Post-Game Talk: Preseason Game 2 = win

[LowLefty]

Eyssimont has taken a step this season - he's exactly what we need in our bottom 6 and if tonight was a good indicator on what he can bring, I'd find some way of working him into the line up - the guy can skate, he's tenacious, wins his share of the one on one battles, knows how to throw a hit, and he's hard on the puck (net front, corners, everywhere).

I usually don't have much to take away from a preseason game but this kid (small sample or not) is the type of player we desperately need.
Might be a wee bit of bias here - but I love players that do a lot of the things the goal scorers don't.

 

[bustamente]

Apparently Bones doesn't want players taking minute plus shifts and then dogging it to the bench on a change

 

[Boreal]

Bones really is a breath of fresh air. We may have actually got this one right. I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

[Guardian17]

 

[SCP Guy]

Apparently Bones doesn't want players taking minute plus shifts and then dogging it to the bench on a change

Well then Bones will need to learn that’s just how we do it here

 

[Teppo Numenor]

Well then Bones will need to learn that’s just how we do it here

When guys dog it to the bench they need to miss a few shifts and show up for a bag skate.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

it's encouraging Bowness call sit like it is and speaks honestly.

However, I fear some of the vets on this team are so entitled and spoiled rotten that they won't listen. I don't think they are capable of adapting. They are too selfish. When they don't listen to Bowness, its on Chevy for keeping these spoiled rotten little brats around.

 

[Hinterland]

Pretty sure he, back in Dallas, gave Joe Pavelski, among others, several ~5 mins shifts towards the end of games until he was barely moving anymore if the score was tight. All of a sudden in Winnipeg it's a problem? Seems more like a PR stunt to tell the media who the new boss is. I understand it's just preseason and that's not the same as regular season. Still, the point remains.

 

[Jets]

Can definitely tell Bowness has told the D to be aggressive on the offensive zone pinch and to take more shots.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

it's encouraging Bowness call sit like it is and speaks honestly.

However, I fear some of the vets on this team are so entitled and spoiled rotten that they won't listen. I don't think they are capable of adapting. They are too selfish. When they don't listen to Bowness, its on Chevy for keeping these spoiled rotten little brats around.

I think it works as a saving face thing for the vets. Can’t argue with long shifts being a bad thing. Vets can blame prior coaches for all the problems.

 

[EXTRAS]

How did limoges look

 

[hockeyarena]

How did limoges look

Meh

 

[surixon]

Well once again it's preseason so need to keep these results in perspective. Vets will do what they feel they need to to get ready as much as the fans may not always like it.

I once again liked our aggressiveness and shape in the nz and Oz. Our forecheck was real good we looked to have an actual breakout strategy.

After seeing a game of our top 6 I still am not liking the configuration much. Granted it's preseason but many of the things I thought would be issues were. The top line has three players who all want to have the puck on their stick. I felt this pretty much rendered Mark as the support player tonight as Fly and KFC had the puck most of the time. Perhaps they work this out better moving forward but I feel we can't afford to have any of those three playing a largely supporting role on a line.

The second line was interesting to watch. Perfetti essentially made that line his and started Imposing his will on the game but he didn't have a forward who knew where to get open infront of the net. He was essentially playing the role Blake has traditionally played on the line and I think Blake is going to have learn to adapt his game to adapt to Cole. He was still making largely playmaking routes tonight. Dubois will help but I think we need to rejig the lines a bit to get better balance and overlap of skills.

Players:

Of the vets, Morrissey and Conner looked fairly sharp and engaged. The rest had various levels of rust/engagement, they just need to be ready for puck drop.

Cole was once again excellent. His play off the puck was very good again and forces turnovers and low percentage plays with his positioning and timing. He flashed a tonne of skill in traffic tonight and what I liked is he wasn't looking to defer to the vet in Wheeler. He was imposing his will on the game. He's going to be an excellent player sooner then later.

Heinola: Had a rough first half of the game but then settled and started making better reads all over the ice. He was activating at the appropriate times, he was moving the puck with poise and assertiveness. Also was happy with his gap and his physical play. He is one player who really reads well off of Cole. I think he's given himself the early lead for that last spot.

Lundmark I felt acquitted himself quite well tonight. He played his usual steady game and moved the puck smartly. There is some elements of DeMelo in his play.

Samberg was very meh, he was not moving the puck all that well and was just so so in his end. He is going to need to be much better moving forward to win that spot.

