Player Discussion Poll: Which Roster Players Do You Want Back

[TehDoak]

The answer is Dahlin.

After that, it just depends on the return.

I'm not interested in blowing things up for futures, but if a legit elite player becomes available, Dahlin is the only piece not on the table.

 

[michaelsaas]

Thanks to all who have responded so far (28 responses). I will probably keep it local through the weekend before reaching out to other groups. I'll share the HF results first for those interested.

One surprise glancing at results thus far. Only 4 players had 100% Want on Roster responses. And if someone were to tell me that was the case, I would not think it was the four players selected by this poll.

 

[DJN21]

Core:
Dahlin, Tage, Tuch, Zucker, McLeod, Benson, Kulich, Greener

Potential trade, but would rather keep:
OP, Peterka, Sammy, Krebs, JBD, Beck

Deal away:
Quinn, Bo

Incomplete Grade:
Norris

GTFO:
Clifton, Bryson, Lafferty

outside of the obvious he just signed here so we arent moving him...why exactly?

 

[DapperCam]

The only "core" player is Dahlin. Everybody else is fair game IMO.

The following players, I would also like to keep because I think they play a winning style of hockey:
- Benson
- McLeod
- Zucker
- Tuch


I personally wouldn't trade Quinn right now because his value is in the toilet. It would be poor asset management, and the only reason to do it would be to get him off the roster.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

outside of the obvious he just signed here so we arent moving him...why exactly?

IMHO, we need veterans and less youth. He plays an important role, though I wish he was a little more imposing and obviously health has been an issue.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

The only "core" player is Dahlin. Everybody else is fair game IMO.

The following players, I would also like to keep because I think they play a winning style of hockey:
- Benson
- McLeod
- Zucker
- Tuch


I personally wouldn't trade Quinn right now because his value is in the toilet. It would be poor asset management, and the only reason to do it would be to get him off the roster.

Agreed on Quinn. If he had more value, or can be part of a larger package, might as a we'll keep him and hope he rebounds. He was saddled with shithorse for too long and deserves a fresh start.

 

[Jacob582]

I'm ok having Bryson and JBD back as long as we have a solid top 6 in front of them.

Make them earn playing time.

 

[michaelsaas]

Thanks for everyone who participated. I had 42 responses. Here are some snapshots of the responses:

Only Benson and McLeod received unanimous consent in terms of people wanting them on to stay. When I said I was surprised at the four who received 100% a few days ago the list included Dahlin and Zucker. 7 players total had 90% or more "want" responses (Benson, McLeod, Tuch, Dahlin, Zucker, Kulich, Thompson).

There was much more disagreement on who we wouldn't want on the roster. Only Bryson (76%) Samuelsson (64%) and Lafferty (52%) had higher than 50% of respondents saying they don't want them on the roster.

I also calculated a net favorability rating which shows the difference between the Percent who Want the player to stay and the percent who doesn't. I thought this might be a better way to visualize who the consensus thinks should stay (90% or higher), who should go (-%) and who is in the muddy middle.



The seven keepers mention above remain in place. The negative net fav players are Quinn (-14%), Clifton (-24%), Reimer (-24%), Lafferty (-50%), Samuelsson (-62%) and Bryson (-76% - good thing he is contract expires this season...... ...... .... D'oh!).

If anyone wants to respond you still can. But I am going to solicit responses beyond our forum now to hopefully get a larger pool of responses.

I hope you found this interesting, thanks for playing along in addition of my own genuine interest, curiosity and passion for this soul crushing franchise I also wanted to play around with basic data analysis, visualization and communication so if anyone wants to give me input/advice on that it is welcome!

 

[Zman5778]

I have absolutely zero idea how anyone could have voted "Either way" on Dahlin.

 

[michaelsaas]

I have absolutely zero idea how anyone could have voted "Either way" on Dahlin.

