edinburgh

My friend's grandma recently reported to me that the doorbell had rang and there was a "Chinaman" at the door.

In any event, I agree with the general point of the article that Phillip is a living relic of the class-based racism of his Imperial time.

 

[NyQuil]

Regarding security and paparazzi:

Prince Harry cited the withdrawal of security in their decision to leave Canada for the Los Angeles home of actor and producer Tyler Perry. “While we were in Canada at someone else’s house I then got told on short notice that security was going to be removed,” he said.

“Suddenly it dawned on me ‘hang on a second, the borders could be closed, we’re going to have our security removed and who knows how long lockdown is going to be? The world knows where we are, it’s not safe, it’s not secure.”

The “someone else’s house” he cited was the $14 million Vancouver Island home of music producer David Foster, a Victoria native. Foster’s wife, Katharine McPhee, studied musical theatre with Markle when they were both teenagers in Los Angeles. The home was described by at least one publication as a “Canadian fortress.”

The couple’s brief stay on the Island was notable for a lack of any security incidents, and even saw local businesses banning paparazzi from their premises in order to welcome the couple. The B.C. capital and its surroundings are notable as a clandestine hideaway for any number of the world’s rich and powerful, including Foster, Canada’s richest woman Sherry Brydson, and Shopify co-founder Scott Lake.

What Meghan Markle didn’t tell Oprah about their security being pulled | National Post