The Moose line was all hungry and played their hearts out. Torgoson with perhaps the best game of his life. He was doing everything he needs to do be successful. He was hard on pucks, using his size to both separate pucks and to shield pucks. He then got open and used his good shot. He's earned himself another game but he should go down and get lots of minutes and reps in order to get consistent playing this type of game. He's got skills we need though.

Essymont making a strong case for the fourth line.

 

[jefferoni]

 

[bennylundholm]

Listening to Bowness' post game on CJOB.

He's really good at giving direct answers about what we did wrong.

"Shifts are too long resulting in playing slow."

"The veterans cannot be the issue, the veterans need to lead the way."

"Lots of bad habits."

55

 

[surixon]

I've been saying this for at least 4 years now. The Jets top line has been playing long slow shifts for years and PM tolerated it and if you go by the presser where he complemented them for it he even encouraged it. It's also going to cause locker room issues if your leaders are encouraged to do things other players get benched for.

Old habits die hard. I'm glad he's on it right from the beginning.

 

[nabby12]

After tonight, it's more obvious the Jets need to get rid of the dead weight in the Bottom 6, like Harkins and Toninato who are nothing more than warm bodies at this point. And bring in some new faces that can play.

Connor Scheifele Ehlers
Perfetti Dubois Wheeler
Maenalanen Lowry Appleton
Stenlund Gustafsson Gagner
Barron/Eyssimont
Torgersson/Harkins/Toninato

Morrissey Demelo
Dillon Pionk
Heinola Schmidt
Samberg

Hellebuyck
Rittich

 

[Jetsfan79]

Someone posted on Twitter I believe it was hockey stats cards - the game stats including TOI. Didnt see a single forward go over 20 minutes. And most of the 3rd and fourth liners were over 12 minutes. Schiefele and company have definitely been guilty of long shifts in the past . But was it really the case tonight? The distribution of TOI seemed more balanced than usual I thought. Isn't it normal that the 1st line play 5-7 minutes more than the bottom 6?

 

[voyageur]

Eyssimont has taken a step this season - he's exactly what we need in our bottom 6 and if tonight was a good indicator on what he can bring, I'd find some way of working him into the line up - the guy can skate, he's tenacious, wins his share of the one on one battles, knows how to throw a hit, and he's hard on the puck (net front, corners, everywhere).

I usually don't have much to take away from a preseason game but this kid (small sample or not) is the type of player we desperately need.
Might be a wee bit of bias here - but I love players that do a lot of the things the goal scorers don't.

I think a lot of people thought our depth at LW wasn't there this season, but now even with Barron not playing, there's some good competition between Mäenalanen, Eyssimont and Torgersson. I like all 3 of their games Mäenalanen and Torgersson have no trouble finishing checks, and Eyssimont is a buzzsaw out there. Honestly I'd be happy to see all 3 make the lineup, at the expense of Harkins, with Barron still waiver eligible, if he needs to get up to speed. Torgersson probably gets demoted, but if you keep scoring goals makes it hard on the coach to take him out of the lineup.

The one thing I took away from this game is Heinola and Perfetti have a pretty synchronized game, they were able to make plays. I just wonder if Heinola keeps showing well, if the Jets would consider moving Schmidt right out of TC. PP goals are a good way to win games.

It sure is nice to see hockey back in Winnipeg.

 

[ecolad]

Well once again it's preseason so need to keep these results in perspective. Vets will do what they feel they need to to get ready as much as the fans may not always like it.

I once again liked our aggressiveness and shape in the nz and Oz. Our forecheck was real good we looked to have an actual breakout strategy.

After seeing a game of our top 6 I still am not liking the configuration much. Granted it's preseason but many of the things I thought would be issues were. The top line has three players who all want to have the puck on their stick. I felt this pretty much rendered Mark as support player tonight as Fly and KFC had the puck moat of the time. Perhaps they work this out better moving forward but I feel we can't afford to have any of the three as largely supporting pieces.

The second line was interesting to watch. Perfetti essentially made that line his and started Imposing his will on the game but he didn't have a forward who knew where to get open infront of the net. He was essentially playing the role Blake has traditionally played on the line and I think Blake is going to have learn to adapt his game to adapt to Cole. He was still making largely playmaking routes tonight. Dubois will help but I think we need to rejig the lines a bit to get better balance and overlap of skills.

Players:

Of the vets, Morrissey and Conner looked fairly sharp and engaged. The rest had various levels of rust/engagement, they just need to be ready for puck drop.

