Buffalo Bills Post-Draft Discussion

What position do you want the Bills to draft round 1?

  • RB

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • WR / TE

    Votes: 36 60.0%
  • OL

    Votes: 4 6.7%
  • DL

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • LB

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • CB

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • S

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Trade out of first round

    Votes: 14 23.3%

  • Total voters
    60

Jim Bob

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There was a post earlier in the thread I'm having a hard time finding. It showed what the Bills have for 2025 draft picks. I think it included projected compensatory picks.

I'm tracking the Bills have:
1st
2nd (Houston)
2nd
3rd
4th (Chicago)
4th
5th
6th (Giants)

Is that right? Thanks in advance!

The extra 2nd is Minnesota's pick.

They do not have their 5th.

They have their 6th and the Giants' 6th.

And OTC is projecting they get a 4th round comp pick for Davis and a 5th round comp pick for Floyd. But as we learned this year, actual results will vary...
 

Rowley Birkin

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The thing I like about this class is that there is a path for so many of these guys to contribute early on. Even some of the day 3 guys.

Coleman is easy as he seems to be the likely starter at the X WR spot replacing Davis.

Bishop is at worst S3 and a big time STs guy. But, given how early they took him, they might see him as the guy replacing Poyer and not Rapp. Although, I could see that transition happening mid-season.

Carter is going to get 30%+ of the snaps at DT if he is healthy all year.

Davis is going to be RB3 and the primary short yardage RB at worst in all likelihood. But, he will be battling for RB2 and a significant number of snaps with Ty Johnson.

Van Pran-Granger could be a backup at C and perhaps G. Or, he could look so good that they keep McGovern at LG and SVPG is the guy that replaces Morse in the starting lineup.

Ulofoshio is going to be a STs maniac and a guy that is battling to be a primary backup to TB.

Solomon is going to be a pass rush specialist from the drop.

Hardy has a shot at earning a roster spot as the PR, maybe the KR with the new rules, and as a backup slot CB behind TJ.

Grable and Clayton are the PS OL projects and the only guys without a clear path to making the 53 man roster, IMO.
Nailed it. And Clayton won't count against any of the normal roster limits, while he also won't be able to be sniped by another team if he doesn't make the final roster.

So when the only pick in ten you can grumble about is a R6 developmental lineman who you might lose for nothing - I'd call that a pretty solid draft.
 

Dubi Doo

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Nailed it. And Clayton won't count against any of the normal roster limits, while he also won't be able to be sniped by another team if he doesn't make the final roster.

So when the only pick in ten you can grumble about is a R6 developmental lineman who you might lose for nothing - I'd call that a pretty solid draft.
The more I let this draft resonate, the more I like it. It provided much needed depth in areas and gives us a few players who can become impact guys. My biggest gripe was with Beane's strategy, but it seems to have worked out well.
 

Jim Bob

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Nailed it. And Clayton won't count against any of the normal roster limits, while he also won't be able to be sniped by another team if he doesn't make the final roster.

So when the only pick in ten you can grumble about is a R6 developmental lineman who you might lose for nothing - I'd call that a pretty solid draft.
Yeah, Sal C had an Instagram post about people's favorite and least favorite picks. I went with Carter as my favorite pick and it was hard to come up with a pick I didn't like to some level.

I went with Grable over Clayton because of the extra PS slot for Clayton. When your least favorite pick is a 6th round developmental OL, it's a decent draft class.
 
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ValJamesDuex

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There was a post earlier in the thread I'm having a hard time finding. It showed what the Bills have for 2025 draft picks. I think it included projected compensatory picks.

I'm tracking the Bills have:
1st
2nd (Houston)
2nd
3rd
4th (Chicago)
4th
5th
6th (Giants)

Is that right? Thanks in advance!
Looks right, some have said they "should " also be in line for 4th round compensation pick as of now with the FA formula.
 
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Selanne00008

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There was a post earlier in the thread I'm having a hard time finding. It showed what the Bills have for 2025 draft picks. I think it included projected compensatory picks.

I'm tracking the Bills have:
1st
2nd (Houston)
2nd
3rd
4th (Chicago)
4th
5th
6th (Giants)

Is that right? Thanks in advance!
As Dingo mentioned, the 2nd is the Vikings, so really hoping they finish dead last in a tough NFC North. I'd actually project that they do so. Top 40 pick?

Someone posted an X of GregCover1 as he had a list. It added a Comp pick in the 4th, 5th and 6th.

But, I believe the Bills 5th went to Houston in the Diggs trade. And the 7th went to the Giants in the Basham trade.

