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Saw that Michael Biehn is in it. Does that complete his trifecta of getting killed by a Terminator, Xenomorph, and Yautja after Bill Paxton and Lance Henriksen?
 
That trailer doesn't do much for me, really not a fan of that animation style.
 
This is the best thing since the original. Absolutely better than Prey and I liked it.
 
TCTC said:
I just can't take animated content seriously. It works for comedy like South Park or Simpsons. But for serious content I need real actors.
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Serious question, why? When I talk to some of my friends who have similar perspective they say it’s because they can’t suspend disbelief while watching it (paraphrasing)

But then how do you do it for live action? Like that’s obviously Brad Pitt playing a character. Why is harder to do the same with well crafted animated characters and stories?

It’s a shame because animated content has been 10x better than any live action recently because they don’t have as many budget constraints and more creativity.
 
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Serious question, why? When I talk to some of my friends who have similar perspective they say it’s because they can’t suspend disbelief while watching it (paraphrasing)

But then how do you do it for live action? Like that’s obviously Brad Pitt playing a character. Why is harder to do the same with well crafted animated characters and stories?

It’s a shame because animated content has been 10x better than any live action recently because they don’t have as many budget constraints and more creativity.
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I don't know, I find it hard to get invested in the characters when they're not "real people". Sure, you can create emotions in animation, but I think a lot of the subtleties get lost. So yeah, I think I can relate to the suspend disbelief argument of your friends.

It's probably also the lack of rules in animation. You can create literally anything on a computer. In live action movies you always know there's at least laws of physics and to me that makes it more relatable.

I think it's a bit similar to live action that uses too much CGI. At some point it just loses its heart and soul.

But at the end of the day I guess it's just preference.
 
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I'll be watching this one once Im done with Andor. Pretty psyched. I dont mind animated series that are dramatic. Invincible proved to me it can be done well. It's not easy to pull off, though.
 
I watched it last night. If you're looking for animated action, violence and gore in the Predator universe, it delivers. If you're looking for more than that, you may be disappointed.

It's very formulaic. Trachtenberg took Prey and did the same thing in three more historical time periods, but shortened to 20 minutes each. On one hand, he gave a lot of fans more of what they wanted, which is commendable. On the other, not much creativity went into it and there isn't a lot of time for storytelling with the vast majority of each segment being devoted to action.

For me, the first half of the movie is the better half because it's more serious and mature and slightly more believable. The second half was largely ruined for me by the teenage pilot who doesn't stop talking, even to himself and to point out the obvious to others, and learns everything very quickly, even how to operate alien technology. He made the second half feel more like a cartoon targeting teens than the more serious animated movie targeted at adult Predator fans that the first half felt like.

This is more subjective, but I didn't like the animation, which is 3D rendered, then filtered to look more like hand-drawn 2D, kind of like the Borderlands games. I'm just not a fan of that and would've preferred either unfiltered 3D or hand-drawn 2D. Also unpleasant to me was the jerkiness of the animation, which I'm guessing was to try to emulate hand-drawn animation even more.

Anyways, I didn't hate it, but didn't love it, either. That's similar to how I felt about Prey. I imagine that this'll probably really appeal to anyone who liked Prey and probably not to anyone who didn't.
 
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I watched it last night. If you're looking for animated action, violence and gore in the Predator universe, it delivers. If you're looking for more than that, you may be disappointed.

It's very formulaic. Trachtenberg took Prey and did the same thing in three more historical time periods, but shortened to 20 minutes each. On one hand, he gave a lot of fans more of what they wanted, which is commendable. On the other, not much creativity went into it and there isn't a lot of time for storytelling with the vast majority of each segment being devoted to action.

For me, the first half of the movie is the better half because it's more serious and mature and slightly more believable. The second half was largely ruined for me by the teenage pilot who doesn't stop talking, even to himself and to point out the obvious to others, and learns everything very quickly, even how to operate alien technology. He made the second half feel more like a cartoon targeting teens than the more serious animated movie targeted at adult Predator fans that the first half felt like.

This is more subjective, but I didn't like the animation, which is 3D rendered, then filtered to look more like hand-drawn 2D, kind of like the Borderlands games. I'm just not a fan of that and would've preferred either unfiltered 3D or hand-drawn 2D. Also unpleasant to me was the jerkiness of the animation, which I'm guessing was to try to emulate hand-drawn animation even more.

