Confirmed with Link: POJ 1 year

[Linkens Mastery]

Blues sign Pierre-Olivier Joseph to one-year contract | St. Louis Blues

ST. LOUIS – St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the team has signed defenseman Pierre-Olivier Joseph to a one-year contract worth $950,000. Joseph, 25, is the younger brother of Mathieu Joseph, whom the Blues acquired in a trade with...

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[TheDizee]

Going to be a long year.

 

[Xerloris]

Going to be a long year.

Nah, I imagine you're getting up there in age so time flies by for you pretty quickly.

 

[ChuckLefley]

Nah, I imagine you're getting up there in age so time flies by for you pretty quickly.

I’d kind of say the opposite. He spends so much time thinking he is a prophet of doom that every year probably seems like an eternity.

 

[Gurglesons]

POJ is a decent defender. Wouldn't be surprised if he figures it out away from Mike Sullivan.

 

[STL fan in MN]

POJ is a decent defender. Wouldn't be surprised if he figures it out away from Mike Sullivan.

Right now we just need him to split the 6/7 role with Scott Perunovich. I assume he’s at least capable of that? And then possibly more?

Eventually being better than Torey Krug isn’t exactly the highest bar…

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Right now we just need him to split the 6/7 role with Scott Perunovich. I assume he’s at least capable of that? And then possibly more?

Eventually being better than Torey Krug isn’t exactly the highest bar…

Therein lies the rub. If krug could reach a higher bar we wouldn’t have such a need to replace him!

 

[Gurglesons]

Right now we just need him to split the 6/7 role with Scott Perunovich. I assume he’s at least capable of that? And then possibly more?

Eventually being better than Torey Krug isn’t exactly the highest bar…

Yeah, he was utilized as Kris Letang’s partner and looked okay.

He’s very soft, but he’s decent.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

While I want Krug gone. If we are forced to keep him and Faulk another year I'd run

Leddy-Parayko
POJ-Faulk
Krug-Kessel

 

[BlueOil]

POJ is a decent defender. Wouldn't be surprised if he figures it out away from Mike Sullivan.

does he have a decent slapper?

 

[Gurglesons]

does he have a decent slapper?

Nah. More of a wrist shot guy.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Nah. More of a wrist shot guy.

He sounds like a finesse-centric tweener. Is that fair? I know little about him and am probably wrong. idk

I love it that both Js are in the org. That's exciting for me.

 

[Gurglesons]

He sounds like a finesse-centric tweener. Is that fair? I know little about him and am probably wrong. idk

I love it that both Js are in the org. That's exciting for me.

I’m trying to think of a comparable on the Blues and I can’t really come up with him.

He’s a solid skater, he has decent offensive abilities, but I wouldn’t call him offensive oriented. He’s not a train wreck defensively, but he’s certainly not someone I would call good.

He’s probably closer to an AHL guy then an NHL guy, but he shows flashes and won’t hurt you in low usage.

Hopefully he finds a consistent role with the Blues Ala Bortuzzo.

 

[BlueDream]

I’m trying to think of a comparable on the Blues and I can’t really come up with him.

He’s a solid skater, he has decent offensive abilities, but I wouldn’t call him offensive oriented. He’s not a train wreck defensively, but he’s certainly not someone I would call good.

He’s probably closer to an AHL guy then an NHL guy, but he shows flashes and won’t hurt you in low usage.

Hopefully he finds a consistent role with the Blues Ala Bortuzzo.

In this description, he’s essentially our Calle Rosen replacement. That’s who he sounds like.

May bounce back and forth between the NHL and AHL.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

In this description, he’s essentially our Calle Rosen replacement. That’s who he sounds like.

May bounce back and forth between the NHL and AHL.

Maybe not a bad comp. Like @Gurglesons was saying, if he can carve out a NHL-level role of some type, then he's solid. So many talented hockey players cannot translate their talents to a useful NHL role. The NHL is more about combat than hockey, when compared to other leagues. The NHL requires the stomach to digest the fight.

 

[Gurglesons]

In this description, he’s essentially our Calle Rosen replacement. That’s who he sounds like.

May bounce back and forth between the NHL and AHL.

I think he’s better than that. POJ is only 25 and has played 40 more NHL games than Rosen.

I question if he’d make it through waivers tbh.

 

[BlueDream]

I think he’s better than that. POJ is only 25 and has played 40 more NHL games than Rosen.

I question if he’d make it through waivers tbh.