TBF I intentionally didn't want to get bogged down into caveats so it is up to the responder to interpret. They might be thinking they could move him for a killer package? Or maybe they hit the wrong button

 

[michaelsaas]

And now that I have widened the response pool no one has a 100 WANT score including one respondent who stated they DO NOT want Dahlin back next season

 

[Zman5778]

And now that I have widened the response pool no one has a 100 WANT score including one respondent who stated they DO NOT want Dahlin back next season

 

[Chainshot]

I have absolutely zero idea how anyone could have voted "Either way" on Dahlin.

Probably someone who is still clutching to the idea of moving him from a few years ago. Or moving him to center.

 

[Jacob582]

Sammy played much better after a horrendous start.

But the more I think about it again; I want him off this team.

Change the culture. He is still soft spoiled player.

 

[5 Minute Major]

Keep Paterka and put him with more defensively responsible players. I don’t want to give that goal scoring away…..yet.

 

[Chainshot]

So hearing Adams talk about him watching what works and what doesn't work - and after I stopped laughing at that - I come back to the Vegas defense.

They have their top guy, 2-well rounded 2-way guys, and then a bunch of folks on value deals. And they are huge and actually defend. McNabb and Whitecloud might be two of the best value deals in the league at the moment. THAT is how to copy a team and in the meantime, Buffalo has overpaid a couple of their defensemen and retained some that are just placeholders. Mostly I don't want just about anyone not named Dahlin back on defense. I know they won't turnover everyone, but the idea that they have to spend big is foolish -- they don't scout well and don't assign roles well so instead they are just a collection of guys.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I want:

Dahlin, Thompson, Tuch, Benson

I'd prefer:

Kulich, Peterka

I'd like to trade:

Power, Sameulsson, Clifton

The following have little value:

Quinn, Laferty, Mal

Everyone else is kinda meh

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I'm o-kish with Krebs and Clifton in their role . There's a lot bigger issues and the whole roster isn't going to get turned over.

 

[brian_griffin]

How far back can I use my time machine? Mid-1970's French Connection? Late 1990s Hasek.

 

[michaelsaas]

UPDATE: After opening it up to other sites (Reddit and Facebook) I had 628 responses. Here is a summary if you are interested (warning: I copied some of my previous language because I am lazy and had little time - but the data and analysis is updated).
The responses below are grouped by position (Defense, Forward, Goalie). D seems to be the area most felt need an overhaul, with only Dahlin and Power receiving more than 50% of the “Want on roster vote.” Interestingly Bernard Docker received exactly 50% and Byram was below him with the majority on the fence (Either Way 44.6%).

The forwards have much stronger clarity as to who the respondents want to keep with McLeod, Thompson, Touch, Benson, Zuker, Kulich and Peterka all receiving over 85% of the “Want on Roster Vote”. Lafferty joins Samuelsson and Bryson as the three players to have the majority of their vote total in the “Do Not Want” category.
I also calculated a net favorability rating which shows the difference between the Percent who Want the player to stay and the percent who doesn’t. I thought this might be a better way to visualize who the consensus thinks should stay (85% or higher), who should go (-%) and who is in the muddy middle.

The seven forwards mentioned above (plus Dahlin) remain in place. The net negative players are Kozak (-1%), Clifton (-16%), Reimer (-16%), Bryson (-50%), Samuelsson (-58%), and Lafferty (-63%). There are also clear drop-offs in the middling scores creating four tiers: Tier one - Norris and Power (above 60%), Tier two – Greenway, Bernard Docker (above 40%), Tier 3 – Krebs, Luukonen (above 30%) and Tier 4 – Byram, Malenstyn, Quinn (above 0%) – I was personally most surprised at the members of Tier 4, even despite Quinn’s struggles.
I hope you found this interesting, thanks for playing along. In addition to my own genuine interest, curiosity and pathological passion for this soul crushing franchise, I also wanted to play around with basic data analysis, visualization and communication so if anyone wants to give me input/advice on that, it is very welcome!