[POLL] Is Toronto going to make it out of the first round?

[1specter]

Leafs vs Habs this year they are 1-2 with one game remaining.

Leafs vs Sens this year, they are 0-3.

You're wrong, Leafs are 2-1-0 vs Habs.

 

[Golden_Jet]

You're wrong, Leafs are 2-1-0 vs Habs.

Oops ya typed it backwards lol, will fix

 

[X66]

Leafs vs Habs this year they are 1-2 with one game remaining.

Leafs vs Sens this year, they are 0-3.

Regular season success vs a team means absolutely nothing in the playoffs.

Sens used to beat the Leafs in the regular season and lost every playoff series.

Leafs beat the Bruins in the 2017 season series

Leafs crushed the Habs in the 2021 season series

Leafs were 3-0-1 vs the Panthers in 2022

None of it matters when there are too many variables in a series.

 

[1specter]

Regular season success vs a team means absolutely nothing in the playoffs.

Sens used to beat the Leafs in the regular season and lost every playoff series.

Leafs beat the Bruins in the 2017 season series

Leafs crushed the Habs in the 2021 season series

Leafs were 3-0-1 vs the Panthers in 2022

None of it matters when there are too many variables in a series.

Panthers also got swept by Boston in the regular season last year and then made easy work of them in the playoffs.

 

[Frank Drebin]

No disrespect to the sens but i think so yes

 

[Connor MethDavid]

I have them in the ECF at a minimum. Would be mind boggling to not make it that far.

 

[koyvoo]

It’s very simple. It always has been. If their best players are able to bring their top level games in the post season, they can make a run.

If their best players are not at their very best, all the other tinkering won’t mean a thing.

 

[njdevils1982]

As of today, Leafs would play the Devils.

Devils remaining schedule - Penguins, Islanders, Bruins, Red Wings
Senators remaining schedule - Canadiens, Flyers, Hawks, Hurricanes

Sens have the harder schedule IMO. So, it's possible the Devils could leapfrog passed the Sens. Either team would pose an interesting match up for the Leafs. Sens and Devils have given up fewer goals. Devils have a very similar goal differential. Battle of Ontario vs Devils speed and winning record home and away.

I think Treliving has tried to make the Leafs harder to play against. It comes down to the big 4 though. Woll and Stolarz have been solid in the regular season. Woll's had some playoff success as a starter, but both have limited experience.

Leafs swept season series with Devils, but two games needed OT. Senators swept the season series with the Leafs.

Do I want them to win? No. Do I think they can win? Yes. Do I think they will win? If the regular season is prologue, they have a 50/50 chance.

get with the times. nothing of what you said makes sense

the devils and canes are locked in for a first round matchup

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

No, until they show at least 1 fluid oz. of jam.

 

[Fogelhund]

If Toronto has the better goaltending, forwards and defence, how have they given up more goals this year than Ottawa?

I keep hearing about this new and improved defensively-focused Leaf team and they are 12th in GA among the 16 current playoff teams.

Leafs are 4th in the league in GA 5v5. Special teams have been a challenge.

 

[NyQuil]

Leafs are 4th in the league in GA 5v5. Special teams have been a challenge.

That's a pretty huge swing on the basis of special teams.

 

[jbeck5]

They might beat Ottawa, they don't have a better goalie.

Not sure they have better defense either...

It Rielly, Ekman Larsson, McCabe, and tanev better than Sanderson, Chabot, Jensen and zub? I'm not too sure..

Rielly is having a down year...38 points and -14...then 33 year old OEL who isn't what he used to be...Jake McCabe...35 year old tanev...

I'm not saying Ottawa is better but I don't see how Toronto has the better d.

Its almost no argument that Sanderson is the best...then you could argue Chabot over Rielly this year...than it's defensive responsible d like Jensen and zub vs McCabe and tanev...

I dunno. Maybe it's the homer in me, but I take the sens D as well.

The sens have allowed less goals against than Toronto despite Toronto playing more time in the offensive zone with better offensive stars...so maybe, just maybe, Ottawa has better goalies/D.

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

Leafs vs Habs this year they are 2-1 with one game remaining.