Cole was once again excellent. His play off the puck was very good again and forces turnovers and low percentage plays with his positioning and timing. He flashed a tonne of skill in traffic tonight and what I liked is he wasn't looking to defer to the vet in Wheeler. He was imposing his will on the game. He's going Tobe an excellent player sooner then later.

Heinola: Had a rough first half of the game but then settled and started making better reads all over the ice. He was activating at the appropriate times, he was moving the ouck with poise and assertiveness. Also was happy with his gap and his physical play. He is one player who really reads well off of Cole. I think he's given himself the early lead for that last spot.

Landmark I felt acquitted himself quite well tonight. He p,aged his usual steady game and moved the puck smartly. There is some elements of DeMelo in his play.

Samberg was very meh, he was not moving the puck all that well and was just so sk in his end. He is going to need to be much better moving forward to win that spot.

The Moose line was all hungry and played their hearts out. Torgoson with perhaps the best game of his life. He was doing everything he needs to do be successful. He was hard on pucks, using his size to both separate oucks and to shield pucks. He the got open and used his good shot. He's earned himself another game but he should go down and get lots of minutes and reps informer to get consistent playing this type of game. He's got skills we need though.

Essymont making a strong case for the fourth line.

Good observations. I wholeheartedly agree with your thinking that the top two lines as currently configured will not prove to be optimal. Will be interesting to see how the coach`s see this as TC pares down to something approximating a season starting lineup... .

I too was quite disappointed with the play of Samberg tonight. He looked very uncertain/insecure out there at times and generally didn`t show well. Maybe just needs extra time to learn and adjust to the new instructions.

 

[surixon]

Good observations. I wholeheartedly agree with your thinking that the top two lines as currently configured will not prove to be optimal. Will be interesting to see how the coach`s see this as TC pares down to something approximating a season starting lineup... .

I too was quite disappointed with the play of Samberg tonight. He looked very uncertain/insecure out there at times and generally didn`t show well. Maybe just needs extra time to learn and adjust to the new instructions.

Yeah it will be interesting to see how things onfold. This org needs to do a bit better job copying best practices. If you look around the league very few of the best top lines have all three of the teams best forwards on it. Most good teams know there is only one puck and recognize the need to maximize puck touches. Those teams often have two elite but complimentary players with s third piece that can excel in a role where they don't see as much of the puck.

Marner Mathews Bunting
Guntzel Crosby Rackel
Palat Point Kucherov
Drai McDavid Kane

Colorado once again is the trend buster but Landeskog plays more of a grinding game where he doesn't need as many puck touches so it works on the same philosophy.

 

[raideralex99]

Pretty sure he, back in Dallas, gave Joe Pavelski, among others, several ~5 mins shifts towards the end of games until he was barely moving anymore if the score was tight. All of a sudden in Winnipeg it's a problem? Seems more like a PR stunt to tell the media who the new boss is. I understand it's just preseason and that's not the same as regular season. Still, the point remains.

Are you sure?
Check your facts first. I did a quick check on the last 5 games of the regular season ... Pavelski NEVER played 20 mins in any game and they were all close games in fact 2 of them even went into OT. Only one forward went over 20 mins and that was because they played the full 5 min OT.
Top 6 averaged 17-18 mins and bottom 6 ... 11-14 mins in a 60 min game.
No PR stunt just telling the truth ... everyone on this board knows about the long shifts of 55 & 26 and how it was hurting the team. Maurice is gone now do you really think a new coach who took a team to the SC Finals is going to allow this **** to continue?

 

[Jets 31]

Nice home preseason win for the fans, now we dance.

 

[Hinterland]

Are you sure?
Check your facts first. I did a quick check on the last 5 games of the regular season ... Pavelski NEVER played 20 mins in any game and they were all close games in fact 2 of them even went into OT. Only one forward went over 20 mins and that was because they played the full 5 min OT.
Top 6 averaged 17-18 mins and bottom 6 ... 11-14 mins in a 60 min game.
No PR stunt just telling the truth ... everyone on this board knows about the long shifts of 55 & 26 and how it was hurting the team. Maurice is gone now do you really think a new coach who took a team to the SC Finals is going to allow this **** to continue?

Of course I'm sure. I watch a lot of hockey. Bowness is known for rolling three lines here and then or for leaning heavily on the same group late in games and you looking at 5 games doesn't mean anything. Feel free to ask the Dallas board. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here but still. I found it funny that of all people Bowness was talking about shift lenghts.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Love what Bowness is doing. It's just unfortutane that this comes 4 years too late. So many years with good rosters gone to waste