Confirmed with Link: PLD to the Kings for Iafallo, Vilardi, Kupari and a 2nd in 2024 (orig Mtl’s pick)

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Right now LA is on a 7 game losing streak and Jets are on a ”I can’t remember our last clean loss” streak. Of course the trade looks like complete shit for LA at this snapshot in time and I assume he is a very easy target.

Last season from Oct to the end of December PLD was in the top 20 in scoring in the NHL and if you look back to threads many solid posters wanted him signed long term over Schiefele. There is no doubt this looks super shitty for LA and pretty dark right now but I am holding judgment still until after the first season is complete.

Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled we don’t have to deal with the drama that surrounds either of the “Enigma Brothers“ (Laine and PLD) anymore. PLD did have 63 points in 73 games last season so there is a hockey player in there somewhere.
 
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Right now LA is on a 7 game losing streak and Jets are on a ”I can’t remember our last clean loss” streak. Of course the trade looks like complete shit for LA at this snapshot in time and I assume he is a very easy target.

Last season from Oct to the end of December PLD was in the top 20 in scoring in the NHL and if you look back to threads many solid posters wanted him signed long term over Schiefele. There is no doubt this looks super shitty for LA and pretty dark right now but I am holding judgment still until after the first season is complete.

Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled we don’t have to deal with the drama that surrounds either of the “Enigma Brothers“ (Laine and PLD) anymore. PLD did have 63 points in 73 games last season so there is a hockey player in there somewhere.
I agree with you, but screw him. Right now im basking in our glory and LA's slump. I think PLD's issues stems from his usage. He'll be just fine when he is promoted to the top 6.
 
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Right now LA is on a 7 game losing streak and Jets are on a ”I can’t remember our last clean loss” streak. Of course the trade looks like complete shit for LA at this snapshot in time and I assume he is a very easy target.

Last season from Oct to the end of December PLD was in the top 20 in scoring in the NHL and if you look back to threads many solid posters wanted him signed long term over Schiefele. There is no doubt this looks super shitty for LA and pretty dark right now but I am holding judgment still until after the first season is complete.

Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled we don’t have to deal with the drama that surrounds either of the “Enigma Brothers“ (Laine and PLD) anymore. PLD did have 63 points in 73 games last season so there is a hockey player in there somewhere.
You can count me as one of the people that was hoping PLD would have had a change of heart and decided to stay.

In fact.... up until the start of the season, I thought his new contract was a fair deal and would have welcomed him on the Jets at that cap hit/term

Needless to say, I'm glad it worked out the way it has
 

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Hope you guys don’t mind me poking around here a bit, Vilardi’s my favorite prospect the Kings have developed in a long time and I’ve always loved the Jets.

The Kings ask a lot of their centers and new players don’t seem to thrive right away. He isn’t playing with great linemates too frequently either, so it’s not the easiest assignment. Laying all of the blame on him obviously isn’t fair or warranted. Nor is it his fault that Blake overpaid so significantly for him in the first place. Not to mention, $8 million or so is the going rate for a 60-point second-line center.

I don’t think LA is as good as they seemed early in the year and I don’t think they’re as bad as they seem right now. Most of the losses in the last month have come when we’ve had a two goal lead. I’ve never seen anything like it.

But that’s not nearly as fun or funny as dogpiling this nightmare of a trade, so for the memes, let’s keep that rolling :)
 

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Right now LA is on a 7 game losing streak and Jets are on a ”I can’t remember our last clean loss” streak. Of course the trade looks like complete shit for LA at this snapshot in time and I assume he is a very easy target.

Last season from Oct to the end of December PLD was in the top 20 in scoring in the NHL and if you look back to threads many solid posters wanted him signed long term over Schiefele. There is no doubt this looks super shitty for LA and pretty dark right now but I am holding judgment still until after the first season is complete.

Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled we don’t have to deal with the drama that surrounds either of the “Enigma Brothers“ (Laine and PLD) anymore. PLD did have 63 points in 73 games last season so there is a hockey player in there somewhere.
I agree totally with this take above.
I have no real issues with PLD.
I see PLD as a 60 point 2C player long term . When he first was traded to the Jets he was not good for the rest of that season so maybe he is slow to adapt to a new team. This year in LA seems to be proving this. He improved in his 2nd season as a Jet but was inconsistent at best. This is why while I did want the Jets to resign him, but not at 8+M AAV. I never thought he was worth that price. I doubt he will ever be worth his current contract but I do believe he will eventually become that 60+ point player again. If not this season, then maybe the next one. Even if PLD comes back to form the return the Jets got for PLD may be seen as the best trade the team ever made. So no matter what happens with PLD in LA going forward I am very happy with this trade. The Jet would not be a #1 team in the league without the depth they got with this trade. Now with Scheifele out this depth will be totally tested.
 