From what I was reading, we should expect the 4th (G. Davis) and 5th round comp (Floyd) picks. The 6th is up in the air as to if we would qualify (Would have been for Dane Jackson leaving, but might wash out with Curtis Samuel signing here).

Looking at:

1st Round- Bills
2nd Round - Vikings
2nd Round - Bills
3rd Round - Bills
4th Round- Bears
4th Round - Bills
4th Round- Expected Comp pick (Davis)
5th Round- Expected Comp pick(Floyd)
6th Round- Giants
6th Round - Bills

10 picks, with 7 coming in the first 4 rounds.
 

Der Jaeger

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As Dingo mentioned, the 2nd is the Vikings, so really hoping they finish dead last in a tough NFC North. I'd actually project that they do so. Top 40 pick?

Someone posted an X of GregCover1 as he had a list. It added a Comp pick in the 4th, 5th and 6th.

But, I believe the Bills 5th went to Houston in the Diggs trade. And the 7th went to the Giants in the Basham trade.

From what I was reading, we should expect the 4th (G. Davis) and 5th round comp (Floyd) picks. The 6th is up in the air as to if we would qualify (Would have been for Dane Jackson leaving, but might wash out with Curtis Samuel signing here).

Looking at:

1st Round- Bills
2nd Round - Vikings
2nd Round - Bills
3rd Round - Bills
4th Round- Bears
4th Round - Bills
4th Round- Expected Comp pick (Davis)
5th Round- Expected Comp pick(Floyd)
6th Round- Giants
6th Round - Bills

10 picks, with 7 coming in the first 4 rounds.
Thanks all for the help with this. This is how you accelerated a full team reboot.

1st Round- Bills
2nd Round - Vikings
2nd Round - Bills
3rd Round - Bills
4th Round- Bears
4th Round - Bills
4th Round- Expected Comp pick (Davis)
5th Round- Expected Comp pick(Floyd)
6th Round- Giants
6th Round - Bills
 

Der Jaeger

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I made my comment about Corleone tongue-in-cheek. But he's a pure 1DT with most of his snaps coming in the A gaps. Stackhouse went 50/50 last season at 1DT and 3DT.
 

Dubi Doo

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Thanks all for the help with this. This is how you accelerated a full team reboot.

1st Round- Bills
2nd Round - Vikings
2nd Round - Bills
3rd Round - Bills
4th Round- Bears
4th Round - Bills
4th Round- Expected Comp pick (Davis)
5th Round- Expected Comp pick(Floyd)
6th Round- Giants
6th Round - Bills
It's nice that we still have a good shot of being a top team in our reboot year. Having a franchise QB + good management is so much fun. A lot of teams may get hot for a few years (if at all) then fade away (Tenn is a good example), but a team with an elite QB + good management and coaching, we can just retool on the fly and barely miss a step.

If this is supposed to be our year of suffering, then I'm a happy man because I don't see much suffering in the forecast after looking at the roster. It's possible we're a better team this year than last year, though a lot depends on the play of the O line and if the defense can gel (I'm not all that worried about the D with McD overseeing them).

I also think a full year of Brady is going to make a big difference. The way he was coaching to end the year- relying on the run game, spreading the ball around, etc...just seems like it'll lead to sustainable winning unlike Dorsey who seemed a bit overwhelmed in the role.
 

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It's nice that we still have a good shot of being a top team in our reboot year. Having a franchise QB + good management is so much fun. A lot of teams may get hot for a few years (if at all) then fade away (Tenn is a good example), but a team with an elite QB + good management and coaching, we can just retool on the fly and barely miss a step.

If this is supposed to be our year of suffering, then I'm a happy man because I don't see much suffering in the forecast after looking at the roster. It's possible we're a better team this year than last year, though a lot depends on the play of the O line and if the defense can gel (I'm not all that worried about the D with McD overseeing them).

I also think a full year of Brady is going to make a big difference. The way he was coaching to end the year- relying on the run game, spreading the ball around, etc...just seems like it'll lead to sustainable winning unlike Dorsey who seemed a bit overwhelmed in the role.
Not to mention we’re a month away from an extra $10M in cap space and a long way from the trade deadline. If the team makes a couple more key additions and stays healthy we should be in great shape now and in the future.
 
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Schopp, White, Parker, these guys all have to go. I can't listen to WGR for any amount of time because of them. I used to listen for Sal, Brown and Tasker. But now, I don't even get a chance to see if they're on or about to come on, because within two to five minutes I've already tuned out.

Today, Parker was talking about how he thinks this team has become a paper tiger because we don't have a "homerun" hitter. Jesus christ, the prime of an NFL player lasts three to five years - tops. No one has that guy until the season begins to play itself out, and you find out you do. Everyone else has unrealized magic beans or marked up faded glory jeans.

