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Would you be happy if the NYR swapped Kravtsov for Dylan Strome?

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brakeyawself

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So only a day after this upsetting Kravtsov saga comes out, the Hawks sit Dylan Strome.

I and others seem to think there is a possibility Drury is talking to Chicago to swap Kravtsov for Dylan Strome.

Rangers all ready have his brother Ryan obviously, could definitely use another top 9 center and now basically, unfortunately, need to trade Kravtsov.

Regardless of who you blame, Kravtsov, the organization or both, do you think Dylan Strome would be a good return for Kravtsov?

Personally he seems more like a 3C than 2C to me. But with Ryan, that could still work. Maybe Chytil moves to RW or Ryan plays on Dylan's RW.

Dylan obviously hasn't reached the potential many thought he would, often looks slow on the ice, but has produced at times with Chicago.

I would much rather not trade Kravtsov at all, as I still see him as a future top 6 winger. Plausibly with an eventual offensive upside surpassing even Kakko at this point. And Kravtsov was great insurance if either Laf or Kakko fail to live up to expectations. Which right now, is not out of the realm of possibility given how they have progressed, especially offensively.

And I just don't think Strome has the skills and ability we really want in return for Kravtsov. I would be happier with someone like Kupari or a young center with more upside.

So, how would you feel about the Rangers getting Strome?

I think personally we should go for a younger center with higher potential, if that's possible. All though with how this situation was handled, Kravtsov's trade value right now is probably at an all time low.
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brakeyawself said:
So only a day after this upsetting Kravtsov saga comes out, the Hawks sit Dylan Strome.

I and others seem to think there is a possibility Drury is talking to Chicago to swap Kravtsov for Dylan Strome.

Rangers all ready have his brother Ryan obviously, could definitely use another top 9 center and now basically, unfortunately, need to trade Kravtsov.

Regardless of who you blame, Kravtsov, the organization or both, do you think Dylan Strome would be a good return for Kravtsov?

Personally he seems more like a 3C than 2C to me. But with Ryan, that could still work. Maybe Chytil moves to RW or Ryan plays on Dylan's RW.

Dylan obviously hasn't reached the potential many thought he would, often looks slow on the ice, but has produced at times with Chicago.

I would much rather not trade Kravtsov at all, as I still see him as a future top 6 winger. Plausibly with an eventual offensive upside surpassing even Kakko at this point. And Kravtsov was great insurance if either Laf or Kakko fail to live up to expectations. Which right now, is not out of the realm of possibility given how they have progressed, especially offensively.

And I just don't think Strome has the skills and ability we really want in return for Kravtsov. I would be happier with someone like Kupari or a young center with more upside.

So, how would you feel about the Rangers getting Strome?

I think personally we should go for a younger center with higher potential, if that's possible. All though with how this situation was handled, Kravtsov's trade value right now is probably at an all time low.
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hell no

Kravtsov value only temporarily tanked

Trade Strome/Hajek and we have roster spot

let him play and all will be fine

We are not trading younger for older
that is bad in every way incl as to cap mgmt
 
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bernmeister said:
hell no

Kravtsov value only temporarily tanked

Trade Strome/Hajek and we have roster spot

let him play and all will be fine

We are not trading younger for older
that is bad in every way incl as to cap mgmt
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Well, I completely agree with you about such a trade.

However, I don't believe this part is true at all: "We are not trading younger for older".

I think there is a very good chance Drury does trade younger for older. And while I agree that it wouldn't be a good cap move, I am not even sure what they'd have to adjust to make it work, that doesn't mean that Drury and the upper management wouldn't do such a thing.

With the moves Drury has made since arriving and the various gaffs this franchise has made in the past decade, this seems to be exactly the type of thing this franchise WOULD do. Which in itself is worrying, but their track record isn't exactly glowing.

But yea, unfortunately, I think it is way, way more possible than I would prefer.
 
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brakeyawself said:
Well, I completely agree with you about such a trade.

However, I don't believe this part is true at all: "We are not trading younger for older".

I think there is a very good chance Drury does trade younger for older. And while I agree that it wouldn't be a good cap move, I am not even sure what they'd have to adjust to make it work, that doesn't mean that Drury and the upper management wouldn't do such a thing.

With the moves Drury has made since arriving and the various gaffs this franchise has made in the past decade, this seems to be exactly the type of thing this franchise WOULD do. Which in itself is worrying, but their track record isn't exactly glowing.

But yea, unfortunately, I think it is way, way more possible than I would prefer.
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You are right, they COULD go that way.

But #s say smart thing to do is stay young = cheaper quality = deeper team more flexible w/roster given cap
 
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Where would Strome play? He's not taking his brother's spot, so is he pushing Chytil out?