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I agree with you, but screw him. Right now im basking in our glory and LA's slump. I think PLD's issues stems from his usage. He'll be just fine when he is promoted to the top 6.

Hope you guys don’t mind me poking around here a bit, Vilardi’s my favorite prospect the Kings have developed in a long time and I’ve always loved the Jets.

The Kings ask a lot of their centers and new players don’t seem to thrive right away. He isn’t playing with great linemates too frequently either, so it’s not the easiest assignment. Laying all of the blame on him obviously isn’t fair or warranted. Nor is it his fault that Blake overpaid so significantly for him in the first place. Not to mention, $8 million or so is the going rate for a 60-point second-line center.

I don’t think LA is as good as they seemed early in the year and I don’t think they’re as bad as they seem right now. Most of the losses in the last month have come when we’ve had a two goal lead. I’ve never seen anything like it.

But that’s not nearly as fun or funny as dogpiling this nightmare of a trade, so for the memes, let’s keep that rolling :)

Eventhough he isn't producing on the scoresheet, his underlying numbers all look pretty decent and still indicate a 60 point player. I agree with @Aggie204 that his current struggles are a lot to do with the usage. Even with linemates that are not that good, he is still producing at a similar rate at 5v5 as he did on the Jets, it's just that his PP offense which used to be one of the things he did well here has completely evaporated. If I were LA management, I would try to get him up to that 1st unit PP just to get some confidence going.
 

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Eventhough he isn't producing on the scoresheet, his underlying numbers all look pretty decent and still indicate a 60 point player. I agree with @Aggie204 that his current struggles are a lot to do with the usage. Even with linemates that are not that good, he is still producing at a similar rate at 5v5 as he did on the Jets, it's just that his PP offense which used to be one of the things he did well here has completely evaporated. If I were LA management, I would try to get him up to that 1st unit PP just to get some confidence going.
It’s interesting to me that halfway through the season PLD is stuck in the bottom 6. Maybe it’s the Kings mandate to see what they have in Byfield. But the current slump they are in, they need to give PLD a chance.
 

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It’s interesting to me that halfway through the season PLD is stuck in the bottom 6. Maybe it’s the Kings mandate to see what they have in Byfield. But the current slump they are in, they need to give PLD a chance.
Byfield's been converted to left wing, he hasn't played a single shift at center in two years. The center pecking order is Kopitar, Danault, PLD, and Lizotte. He was removed off the top power play unit but I agree, it might be time to put him back on there and see if LA can get him going.
 

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Right now LA is on a 7 game losing streak and Jets are on a ”I can’t remember our last clean loss” streak. Of course the trade looks like complete shit for LA at this snapshot in time and I assume he is a very easy target.

Last season from Oct to the end of December PLD was in the top 20 in scoring in the NHL and if you look back to threads many solid posters wanted him signed long term over Schiefele. There is no doubt this looks super shitty for LA and pretty dark right now but I am holding judgment still until after the first season is complete.

Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled we don’t have to deal with the drama that surrounds either of the “Enigma Brothers“ (Laine and PLD) anymore. PLD did have 63 points in 73 games last season so there is a hockey player in there somewhere.
I would agree if PLD was young and immature (under 23). However, he will be 26 soon. And he seems to be coasting more and more with each passing year. I honestly question if his heart is in the game or not. At any rate, he is never going to be the star that was hoped of him when drafted in 2016.
 

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Hope you guys don’t mind me poking around here a bit, Vilardi’s my favorite prospect the Kings have developed in a long time and I’ve always loved the Jets.

The Kings ask a lot of their centers and new players don’t seem to thrive right away. He isn’t playing with great linemates too frequently either, so it’s not the easiest assignment. Laying all of the blame on him obviously isn’t fair or warranted. Nor is it his fault that Blake overpaid so significantly for him in the first place. Not to mention, $8 million or so is the going rate for a 60-point second-line center.

I don’t think LA is as good as they seemed early in the year and I don’t think they’re as bad as they seem right now. Most of the losses in the last month have come when we’ve had a two goal lead. I’ve never seen anything like it.

But that’s not nearly as fun or funny as dogpiling this nightmare of a trade, so for the memes, let’s keep that rolling
Dubois is likely better than fans give him credit for. Playing on the Kings 3rd line probably hasn't helped. That line seems snake bitten.
I am happy the Jets managed to get Vilardi out of it. Iafallo and Kupari were extra. Montreal 2nd round pick was a thing of beauty because f**k the Habs.
 