Leafs vs Sens this year, they are 0-3.

It's 2025 and we still haven't learned that regular season means jack squat in the playoffs? For shame....

 

[Fogelhund]

Not sure they have better defense either...

It Rielly, Ekman Larsson, McCabe, and tanev better than Sanderson, Chabot, Jensen and zub? I'm not too sure..

Rielly is having a down year...38 points and -14...then 33 year old OEL who isn't what he used to be...Jake McCabe...35 year old tanev...

I'm not saying Ottawa is better but I don't see how Toronto has the better d.

Its almost no argument that Sanderson is the best...then you could argue Chabot over Rielly this year...than it's defensive responsible d like Jensen and zub vs McCabe and tanev...

I dunno. Maybe it's the homer in me, but I take the sens D as well.

The sens have allowed less goals against than Toronto despite Toronto playing more time in the offensive zone with better offensive stars...so maybe, just maybe, Ottawa has better goalies/D.

Leafs have allowed 134 goals 5v5, Sens 146. Leafs have given up too many goals with the goalie pulled, while on the PP, and marginally more on the PK>

 

[X66]

That's a pretty huge swing on the basis of special teams.

Coaching staff has also been stubborn with somethings as well. Matthews has been horrible on the PK this year but they keep throwing him out there. He's also been hurt all year so you'd think they'd ease the load a bit.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Leafs have allowed 134 goals 5v5, Sens 146. Leafs have given up too many goals with the goalie pulled, while on the PP, and marginally more on the PK>

Special teams are still part of the game in the playoffs.

 

[X66]

Leafs are 4th in the league in GA 5v5. Special teams have been a challenge.

Yep but still a big issue. There have been TONS of playoff series where we've been creamed on the special teams battle.

 

[kerrabria]

Leafs made some really good moves last summer. They've got a deep, well-rounded blueline, and one of the best Top 6 groups in the league. Matthews had the worst season of his career, and they're still 1st in the Atlantic.

The Panthers have always had their number, so I'd bet on a first round exit if Tampa Bay passes in the standings. But a collapse against Montreal/Ottawa would be insane. Different coach, much better supporting cast...I don't even know what you do at that point.

 

[kerrabria]

Not sure they have better defense either...

It Rielly, Ekman Larsson, McCabe, and tanev better than Sanderson, Chabot, Jensen and zub? I'm not too sure..

Rielly is having a down year...38 points and -14...then 33 year old OEL who isn't what he used to be...Jake McCabe...35 year old tanev...

I'm not saying Ottawa is better but I don't see how Toronto has the better d.

Its almost no argument that Sanderson is the best...then you could argue Chabot over Rielly this year...than it's defensive responsible d like Jensen and zub vs McCabe and tanev...

I dunno. Maybe it's the homer in me, but I take the sens D as well.

The sens have allowed less goals against than Toronto despite Toronto playing more time in the offensive zone with better offensive stars...so maybe, just maybe, Ottawa has better goalies/D.

Toronto has a better D corps than Ottawa.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

They will lose to both the Sens or Habs in the first round. It is written.

Both the sens AND habs

 

[jbeck5]

Leafs have allowed 134 goals 5v5, Sens 146. Leafs have given up too many goals with the goalie pulled, while on the PP, and marginally more on the PK>

So they still allow more total goals...that's a defensive issue, whether on the pp or pk or even strength.

At least in my opinion.

 

[jbeck5]

Toronto has a better D corps than Ottawa.

That doesn't really mean much to just say it though..

I understand what the claim is, but what is the evidence of the claim?

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I'm torn. On one hand they will be the better team, finally have good goaltending, and their offensive weapons are firing with Tavares having a great year. On the other hand, they are huge turds in the playoffs and play like they are tuning up for the summer golf season. Sort of 50/50. I chose no because they are turds.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

If there is a higher power above us all then the Leafs will either get swept or lose in heartbreaking fashion in game 7. These are the only acceptable choices.

 

[Connor MethDavid]

Both the sens AND habs

If there's any team that could find a way to lose twice in the first round, to 2 different teams, it's definitely us.