Anyways, I didn't hate it, but didn't love it, either. That's similar to how I felt about Prey. I imagine that this'll probably really appeal to anyone who liked Prey and probably not to anyone who didn't.
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The whole movie was done using Unreal Engine 5.

Seems to be most people:

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Can someone please explain the wrap around story for me?

In Predators (2010), the Yautja kidnap some of the world's deadliest soldiers and hunt them for sport. This makes sense and fits their character motivation.

In Killer of Killers, they kidnap three specific people, separated by hundreds of years, and hold them in suspended animation. When they wake them up, the Yautja instruct them to kill each other, and the victor will fight the Predator King. If our heroes don't comply, the tethers on their necks will explode.

That leads me to my question: how does this make any goddamn sense?

Why keep these three people in suspended animation (in some cases for centuries)? Why go through all of that trouble to then wake them up and instruct them to kill each other? Why are the Yautja, a predator species, trapping their prey in a stadium to fight in some Gladiator-esque BS?

Please help me. Because, as far as I can tell, Trachtenberg is going off the rails with the Predator lore (and general logic).

I thought Prey's narrative had issues, but Killer of Killers is much more problematic.
 
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Can someone please explain the wrap around story for me?

In Predators (2010), the Yautja kidnap some of the world's deadliest soldiers and hunt them for sport. This makes sense and fits their character motivation.

In Killer of Killers, they kidnap three specific people, separated by hundreds of years, and hold them in suspended animation. When they wake them up, the Yautja instruct them to kill each other, and the victor will fight the Predator King. If our heroes don't comply, the tethers on their necks will explode.

That leads me to my question: how does this make any goddamn sense?

Why keep these three people in suspended animation (in some cases for centuries)? Why go through all of that trouble to then wake them up and instruct them to kill each other? Why are the Yautja, a predator species, trapping their prey in a stadium to fight in some Gladiator-esque BS?

Please help me. Because, as far as I can tell, Trachtenberg is going off the rails with the Predator lore (and general logic).

I thought Prey's narrative had issues, but Killer of Killers is much more problematic.
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Because anyone who kills one their species is considered a worthy warrior of sorts. Didn't Predator 2 already show this type of stuff?
 
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Because anyone who kills one their species is considered a worthy warrior of sorts. Didn't Predator 2 already show this type of stuff?
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If you're talking about the ending of Predator 2, Killer of Killers flies in the face of that also. After Harrigan kills the City Hunter, the Yautja let him go.

But that's beside the point. It doesn't really have anything to do with my question(s), which is/are why would the Predators capture these three specific people, keep them in suspended animation for decades, and then wake them up to duke it out in a pay-per-view event?

The Predators have always hunted for sport and to collect trophies. The end of the film is essentially shooting fish in a barrel.
 
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If you're talking about the ending of Predator 2, Killer of Killers flies in the face of that also. After Harrigan kills the City Hunter, the Yautja let him go.

But that's beside the point. It doesn't really have anything to do with my question(s), which is/are why would the Predators capture these three specific people, keep them in suspended animation for decades, and then wake them up to duke it out in a pay-per-view event?

The Predators have always hunted for sport and to collect trophies. The end of the film is essentially shooting fish in a barrel.
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For entertainment AND sport. I assume Badlands will go more into them, but I would think the "king" changes quite often and some habits too.
 
shadow1 said:
If you're talking about the ending of Predator 2, Killer of Killers flies in the face of that also. After Harrigan kills the City Hunter, the Yautja let him go.

But that's beside the point. It doesn't really have anything to do with my question(s), which is/are why would the Predators capture these three specific people, keep them in suspended animation for decades, and then wake them up to duke it out in a pay-per-view event?

The Predators have always hunted for sport and to collect trophies. The end of the film is essentially shooting fish in a barrel.
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If the final part of Killer of Killers takes place before Predator 2 then what occurs in this movie could lead to what occurs at the end of 2. Maybe another Predator King decides to do away with capturing people who kill hunters and instead let them go free?
 
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For entertainment AND sport. I assume Badlands will go more into them, but I would think the "king" changes quite often and some habits too.
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The fact that this practice has been maintained for over a thousand years suggests a society with leadership styles and customs that don't change much over time. If they suddenly change now to be in line with previous Predator lore, then that emphasizes how inconsistent it is.
 
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