[poll] Which is the worst Benning-era transaction?

AustonsNostrils

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lol poor you guys. when the Sabres were doing a GM search the names were Jason Botterill(Pittsburgh AGM), Paul Fenton(Nashville AGM), Benning, Treliving, Tim Murray - I was scared it would be Benning. Looking at what he's done with the Canucks I was right, we dodged a bullet.

At least he's done pretty well in the draft.
 

Rotting Corpse*

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lol poor you guys. when the Sabres were doing a GM search the names were Jason Botterill(Pittsburgh AGM), Paul Fenton(Nashville AGM), Benning, Treliving, Tim Murray - I was scared it would be Benning. Looking at what he's done with the Canucks I was right, we dodged a bullet.

At least he's done pretty well in the draft.

Boeser is the only thing Benning has going for him right now, pretty much.

Guy is too talented though. Too exciting to watch. Attention *****. He won't last long.
 

Zarpan

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lol poor you guys. when the Sabres were doing a GM search the names were Jason Botterill(Pittsburgh AGM), Paul Fenton(Nashville AGM), Benning, Treliving, Tim Murray - I was scared it would be Benning. Looking at what he's done with the Canucks I was right, we dodged a bullet.

At least he's done pretty well in the draft.

Of course, he loves to trade away draft picks, which negates perhaps his only strength...
 

bossram

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Gotta pick the Gudbranson move today. Other moves were more defensible with some kind of insane logic. There is just no salvaging this.

What's worse is the plethora of options we have. Oh what a great GM we have!!!!!
 

Knight53

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So many god awful disgusting trades :laugh:

Kesler trade was the worst in terms of value we got back. But the circumstances....

McCann trade stings the most and pretty much ruined my excitement for the draft.

Shinkaruk trade.. busted up by closet out of anger.

Sutter trade made me lose brain cells. Most WTF kill me now trade. Then that extension my god.

Garrison and Vey deals were awful in terms of value but understandable.

Forsling trade is a sleeper that could haunt us for years.

2016 trade deadline.... that excitement of potentially selling for the first time in forever to help the future. ****ing woke up early as hell too only to be disappointed but it was my fault for getting my hopes up.

I'd go with the McCann trade, think it'll back fire big time.
 

Serac

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Is there a general option for all the trades where we included the kicker draft picks ?

The 3rd round pick swaps in the Kesler trade
The 2nd we gave up in the Sutter deal somehow
The 2nd and 4th we gave up in the Gudbranson deal somehow
The 5th we somehow gave up for Prust
Even a bloody 7th rounder for some reason in the Garrison trade
 

Bobby Digital

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Tough but for me the TDL. Just absolute incompetence. Just shows how dumb the guy really is. No negotiating skills and no foresight. I gave up on him along time before that but it genuinely shocked me he couldn't get back anything and we actually came out down a pick.
 

Intangibos

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I think Shinkaruk is really bad. Like could be crushing in the future. He could bust though, it's more of a trade where we gave away a pretty solid lottery ticket for nothing. Flawed understanding of risk/reward. Give up a player who could end up being an all-star, for a player who may not even be much better than Shinkaruk now, and is redundant, and waiver eligible.

That being said, I selected the Sbisa extension because it just shows he literally has no idea what he's doing or how to build a team.

Like even absolutely terrible player evaluation like the one that went on in the Shinkaruk/Granlund trade isn't as bad as thinking Sbisa is a 3.6 million dollar guy, especially in a cap world.

I didn't see the zero moves at the deadline, though. I'd probably put that above the Shinkaruk trade. Hamhuis not getting moved was bad enough, but not even taking offers on Hansen is absolutely criminal. He's possibly my favourite Canuck and I've been calling him one of the best 3rd liners in the league for years. As elite as a 3rd liner can be. But he had a great season last year and could have fetched us a fair bit at the deadline. Not only that, but while Hamhuis was excellent near the end of the season preventing us from tanking further, Hansen was lights out for several games and put us over the top in them with big goals. Absolutely crippling. Without Hamhuis and Hansen, I think we definitely fall, maybe even to 30th. Not making those moves cost us an excellent pick.

