Salary Cap: Poll; Buyout Candidates
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GoBoltz56
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All of the guys with 1 year left would be prime candidates. I'd add Petry to the list.
Coach Reggie Dunlop
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I think the only one worth it is copp. I remember that prasnanth article from last year talking about it.
Hopefully it was not the same article he was advocating giving almost Norris Finalist Jake Walman 8-year contract.
Coach Reggie Dunlop
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I don’t remember reading that, but that is quite the awful proposed contract, even if I was a bit upset by today’s trade.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Holl. His buyout would be 1.33 mil for 4 seasons.
Fabbri can be traded for a late pick or future considerations.
Copp buyout would suck pretty bad. Annual cost of 1.819 mil per season for 6 seasons is shit.
Husso would cost 1.583 mil for 1 season but he'd get paid 3.166 mil, so he's better on LTIR than as a buyout.
Fabbri can be traded for a late pick or future considerations.
Copp buyout would suck pretty bad. Annual cost of 1.819 mil per season for 6 seasons is shit.
Husso would cost 1.583 mil for 1 season but he'd get paid 3.166 mil, so he's better on LTIR than as a buyout.
Why can’t I choose multiple options? Fabbri, Holl, Petry, Copp.. they can all go buh-bye and the overall roster doesn’t take a hit.
We are kidding ourselves if we think SY isn’t regretting not fielding a younger (probably worse) team the past couple seasons to have more cap space and a bigger/better prospect pool going into this next season.
It’s unfortunate because he knows the best way to have sustained success is by practicing patience, but he had pressure from multiple directions to provide a more polished product and (hopefully) expedite the rebuild.
Now we are seeing the negative effects of trying to push the envelope a little too hard. He signed guys to bad deals, there’s really no way else to put it.
We are kidding ourselves if we think SY isn’t regretting not fielding a younger (probably worse) team the past couple seasons to have more cap space and a bigger/better prospect pool going into this next season.
It’s unfortunate because he knows the best way to have sustained success is by practicing patience, but he had pressure from multiple directions to provide a more polished product and (hopefully) expedite the rebuild.
Now we are seeing the negative effects of trying to push the envelope a little too hard. He signed guys to bad deals, there’s really no way else to put it.
Holden Caufield
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I think you are only allowed to use one buyout per offseason.
You can get a 2nd buyout only if an RFA player takes you to an arbitration hearing.
I could be completely wrong here? but that is my understanding, Only one is possible for now.
norrisnick
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No one. I'd rather yeet more 2nds or 3rds than have any dead space.
RabidBadger
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I picked Abdelkader. It's so worth it in my book. I think there should be a ceremonial "buy out Abdelkader" day in Detroit.
Lazlo Hollyfeld
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Thank you for figuring out the math on this. Because the answer is so dependent on the benefits.
I know people would love to buy Copp out in a heartbeat, but that's quite a hit to take.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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And a Copp buyout in 2025 means he's on the books for 4 years at 1.687.
Copp's buyout will sadly have to wait 2 years for it to be palatable. At that point it's 1.458 for 2 seasons.
Detroit is likely stuck with Copp for the remaining 3 years of his contract. I'm hoping he can salvage some of his value to make him at least a trade throw in at some point.
stillwater
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This team is going to look a lot different in a week or so. Hold on to your lugnuts!
JediOrderPizza
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Need a hero Copp season where he doesn't stink so we can retain 50% and be done with it.
norrisnick
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If Copp didn't exist on the roster, SY would just acquire another one. He already had one and still acquired a second....
jkutswings
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I hear that Edmonton could use some realgud depth at forward.
Roomba With a Bauer
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I think Husso gets waived and ends up in SJ as the "future consideration", Holl gets bought out, Maatta gets traded. Frees up 14.5 million between Walman, Husso, Maatta, and Holl.
That leaves you with Seider, Edvinsson, Johansson, Petry, and Chiarot on defense, so Yzerman would need to find two top-four guys and another goalie in trade or FA.
That leaves you with Seider, Edvinsson, Johansson, Petry, and Chiarot on defense, so Yzerman would need to find two top-four guys and another goalie in trade or FA.
jkutswings
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Music to my ears - where do I sign?
Oddbob
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As much as I don't like Holl. It doesn't make sense to buy him out until next year. 2 year's on the cap at 50% isn't bad, but 4 is meh. Copp lol, gotta wait 2 more year's to buy him out as well.
Henkka
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Contracts aren't perfect, but nobody will be bought out.
Buyouts will hurt the future, and that's not the way.
Rather use low-round draft picks to buy cap space.
Buyouts will hurt the future, and that's not the way.
Rather use low-round draft picks to buy cap space.
Well based on the trade yeasterday you’ll be giving up 1st rounders to get out of those deals.
I doubt Copp is going anywhere, and I'm not sure we'd be thrilled with what actually happens if he was bought out. We have no one to replace him with right now and whoever we sign in UFA is probably just going to end up in the same "he's overpaid!" doghouse in short order.
The guy buys in to what the team wants from him and holds down 16 minutes a night without getting regularly caved in. I know that sounds like a low bar but it's a bar we couldn't clear on the third line before he showed up.
The guy buys in to what the team wants from him and holds down 16 minutes a night without getting regularly caved in. I know that sounds like a low bar but it's a bar we couldn't clear on the third line before he showed up.
Henkka
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Yeah, that's how the prices will act when Free Agency is knocking on the door next week.
It's a great possibility for for BIGGER POSITIVE upgrades, so maybe you can live with some smaller negatives.
