GDT: Preseason Game 2: Red Wings vs chicago 9/27/24 7:00 pm et

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DTR

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Are you thinking of Maatta?

Chiarot was 2nd in TOI/G among defensemen, 1st in ES, 3rd in PK. He had 64% defensive zone starts.

He wasn't sheltered.

my phrasing could have been better. His best run of play last year came in sheltered minutes when he and Holl were together. His pairings with Petry and Seider were both very bad.
 

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my phrasing could have been better. His best run of play last year came in sheltered minutes when he and Holl were together. His pairings with Petry and Seider were both very bad.

Like I said in another post, he's playing above where he would ideally be slotted. If he played Holl and Maatta's usage, he'd look like the best Dman not named Seider.
 

Nut Upstrom

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From what I saw, Wallinder looked terrific. I remain much higher on him than others it seems. Even the organization rarely mention him.
I dont think that anyone is really down on him, most seem to have high hopes that he'll develop into something special. Seems one of those rare instances where he was drafted as a bit of a long term project and fans are, uncharacteristically, being patient in the hopes he'll reach his potential. I suppose there are enough other prospects commanding the spotlight and frustrations of fans so Wallinder is flying a bit under the radar.
I liked what I saw in this game, but I was not watching all that intently.
 

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From what I saw, Wallinder looked terrific. I remain much higher on him than others it seems. Even the organization rarely mention him.
You're not the only one, i said in 2020 after the draft that Wings just got one of the biggest steals in that draft. I had Wallinder going in the 1st round, #20 overall but luckily for us, a bunch of GMs didn't see the forrest from the trees. Wallinder has had the tools to become a 1st pair D in NHL but he's been a long term project from day 1. I remember that i said, it is going to take 5-6 years before he plays his first NHL game. So far he's been on that track, this season in a big role in GR and next season he gets his first games. And starts in Detroit 2026-27.
 
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Nut Upstrom

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You're not the only one, i said in 2020 after the draft that Wings just got one of the biggest steals in that draft. I had Wallinder going in the 1st round, #20 overall but luckily for us, a bunch of GMs didn't see the forrest from the trees. Wallinder has had the tools to become a 1st pair D in NHL but he's been a long term project from day 1. I remember that i said, it is going to take 5-6 years before he plays his first NHL game. So far he's been on that track, this season in a big role in GR and next season he gets his first games. And starts in Detroit 2026-27.
Hoping you're right. A strong showing in these preseason games would be a nice step in that direction for him.
 

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