He's an RFA next year, with a 3.6 mil QO. We don't need that QO on the books when we are trying to sign Fox and Kakko, and if Strome does well, he's going to want more than that, which we can't afford.
 
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I have to say also, this would seemingly make a ton of sense for Chicago, who could use a winger prospect of his caliber. Maybe they would put him in the A for a short while, but otherwise I could see him slipping right into the Hawks top 9, or even top 6.

Moving Strome, would probably mean Toews as 1C and Dach getting moved up to 2C. Or vice versa depending on if they feel Dach is that ready. I guess they could then play Borgstrom at 3C, as he's probably more suited to play center anyway.

And really, outside of Kane and Debrincat who are 1st liners, the only wingers he would have contend with are Kurashev, Kubalik, Hagel and Khaira. That's not exactly the most secure bunch. But even if he started out on the 3rd line, I think there would be a good chance, if he plays well of course, that he would move up to the 2nd line at some point during the season, moving Kurashev or Kubalik to line 3.

Well, from a Chicago perspective, I think it makes a lot of sense.

And yea, they did invest a ton into this team to win now. Or try to win now and for the next few years while they still have Toews and Kane. And while Kravtsov might need some time to adjust, he's pretty much an NHL ready player. So I don't think their playoff hopes would clash with using Kravtsov somewhere in the middle 6 right now.

From a Ranger perspective, it's much worse. However, unfortunately, these are the types of moves I have come to expect from this club.

And as far as the cap goes, maybe Chicago would have to eat some of his cap hit, or take someone we want to get rid off of our hands to open cap space. And while I think it's still not a good idea and would bad for the cap long term, possibly also meaning we then extend Ryan Strome, it's totally something I can see the Rangers doing. It would align perfectly with other moves and cap decisions Ranger upper management have been making for some years now.
 
GAGLine said:
Where would Strome play? He's not taking his brother's spot, so is he pushing Chytil out?

He's an RFA next year, with a 3.6 mil QO. We don't need that QO on the books when we are trying to sign Fox and Kakko, and if Strome does well, he's going to want more than that, which we can't afford.
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Where would he play? There's two options and both are completely reasonable.

He plays 2C or 2RW with Ryan at 2C or 2RW. Or he plays 3C or 3RW and Chytil stays at 3C or 3RW. Chytil needs someone that can take faceoffs on his line if he's playing center and either Ryan or Dylan would fit that to a tee. And I really see no issue, unfortunately, I think Dylan would slip right into the top 9 with no problem, as would pretty much any top 9 center/forward at this point.

And then Groodrow and/or Blais would fit more into the 4th line, where they probably would be at their best. I am not sure at who's expense Dylan's theoretical arrival would be at, but I don't think there is any issue finding him a spot in the lineup.

The cap is a different issue. And yes, both Dylan and Ryan are FA's after the season. Dylan a RFA and Ryan I think a UFA. And I do fear that extending one would mean extending the other.

However, we have seen this club make poor cap choices in the past and very recently, so it wouldn't be out of character. And who knows really what they are thinking half the time. Drury's decisions thus far have mostly been either mediocre or mind boggling to me. And I don't know if that cap situation would be something that automatically prevents this from happening.Hawks could eat some of the cap hit or theoretically take another salary/player off our hands. No clue who that would be though.

Maybe we get rid of Miller because we have the superstar Libor Hajek who they clearly love and refuse to waive. Even though Hajek doesn't deserve to be in the AHL, let alone the NHL.

And Strome has size and you know, the Tom Wilson mind virus seems to still be effecting every decision Drury and the team make.
 
HockeyBasedNYC said:
I'd go for a kid like Leblanc whos from the area. He's on the block and cost controlled for 3 years
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If you had said Meier maybe, but Leblanc? The defender? Or do you mean Labanc? Either way, Kevin Labanc if that is who you were referring to, also doesn't have close to the upside we should be looking at.

Meier would be a different story. While I still am not sure Meier will be good enough at least he does have the potential to be a physical top 6 player and is only 24.
 
brakeyawself said:
Will the Rangers wait for it to pass though? Drury doesn't exactly seem patient. I am pretty they will trade him at his lowest value, without waiting for that value to rise again.
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Yes,
we do not have impending cap issue there is ZERO basis for them to not wait so as to avoid giving away a 9OA selection
2ish wks once rosters settle which is only now starting is not too long to wait
 
bernmeister said:
Yes,
we do not have impending cap issue there is ZERO basis for them to not wait so as to avoid giving away a 9OA selection
2ish wks once rosters settle which is only now starting is not too long to wait
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His value decays the longer he goes without playing. He’s not playing in the NHL or the AHL …
 
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