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The fact the 2nd was thrown in gives me great confidence in Chevy as a negotiator. I can't believe we've only had one GM for 13 years, but how can you criticize these results. He's been good at trading. Believed in Pavs for way too long but hey everyone has their blind spots.

PLD has character issues that were clearly seen by Torts, PLDs tough love father who only wanted the best for him. He's not intense enough for this league and my guess is he's not in it in 3 years.
 
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The fact the 2nd was thrown in gives me great confidence in Chevy as a negotiator. I can't believe we've only had one GM for 13 years, but how can you criticize these results. He's been good at trading. Believed in Pavs for way too long but hey everyone has their blind spots.

PLD has character issues that were clearly seen by Torts, PLDs tough love father who only wanted the best for him. He's not intense enough for this league and my guess is he's not in it in 3 years.
He is being paid $8.5 M AAV for 8 years. Are you suggesting he will throw away the last 5 years? Not sure if anyone turns down $40+ M no matter how disinterested they are in the actual game.
 
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We have to be grateful Dubois wanted to leave. Not only did Chevy try to sign him long term Bowness also put a big effort in trying to keep him here. Thank god he wanted out. I was fine either way as he only showed up every few games. Didn't expect him to be this bad though.
There has always seemed something really different about PLD. Everyone of us on this board have seen him at times being an unstoppable machine and think holy shit sign this player at any cost. Those games got fewer and fewer as the season progressed, until by the end of last season he seemed to have lost interest. Amazingly Chevy found a buyer and got an amazing return. But watching him in LA this season he seems content just to be a NHL player who makes a big salary in a fun place to live if you are rich, but the actual hockey part of it isn't a passion. Not similar playing styles but he reminds me of Daigle. All the talent in the world, put very little passion for the game.
 

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Absolutely love the way Vilardi plays, the way Iafallo is gaining confidence and the speed Kupari brings.
Makes me feel like I’m in Paris ordering “jambes de grenouille” ..
“Bring me more fresh legs, s’il vous plait!”
Any player who counts himself better on his own elsewhere with more chances for a cup, perhaps thinking the Jets couldn’t ever rise to Stanley Cup levels, has to be questioning if he badly underestimated his former teammates..
 

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Absolutely love the way Vilardi plays, the way Iafallo is gaining confidence and the speed Kupari brings.
Makes me feel like I’m in Paris ordering “jambes de grenouille” ..
“Bring me more fresh legs, s’il vous plait!”
Any player who counts himself better on his own elsewhere with more chances for a cup, perhaps thinking the Jets couldn’t ever rise to Stanley Cup levels, has to be questioning if he badly underestimated his former teammates..
Frog legs are basically chicken drumettes at twice the price. And yes, I have had both. Have I had them in Paris? No, nor will I ever. But I can't believe the locale makes them that much better. If anything, the cost of travelling there makes them even more of a ripoff.

Yes, I'm drunk. Yes, I'm in a pissy mood. Sue me. :laugh:
 

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Absolutely love the way Vilardi plays, the way Iafallo is gaining confidence and the speed Kupari brings.
Makes me feel like I’m in Paris ordering “jambes de grenouille” ..
“Bring me more fresh legs, s’il vous plait!”
Any player who counts himself better on his own elsewhere with more chances for a cup, perhaps thinking the Jets couldn’t ever rise to Stanley Cup levels, has to be questioning if he badly underestimated his former teammates..
Vilardi has some of the best hands in the league, I'd say.
 

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Frog legs are basically chicken drumettes at twice the price. And yes, I have had both. Have I had them in Paris? No, nor will I ever. But I can't believe the locale makes them that much better. If anything, the cost of travelling there makes them even more of a ripoff.

Yes, I'm drunk. Yes, I'm in a pissy mood. Sue me. :laugh:
If you sold shit on a stick for $2000, there is a certain, tiny market segment that would have to have it.
 

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Frog legs are basically chicken drumettes at twice the price. And yes, I have had both. Have I had them in Paris? No, nor will I ever. But I can't believe the locale makes them that much better. If anything, the cost of travelling there makes them even more of a ripoff.

Yes, I'm drunk. Yes, I'm in a pissy mood. Sue me. :laugh:
Hope you’re all juiced up for the Baaston game. I’m really glad Lowry is on when Brad “Zinjanthropus “ Marchand leaves his cave.
Gloves dropped will there be..
BTW, in Oregon I noticed that the frog legs (ouaron) nearly jumped out of the pan, we didn’t cut the tendons! 😂
 

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