GDT: Pre-Season LA Kings vs Anaheim Ducks @7:00pm 10/3/23

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He's really not.

And he hasn't stopped shit from happening.
KP - this repeated concept that a goon would prevent things like that slash on DD is a fallacy.. i dont think anyone is suggesting that. Having a a guy like Englund softens up the other team with hits and he will throw down if necessary.. there is value in agitation and the guy that polices things a bit and becomes the lightning rod for negative energy. Ideally you package that into a guy that can play like Wilson or Gudas... obv the Kings could not afford something like that. I wouldnt mind if he made the team over TB.
 
Shut your mouth before I kiss you on the lips.
I’m assuming you’re referencing this…

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KP - this repeated concept that a goon would prevent things like that slash on DD is a fallacy.. i dont think anyone is suggesting that. Having a a guy like Englund softens up the other team with hits and he will throw down if necessary.. there is value in agitation and the guy that polices things a bit and becomes the lightning rod for negative energy. Ideally you package that into a guy that can play like Wilson or Gudas... obv the Kings could not afford something like that. I wouldnt mind if he made the team over TB.
I agree 100%. I'm all for team toughness and want to have the team more assertive. It's part of the reason why I'm so high on Ziemmer - he's tough but also skilled.

But there's a narrative JU has put forth that the absence of low-talent enforcers like Englund will stop the teams from playing tough against the Kings.

Bjornfot hasn't had the best camps, but I disagree he's played worse than Englund. Englund tilts the scale in his favor more for providing toughness that Bjornfot doesn't. But it won't be because the Kings "need" Englund. They "need" Bjornfot to play better and he just hasn't separated himself from Englund enough on performance alone.
 
I agree 100%. I'm all for team toughness and want to have the team more assertive. It's part of the reason why I'm so high on Ziemmer - he's tough but also skilled.

But there's a narrative JU has put forth that the absence of low-talent enforcers like Englund will stop the teams from playing tough against the Kings.

Bjornfot hasn't had the best camps, but I disagree he's played worse than Englund. Englund tilts the scale in his favor more for providing toughness that Bjornfot doesn't. But it won't be because the Kings "need" Englund. They "need" Bjornfot to play better and he just hasn't separated himself from Englund enough on performance alone.
Got it - im not comparing them directly really. TB cant bring that element that Englund can. You have to factor in that if a fight does need to happen, it will end up being Kempe or PLD who will sit for 5. Having Englund in the box for 5 might improve the team overall. So there is that aspect too.
 
It's pretty much been proven that enforcers don't prevent cheap shots / injury.

I think most of us are in agreement that we want size/toughness, but the players who bring it have to actually be good at hockey.

I still think Englund could potentially be a plenty serviceable 3LD while bringing those attributes. We'll see.
 
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It's pretty much been proven that enforcers don't prevent cheap shots / injury.

I think most of us are in agreement that we want size/toughness, but the players who bring it have to actually be good at hockey.

I still think Englund could potentially be a plenty serviceable 3LD while brining those attributes. We'll see.
Kinda all we need from the 3LD. I don't know if they can platoon both with our cap issues.
 
This is where I wish my boy Helenius was 1-2 years older and 15-20 pounds heavier.

Imagine Helenius and Englund. Big nasty Swedes.

Mark my words - he will be a King in the next 1-2 seasons.
 
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Another year of the literal worst streaming service on the planet. I’m signed into the Bally Sports app on my phone, computer, and TV. I paid for Bally Sports Plus. I can’t watch the game. As soon as I sign in, all mention of the game is gone.

This is where I wish my boy Helenius was 1-2 years older and 15-20 pounds heavier.

Imagine Helenius and Englund. Big nasty Swedes.

Mark my words - he will be a King in the next 1-2 seasons.

Johnny’s out here dreaming of big Swedish men I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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