And the complete lack of respect for The Salary Cap is astounding. I'm sorry everyone wants the best roster in the league every year, on paper, but it doesn't work like that. The economics dictate that every team is going to be dismantled in due time. It's all about how your GM manages the turnover between cycles, and right now Beane's doing a fantastic job of it.

If you disagree with how Beane's doing, because this roster doesn't have the star power that it did, I'm sorry you're not smarter. I'm sorry you can't figure out that the best team in the offseason virtually never wins the Super Bowl. That you can't figure out injuries matter. The first seed matters. The schedule in May does not. That SOS is dynamic, and changes on an almost weekly basis. Etc.

It's just infuriating that these people get paid to talk about sports, but bring nothing to the table outside of fantasy football advice and hot dog reviews. I wish I could get paid to be so inept.
 
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Dubi Doo

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Have you guys ever been talking to someone, they make a statement, you both respond at the same time while nodding at eachother assuming youre going to say the same thing, then you say two totally different opinions?

It happened to me today while talking about Coleman. My manager said 'Have you seen him in interviews?'. I thought for sure he was going to say 'he seems like a cool guy', so I blabber out 'Oh yeah, he seems like a cool guy' as he said 'he seems pretty immature and weird'. Pretty sure both of our eyebrows lowered as we side eyed eachother wondering what the hell just happened.
 

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Schopp, White, Parker, these guys all have to go. I can't listen to WGR for any amount of time because of them. I used to listen for Sal, Brown and Tasker. But now, I don't even get a chance to see if they're on or about to come on, because within two to five minutes I've already tuned out.

Today, Parker was talking about how he thinks this team has become a paper tiger because we don't have a "homerun" hitter. Jesus christ, the prime of an NFL player lasts three to five years - tops. No one has that guy until the season begins to play itself out, and you find out you do. Everyone else has unrealized magic beans or marked up faded glory jeans.

And the complete lack of respect for The Salary Cap is astounding. I'm sorry everyone wants the best roster in the league every year, on paper, but it doesn't work like that. The economics dictate that every team is going to be dismantled in due time. It's all about how your GM manages the turnover between cycles, and right now Beane's doing a fantastic job of it.

If you disagree with how Beane's doing, because this roster doesn't have the star power that it did, I'm sorry you're not smarter. I'm sorry you can't figure out that the best team in the offseason virtually never wins the Super Bowl. That you can't figure out injuries matter. The first seed matters. The schedule in May does not. That SOS is dynamic, and changes on an almost weekly basis.

It's just infuriating that these people get paid to talk about sports, but bring nothing to the table outside of fantasy football advice and hot dog reviews. I wish I could get paid to be so inept.
The whole network could use a clean slate
 

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Schopp, White, Parker, these guys all have to go. I can't listen to WGR for any amount of time because of them. I used to listen for Sal, Brown and Tasker. But now, I don't even get a chance to see if they're on or about to come on, because within two to five minutes I've already tuned out.

Today, Parker was talking about how he thinks this team has become a paper tiger because we don't have a "homerun" hitter. Jesus christ, the prime of an NFL player lasts three to five years - tops. No one has that guy until the season begins to play itself out, and you find out you do. Everyone else has unrealized magic beans or marked up faded glory jeans.

And the complete lack of respect for The Salary Cap is astounding. I'm sorry everyone wants the best roster in the league every year, on paper, but it doesn't work like that. The economics dictate that every team is going to be dismantled in due time. It's all about how your GM manages the turnover between cycles, and right now Beane's doing a fantastic job of it.

If you disagree with how Beane's doing, because this roster doesn't have the star power that it did, I'm sorry you're not smarter. I'm sorry you can't figure out that the best team in the offseason virtually never wins the Super Bowl. That you can't figure out injuries matter. The first seed matters. The schedule in May does not. That SOS is dynamic, and changes on an almost weekly basis. Etc.

It's just infuriating that these people get paid to talk about sports, but bring nothing to the table outside of fantasy football advice and hot dog reviews. I wish I could get paid to be so inept.
This thought line is a result of fantasy football and video games.

KC and New England have won for years using a tight end as the primary target, and developing lesser prospects into better receivers. Sure, Edelman was a "home run hitter." But he was a 7th round pick who Belichick selected as a special teamer.

KC lost Hill and won 2 Super Bowls without him.

The requirements to win a Super Bowl are: good owner, good GM, good head coach, franchise QB.

IF you have those 4, then you can build the team many different ways and still win a Super Bowl.
 

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