Still though. While the consequences of the Sbisa contract aren't too devastating, it just shows a complete lack of understanding of all things hockey and management. Truly terrible stuff.
 
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Pip

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Kesler trade the most damaging but Shinkaruk/Forsling deals are the worst in the way that we gave up a legitimate prospect for a replacement-level player. Sbisa and Dorsett contracts are the most brain dead moves he's made.

HM to the Miller signing

Wow, so many good options.
 

Bougieman

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Kesler handcuffed this team terribly with his stipulations on where he would go. Putting that on Benning isn't fair, which is why I didn't pick that option.
 

Canucks5551

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I'm not sure if it's the most damaging, but the one I consider most divorced from reality was the Sbisa contract extension. How Benning could watch Sbisa for nearly a full season and decide that his play was worth a raise on a long term contract is beyond me.
 

biturbo19

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Easily Shinkaruk for Granlund.

Maybe not the biggest impact trade, could well end up a trade where neither piece is a long-term NHLer even...but it's the whole principle of it that is just dumbfounding.

Shinkaruk may never even be a real NHL player (i think he can be, but irrelevant to the issue really)...but Granlund is a piece you scoop up on the cheap, as young filler to try out. Not for a younger prospect like Shinkaruk with Top-6 upside - however uncertain.

It just doesn't make any sense.
 

DCantheDDad

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Shink Granlund. It was the proverbial 50lb weight that broke the camel's back. It didn't make sense at the time and it makes even less sense now.

But man-o-man is there a lot of bad ones to choose from.
 

clunk

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Threw up in my mouth at all of the assets that the "Three Amigos" have bled....

I would rather have Keenan at this point...

As for the poll, I'll just go by what infuriated me the most..

Shink for Granlund..

Pointless, stupid, terrible trade... Which I truly believe only happened because he wasn't drafted by Benning, and Weisbrod had a hard on for Granlund from his past...

Kid wanted to be here and prove doubters wrong but what does he do? Ships him to our rival for TRASH. A player we didn't even need...

Absolute garbage.
 

Diogenes92

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Forsling for Clendening. They didn't even know what they were getting in Clendening.

How could they not know that he sucked at skating? And they didn't even know what they were giving up in Forsling.

Incompetent management in so many ways.
 

Nuckles

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My gut still says that the Kesler deal was the worst. He targeted all the wrong players and didn't even manage to get the 10th overall pick or one of Anaheim's puck movers (Vatanen/Theodore) when Kesler was still very highly valued. It also led to a bunch of other terrible moves (Sbisa extension, Bonino/Sutter trade, McCann trade).
 

Jyrki21

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It is a legitimately tough choice. I can't believe how many terrible moves there are in so short a time period.

I voted Shinkaruk, because it still seems the most inexplicable, like this prospect was burning a hole in his pocket and had to be dealt for a player unlikely to help even with the pie-in-the-sky playoff push.

I agree that Forsling may yet emerge as the worst of the bunch, though, which is sort of crazy when you think about it.
 

M2Beezy

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So many of these would be the worst for any team over the last two years. Probably about ten of them. Let that sink in. And we suffered them all :cry:
 

GailWilliams

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Sbisa contract. Absolutely unnecessary for him to get a raise after the year he had. Other contracts like Dorsett, Miller, and Sutter are overpayments but they are not insane.

Paying a guy as bad defensively as Sbisa 3.6m is insane.

However, if Forsling, Shinkaruk, or McCann go on to become legitimately good NHL players then those will likely end up being the worst. Right now all they have is potential so it`s hard to evaluate who won.
 

DL44

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The only trade that made me take a breath was dumping Forsling after his great WJR tourney..

It was tough seeing no trades at the TDL... but that was understandable.
 

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