Poll: How many points will the Red Wings accrue this season?

How many points will the Red Wings finish the season with?


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OgeeOgelthorpe

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I think we'll be at 98.

10 more wins, 4 more OTLs than last season. Somewhere between 7th and 10th in the conference, depending on how the Penguins, Capitals and Islanders hold up.

Or maybe guys like Berggren and Edvinsson shock the hell out of us, Lalonde proves to be a great HC and they get above 100?
 
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StargateSG1

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East has gotten even tougher to play against.
Many teams that played with "ghost rosters" due to covid quarantines in the 1st part of last season will not be doing so anymore, how many "Extra" points did the Wings grab there?
Won't be facing that many backups probably either.
D still sucks, outside of Seider, there are barely 2 legit Top 4 D. Both Chiarot and Maata are 3rd pairing material
that will play in Top 4.
I doubt they win 11 shootouts again.
While PP might be better, don't see PK being very good.
Still seems to be a Bottom 5 team in GAA by year's end.

Lalonde might finally figure out what Jeffy couldn't or wouldn't, so that's a plus.
Goalies are TBD

All in all, I don't see a lot of basis to predict that somehow this team is suddenly improved by 20-30 points.
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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East has gotten even tougher to play against.
Many teams that played with "ghost rosters" due to covid quarantines in the 1st part of last season will not be doing so anymore, how many "Extra" points did the Wings grab there?
Won't be facing that many backups probably either.
D still sucks, outside of Seider, there are barely 2 legit Top 4 D. Both Chiarot and Maata are 3rd pairing material
that will play in Top 4.
I doubt they win 11 shootouts again.
While PP might be better, don't see PK being very good.
Still seems to be a Bottom 5 team in GAA by year's end.

Lalonde might finally figure out what Jeffy couldn't or wouldn't, so that's a plus.
Goalies are TBD

All in all, I don't see a lot of basis to predict that somehow this team is suddenly improved by 20-30 points.

Detroit were one of the teams playing with a "ghost roster" last year. Bottom 5 in payroll last season. I think at one point they were playing with barely 50 million on the roster because of the players on IR. There are a lot of other powerhouse teams that got worse. Can you say that Pittsburgh is demonstrably better by getting rid of a solid top 4 defenseman in Marino for Petry? How about Washington missing Backstrom? Or Tampa losing Palat and McDonagh? And Toronto looks to have one of the worst goaltending groups in the league while losing some solid bottom 6 depth.

Also despite your worries about Chiarot and Maatta they combined for 224 blocked shots. And if Maatta only plays 3rd pair? Great! That's probably because Edvinsson will be getting regular ice in the top 4.

It's also been said in either the Boughner or Lalonde thread (or both) that Boughner is a PK wizard. The Sharks were near the top of the league in PK percentage during his tenure and Lalonde copied Boughner's schemes in Tampa. A 5% improvement puts the team at league average for the PK and I would expect Detroit at least gets there.
 
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Lil Sebastian Cossa

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They’re not going to accrue any points. They earn and receive the points on the same night and there is no issue with the matching principle.

Not unless they have a game postponed that they were leading and complete it at a later date

Lame accounting joke that made me laugh out of the way…. 80-89. But I wouldn’t be surprised if stuff tanked and they got fewer. Because Seider and Raymond are more likely than not to slide a bit (sophomore slump is real) and who actually knows what the guys like Kubalik, Husso, Chiarot, and Maatta add.
 

Diehard Devil

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I think we'll be at 98.

10 more wins, 4 more OTLs than last season. Somewhere between 7th and 10th in the conference, depending on how the Penguins, Capitals and Islanders hold up.

Or maybe guys like Berggren and Edvinsson shock the hell out of us, Lalonde proves to be a great HC and they get above 100?
The 2nd half of last season is much closer to reality than the 1st half

I hope you dont actually believe they have anywhere near playoff potential.. Youre just setting yourself up for major disappointment

A middle-of-the-rebuild team isnt winnibg 40 games. This isnt NHL22
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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The 2nd half of last season is much closer to reality than the 1st half

I hope you dont actually believe they have anywhere near playoff potential..

The second half was a team that would have automatically won a top 3 pick if they played the first half like that. Detroit gave up 7 or more times a league record 10 times last year. 8 times from February 14 to the end of the season. Larkin was playing injured for a good amount of that stretch. And Greiss was doing his best to channel his inner 2019-2020 Jim Howard. The team flat out played like they did not give a damn for many of those games.

The team tuning out Jeff Blashill and Doug Houda is a major reason that happened. And it's also part of why they were fired. Losing them and getting a new coaching staff behind the bench is a huge boost.
 

StargateSG1

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The second half was a team that would have automatically won a top 3 pick if they played the first half like that. Detroit gave up 7 or more times a league record 10 times last year. 8 times from February 14 to the end of the season. Larkin was playing injured for a good amount of that stretch. And Greiss was doing his best to channel his inner 2019-2020 Jim Howard. The team flat out played like they did not give a damn for many of those games.

The team tuning out Jeff Blashill and Doug Houda is a major reason that happened. And it's also part of why they were fired. Losing them and getting a new coaching staff behind the bench is a huge boost.
They had the Easiest schedule in the 1st half compared to the toughest in 2nd half, is all there is to it.
 

Diehard Devil

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The second half was a team that would have automatically won a top 3 pick if they played the first half like that. Detroit gave up 7 or more times a league record 10 times last year. 8 times from February 14 to the end of the season. Larkin was playing injured for a good amount of that stretch. And Greiss was doing his best to channel his inner 2019-2020 Jim Howard. The team flat out played like they did not give a damn for many of those games.

The team tuning out Jeff Blashill and Doug Houda is a major reason that happened. And it's also part of why they were fired. Losing them and getting a new coaching staff behind the bench is a huge boost.
The Red Wings are in the middle of a rebuild. Half the names on the roster wont be here when they are actual contenders

Your optimism is awesome and dont ever lose it. But you have to temper expectations severely. This team is in the dead center of the rebuild, another few high draft picks while Edvinsson Seider Raymond Kasper etc all come to age.

Improving by 10 points would be more realistic than 10 wins or anywhere near 100 points. The 2nd half of the season is offset by how unsustainable the 1st half was. Lucas Raymond was PPG through 25 games, ended the season with 52 points.

Youre better off just realizing this is how rebuilds in the cap era work. Expecting a season of almost 100 points is, literally, 2-3 years out.
 

ThankGord

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The 2nd half of last season is much closer to reality than the 1st half

I hope you dont actually believe they have anywhere near playoff potential.. Youre just setting yourself up for major disappointment

A middle-of-the-rebuild team isnt winnibg 40 games. This isnt NHL22

Hate to break it to you but both the first and second half were reality.

Also the roster/staff have changed significantly, so it's not really going to look like either half of last season.
 

Shaman464

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Detroit only had 21 regulation wins last year. I think they hit around 80ish points but are still on the outside looking in by the time of the TDL.
 

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