Please vote for the best player*
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Roy, though I strongly considered Hasek.
It might not be the more popular opinion, but I have my reasons. Roy raised his game in the playoffs, his success often came while dragging a lesser team around him, and he revolutionized the position by being a pioneer of the butterfly stance.
It might not be the more popular opinion, but I have my reasons. Roy raised his game in the playoffs, his success often came while dragging a lesser team around him, and he revolutionized the position by being a pioneer of the butterfly stance.
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Comes down to Crosby, Hasek and Jagr for me but if forced to choose I’ll go with Crosby.
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Hasek was an easy choice, Much harder if he's not there though
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I like the excessive confidence followed immediately by admitted ignorance.
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Crosby
Béliveau
After that, some combination of Jagr, Roy, Hasek, Harvey and Hull
Crosby is the best player since Lemieux, IMO, but Béliveau has an argument too; he comes to the table with f***ing 10 Stanley Cup rings. One for every single fingers, thumbs inclueded while being the best player on his teams, or second best.
Béliveau
After that, some combination of Jagr, Roy, Hasek, Harvey and Hull
Crosby is the best player since Lemieux, IMO, but Béliveau has an argument too; he comes to the table with f***ing 10 Stanley Cup rings. One for every single fingers, thumbs inclueded while being the best player on his teams, or second best.
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It blows my mind that Hasek is #5 lol
Top 10? Absolutly!
But Crosby is hard to pass on imo
Top 10? Absolutly!
But Crosby is hard to pass on imo
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According to the HFBoards History of Hockey panel who have a lot of knowledge on this subject, they have ranked the players as follows:
5) Bobby Hull
6) Jean Beliveau
7) Patrick Roy
8) Doug Harvey
9) Maurice Richard
10) Ray Bourque
11) Howie Morenz
12) Sidney Crosby
13) Dominik Hasek
14) Eddie Shore
15) Nicklas Lidstrom
16) Jaromir Jagr
17) Red Kelly
18) Denis Potvin
19) Jacques Plante
20) Frank Nighbor
21) Mark Messier
22) Alex Ovechkin
23) Guy Lafleur
Which is the exact same order that OP has them listed in the poll.
The list was made in 2018, so Crosby and Ovechkin may have climbed the list a few spots since that time (or they may not have).
And for me personally, I find the History of Hockey panel's list to be significantly more accurate than any other list I've read.
Players like Hull, Beliveau, Harvey, Richard, Morenz and Shore often get completely ignored by most casual fans.
The fact that Lidstrom has 3x the number of votes as Harvey, Bourque and Shore, three defencemen who most certainly rank higher than him all-time, goes to show the recency bias of many posters.
5) Bobby Hull
6) Jean Beliveau
7) Patrick Roy
8) Doug Harvey
9) Maurice Richard
10) Ray Bourque
11) Howie Morenz
12) Sidney Crosby
13) Dominik Hasek
14) Eddie Shore
15) Nicklas Lidstrom
16) Jaromir Jagr
17) Red Kelly
18) Denis Potvin
19) Jacques Plante
20) Frank Nighbor
21) Mark Messier
22) Alex Ovechkin
23) Guy Lafleur
Which is the exact same order that OP has them listed in the poll.
The list was made in 2018, so Crosby and Ovechkin may have climbed the list a few spots since that time (or they may not have).
And for me personally, I find the History of Hockey panel's list to be significantly more accurate than any other list I've read.
Players like Hull, Beliveau, Harvey, Richard, Morenz and Shore often get completely ignored by most casual fans.
The fact that Lidstrom has 3x the number of votes as Harvey, Bourque and Shore, three defencemen who most certainly rank higher than him all-time, goes to show the recency bias of many posters.
Crosby. I usually go with him for #5. I like how complete his resume is.
Peak ability: - as good/better than anyone here (I know he didn't quite get to put as good a full peak season as others due to health, but peak ability is strong)
Prime length/consistency - Probably #1 here
Playoffs - Probably not #1, but very close. Maybe close to ~top 5 here?
International resume - Not sure if #1 here, but very high
Other names I have close are Roy, Beliveau and Jagr.
Roy I like also because how complete his resume is. Fantastic prime length/consistency, great peak in regular season (not quite as high as Hasek maybe, but still fantastic overall). And obviously for playoffs - insane. #1 here, probably gives Gretzky a run for his money for #1 overall.
I like Jagr because of his peak/prime in the late 90s. 5 Art Rosses are insane, in a very competitive era too. He has great career length too, which helps. Doesn't quite have the playoff peak as others, but still performed great on an individual basis in playoffs.
Beliveau - good comparable to Crosby. Very complete resume.
Peak ability: - as good/better than anyone here (I know he didn't quite get to put as good a full peak season as others due to health, but peak ability is strong)
Prime length/consistency - Probably #1 here
Playoffs - Probably not #1, but very close. Maybe close to ~top 5 here?
International resume - Not sure if #1 here, but very high
Other names I have close are Roy, Beliveau and Jagr.
Roy I like also because how complete his resume is. Fantastic prime length/consistency, great peak in regular season (not quite as high as Hasek maybe, but still fantastic overall). And obviously for playoffs - insane. #1 here, probably gives Gretzky a run for his money for #1 overall.
I like Jagr because of his peak/prime in the late 90s. 5 Art Rosses are insane, in a very competitive era too. He has great career length too, which helps. Doesn't quite have the playoff peak as others, but still performed great on an individual basis in playoffs.
Beliveau - good comparable to Crosby. Very complete resume.
I prefer Roy to Hasek, and have Hasek closer to #10-11 all time, but I don't know that it should blow your mind. His peak is really spectacular, it's easy to gravitate towards that when ranking. I don't have him that high, but doesn't surprise me many do
