Post-Game Talk: prepare for apathy to set in: Jets lose in SO 4-3 to Avs

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Andy6

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Central teams have feasted on points when they play us.

13-1-2 (28 out of 32 pts) It's amazing we are not further behind the playoff line. If only we didn't have to play games in our own division? :sarcasm

Well, we've played a top-heavy representation of Central teams so far. And, other than Chicago, we've played them all very evenly. The three games against St. Louis and two against Colorado (not to mention the ones against the Wild) could all have easily gone either way. It's just bad luck that a few more tight games haven't turned into wins. Nothing more to it than that.
 

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I'd just like to add that, by scoring his 11th point last night, Scheifele has now surpassed the entire meager offensive output from last season of the Jets previous 3rd line center, and has done so in 11 fewer games played. He appears to be rounding more and more into form on a nightly basis (as others have also stated here) and clearly is gaining self-confidence by the minute. I have a sneaky suspicion that one of these nights he will post a multi-goal game (a specialty of his in junior) and will never look back from that point. The coaching staff is also obviously gaining confidence in his abilities as well as he played near 20 minutes last night. It isn't a coincidence that his appearance on the pp has coincided with improved play from that unit; he played 5:33 in pp time last night.

Watch out...advanced stats incoming! ;)

On Scheifele...I wonder if he is falling as frequently as we think he is, or whether we're just experiencing observation bias.
 

HannuJ

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i'm busy imagining Ellerby out and Bogo in, and (next season) Morrissey in and Stuart out.

shhhh
 

King Woodballs

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I'd just like to add that, by scoring his 11th point last night, Scheifele has now surpassed the entire meager offensive output from last season of the Jets previous 3rd line center, and has done so in 11 fewer games played. He appears to be rounding more and more into form on a nightly basis (as others have also stated here) and clearly is gaining self-confidence by the minute. I have a sneaky suspicion that one of these nights he will post a multi-goal game (a specialty of his in junior) and will never look back from that point. The coaching staff is also obviously gaining confidence in his abilities as well as he played near 20 minutes last night. It isn't a coincidence that his appearance on the pp has coincided with improved play from that unit; he played 5:33 in pp time last night.

Trouba represents a significant upgrade on D as well, and played approximately 26 minutes last night. The kid is a beast and is ready to replace Buff on the #1 pair. Hopefully they can eventually acquire a big shutdown LHD to run alongside Trouba on a future #1 shutdown D pair.

Antropov right? :sarcasm:
 

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I'd just like to add that, by scoring his 11th point last night, Scheifele has now surpassed the entire meager offensive output from last season of the Jets previous 3rd line center, and has done so in 11 fewer games played. He appears to be rounding more and more into form on a nightly basis (as others have also stated here) and clearly is gaining self-confidence by the minute. I have a sneaky suspicion that one of these nights he will post a multi-goal game (a specialty of his in junior) and will never look back from that point. The coaching staff is also obviously gaining confidence in his abilities as well as he played near 20 minutes last night. It isn't a coincidence that his appearance on the pp has coincided with improved play from that unit; he played 5:33 in pp time last night.

Trouba represents a significant upgrade on D as well, and played approximately 26 minutes last night. The kid is a beast and is ready to replace Buff on the #1 pair. Hopefully they can eventually acquire a big shutdown LHD to run alongside Trouba on a future #1 shutdown D pair.

Scheifele has looked more and more dangerous each and every game with the puck on his stick. I don't know if some "reins" have been lifted, if he's getting more confidence, or both. He is better with the puck on his stick than almost everyone on the team. The fact that the team put him on the point on the #2 PP, and DESIGNED the zone entry around him carrying it in, speaks volumes to what they think of him IMO. He was also on in overtime at the same time as Trouba.

Trouba, yeah, what else needs to be said?
 

JetsHomer

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As a certified big Burmi fan, even I'd rather have Scheifele than him, and I think most would agree. Except maybe Garret :sarcasm:

Scheifele is simply miles ahead of Burmi with the puck, but still behind Burmi's play without it. Scheifele has first line NHL potential, Burmi doesn't have that kind of offensive upside. I could see Scheifele getting 30 goals one day, I'll be surprised if Burmi ever gets 15. I'd still rather have both on the team than one or the other. I think their playstyles would actually compliment each other fairly well.
 

Duke749

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I would like to point out a couple things. One which I have yet to see mentioned. First, Scheifele seems to make quite the difference on the PP. Second, that 3rd goal happened because Wheeler was parked in front of the net. Good to see both of those things.
 

DarthMonty

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3. Heaven forbid a business try and make money! That's insane! Don't you know EVERY NHL team exists solely to bring championships, rainbows, and good cheer to the city it exists in? They're Not For Profits aren't they!?

This, right here. Good god, people, the Jets NEED to make make money, because the universe will look very ugly when the Jets pack up and leave for a locale that will allow them a profit.

My business needs to make a profit, even if it's small, because that's how we invest in the future and upgrade and/or replace worn out equipment. I don't begrudge a business any profits, because that's how free market capitalism works. There's no defining too much profit, and if a person decides a business is making too much (???) their recourse is to do business elsewhere, and allow the market to impose a correction.

The Jets need to build on the infrastructure and add more assets and profit generating centers; it will allow the team to survive some lean years, and prosper in good times. The more TNSE adds to the portfolio, the longer the Jets look to stay. I willingly pay usurious rates for tickets and beers and merchandise, because that's the cost of the team staying in the smallest market in the league. If a Jets customer (not fan, as that is something entirely different) decides that beer is too expensive, or that the team needs to terminate the coach, it's up to the customer(s) to make all this known to the team through various methods. If you don't like the pricing, stop buying. If you don't like the coach, be vocal at games and in correspondence with the team. Write letters to the editor, call in the radio shows, contact the team - the onus is on the customer to criticize and complain.

Me? I want the team to stay. I've already purchased more merch from Jets2.0 in three years than I bought in the 24 years we had Jets1.0. We will buy season tickets as soon as they're offered, at whatever price. If I feel the team is not doing good by me, I will complain, loudly, repeatedly, to TNSE. That is my right, and obligation, as the customer.

But to complain about the Jets making a profit, or complaining about the organization's ventures into other businesses and teams is very short-sighted, in my view. The Jets need to be the equal or better of other teams, because the margin for error in a city this small is very narrow.
 

sipowicz

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As a certified big Burmi fan, even I'd rather have Scheifele than him, and I think most would agree. Except maybe Garret :sarcasm:

Scheifele is simply miles ahead of Burmi with the puck, but still behind Burmi's play without it. Scheifele has first line NHL potential, Burmi doesn't have that kind of offensive upside. I could see Scheifele getting 30 goals one day, I'll be surprised if Burmi ever gets 15. I'd still rather have both on the team than one or the other. I think their playstyles would actually compliment each other fairly well.

Come on Burmi is a KHL star, he sits 6th on his team in goal scoring in a league laden with great ECHL-AHL talent. What a player!:sarcasm:
 
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