Rosen was surprisingly fairly solid for us, he is probably just a late bloomer compared to POJ. He put up 26 points in 73 games, he produced when called upon. He was a good skater, and not physical. Not a train wreck defensively but also not great either.

The description you gave of Joseph is the exact type of player that Rosen is. Joseph of course is younger and hopefully has some more potential left, but generally when RFAs don’t get qualified, that means they are waiver fodder. If Joseph is better than Rosen then cool, but it really shouldn’t be expected just because he’s a former 1st round pick. I am not sure how realistic it is for him to put up 30+ points over a full season and outproduce what Rosen gave us.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Rosen was surprisingly fairly solid for us, he is probably just a late bloomer compared to POJ. He put up 26 points in 73 games, he produced when called upon. He was a good skater, and not physical. Not a train wreck defensively but also not great either.

The description you gave of Joseph is the exact type of player that Rosen is. Joseph of course is younger and hopefully has some more potential left, but generally when RFAs don’t get qualified, that means they are waiver fodder. If Joseph is better than Rosen then cool, but it really shouldn’t be expected just because he’s a former 1st round pick. I am not sure how realistic it is for him to put up 30+ points over a full season and outproduce what Rosen gave us.

You’re talking the Rosen of 2 years ago? Rosen from last season didn’t contribute much at all.

I see POJ as more of a Scandella replacement than Rosen. I don’t expect him to have as good of a career as Scandy but compared to mid-30s Scandy? Yeah, he should at least be that caliber IMO.

Tyler Tucker’s skating isn’t remotely close to NHL caliber so I’ll be pretty surprised if POJ can’t beat him out for a spot.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I'd rather have POJ and his sometimes good defense then have Peru and his Never good defense in the lineup every night.

 

[BlueDream]

You’re talking the Rosen of 2 years ago? Rosen from last season didn’t contribute much at all.

I see POJ as more of a Scandella replacement than Rosen. I don’t expect him to have as good of a career as Scandy but compared to mid-30s Scandy? Yeah, he should at least be that caliber IMO.

Tyler Tucker’s skating isn’t remotely close to NHL caliber so I’ll be pretty surprised if POJ can’t beat him out for a spot.

It doesn’t matter at all what season of Rosen I’m talking about. I’m talking about the type of player POJ is. His game isn’t similar to Scandella’s at all.

 

[STL fan in MN]

It doesn’t matter at all what season of Rosen I’m talking about. I’m talking about the type of player POJ is. His game isn’t similar to Scandella’s at all.

Ok. You’re comparing them stylistically whereas I’m comparing them in terms of impact/caliber of player.

Agree that stylistically, he more resembles Rosen…but I expect him to be further up the depth chart than Rosen was. He’s a better version of Rosen.

 

[BlueDream]

Ok. You’re comparing them stylistically whereas I’m comparing them in terms of impact/caliber of player.

Agree that stylistically, he more resembles Rosen…but I expect him to be further up the depth chart than Rosen was. He’s a better version of Rosen.

But he’s really not.

The Pittsburgh fan even said he’s closer to AHL caliber than NHL. The Penguins decided not to qualify him.

And now the argument is that he’s so much better than Rosen. Based on what?

It’s a pointless argument because it really doesn’t matter, but just pointing out some of the silliness in this thread (not you specifically, a lot of this is coming from that Pittsburgh fan contradicting himself).

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

But he’s really not.

The Pittsburgh fan even said he’s closer to AHL caliber than NHL. The Penguins decided not to qualify him.

And now the argument is that he’s so much better than Rosen. Based on what?

It’s a pointless argument because it really doesn’t matter, but just pointing out some of the silliness in this thread (not you specifically, a lot of this is coming from that Pittsburgh fan contradicting himself).

Yeah, no. Rosen is an AHL player who had career year in '22-23 that fooled some Blues' fans. POJ has established himself as (at least a marginal) NHL player. Whether POJ is a good D or not we will see, but he has already proven he is much better than Rosen.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Yeah, no. Rosen is an AHL player who had career year in '22-23 that fooled some Blues' fans. POJ has established himself as (at least a marginal) NHL player. Whether POJ is a good D or not we will see, but he has already proven he is much better than Rosen.

I’ll go with this. Seems like POJ is more than a tweener.

 

[badi]

POJ was badly used and developed as many young player in Pittsburgh under Sullivan .
He is big skates well and with confidence could be a nice acquisition