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Even though couple of loses against B squads, I like where Celebrini and Smith are going. If they dominate it's a bonus. I would have hoped a little more from the vets, but I guess chemistry is not quite there yet. There will be more cuts and we'll see a more complete team compete against more complete teams that will help to figure out what to work on. It's gonna be a long season, but I hope they start executing on the details to start building an identity.
 

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Will Smith scored more points, he was not the better player, he wasn't even the best centerman on his own team

Celebrini scored 7 fewer points in 3 fewer games while actually shouldering 1C responsibilities and playing with a true defensive conscience, he had much less advantageous deployment than Smith who spent the entire season playing under Cutter Gauthier who finished 2nd in league scoring while Celebrini's highest scoring teammate was tied for 11th, Celebrini absolutely deserved the award as much as anyone else, he did more with less
Will Smith was the best centerman on his team? Turns out you it's more important to outscore/chance your opponent than to have a true "defensive conscience".

I guess it is a matter of opinion though, Celebrini joined a team that won 29 games and massively improved them to a 28 win team while Smith helped take a team that won 14 games the previous year and won 34.
 

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Will Smith was the best centerman on his team? Turns out you it's more important to outscore/chance your opponent than to have a true "defensive conscience".

I guess it is a matter of opinion though, Celebrini joined a team that won 29 games and massively improved them to a 28 win team while Smith helped take a team that won 14 games the previous year and won 34.
It's a massive oversimplification of the large scale roster turnover that NCAA teams experience year over year to say the difference between the 23 and 24 seasons was those two players joining their respective teams

BC added Smith's entire line from the US national developmental program, for instance, it wasn't just adding one guy that changed their team
 

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It's a massive oversimplification of the large scale roster turnover that NCAA teams experience year over year to say the difference between the 23 and 24 seasons was those two players joining their respective teams

BC added Smith's entire line from the US national developmental program, for instance, it wasn't just adding one guy that changed their team
Sounds like a pretty good line, is it possible that was also their best line?
 

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Sounds like a pretty good line, is it possible that was also their best line?
It was, it was also their 2nd line that got deployed against 2nd tier competition at even strength while the Gauthier line was tasked with hard-matching opponents' top units, a luxury Celebrini was not afforded while crushing his minutes as the youngest player in the league
 

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It was, it was also their 2nd line that got deployed against 2nd tier competition at even strength while the Gauthier line was tasked with hard-matching opponents' top units, a luxury Celebrini was not afforded while crushing his minutes as the youngest player in the league

Sounds like a pretty good line, is it possible that was also their best line?

(Just so you both know --- in 2033 when we win the stanley cup with both of them, I'm going to quote this argument about who should have won the hobey baker 10 years prior. --- carry on)
 

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Walman is going to take out a lot of opposing players with his point shot. He stung 2 ducks players pretty good in a 15 second timespan. Nice to have someone with a cannon from the blue line this year.
I think he also is underrated at moving the puck. He's not a wizard with it, but there's a clear difference between him and all the other veteran defensemen when it comes to handling and passing the puck. Of course, that's a low bar to clear.
 
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LilLeeroy

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It was, it was also their 2nd line that got deployed against 2nd tier competition at even strength while the Gauthier line was tasked with hard-matching opponents' top units, a luxury Celebrini was not afforded while crushing his minutes as the youngest player in the league
Maybe BU's other players would have looked a little better if Celebrini wasn't so puck dominant? Smith is a lot like Curry as a ceiling raiser while Celebrini is more of a Westbrook floor raiser. Both very good players.
 

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Even though couple of loses against B squads, I like where Celebrini and Smith are going. If they dominate it's a bonus. I would have hoped a little more from the vets, but I guess chemistry is not quite there yet. There will be more cuts and we'll see a more complete team compete against more complete teams that will help to figure out what to work on. It's gonna be a long season, but I hope they start executing on the details to start building an identity.
To be fair, we rolled out 2 B squads ourselves.
 

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