Playoffs Positivity Thread

[salbutera]

People were claiming MTL was tired as an excuse for lacklustre efforts this weekend, im not sure how its going to be any better on Monday when its 3 in 4 nights or Wednesday with 4 in 6 nights

The crowd might need to carry them if they dont clinch tomorrow

Habs have been a completely different team at home - last change has been an enormous benefit to give Hutson & Suzuki line favorable matchups

Habs need 2pts anyway … anyhow

 

[sandviper]

Can anyone explain why our odds are so high to clinch? How does this make sense?

STrENgtH oF sChEduLE

But we are the ones in the driver’s seat, which I guess factors heavily into the odds.

 

[morhilane]

Habs have been a completely different team at home - ...

The case of many teams this seasons, even among the bottom of the standing. TBL, Canes and Kings have crazy home record (Canes/Kings have the most rw at home), but .500 and under away records.

Habs away record is better than the Canes (barely).

 

[GrandBison]

The Caps really want to play Columbus I guess

 

[Barriwhite]

Habs have been a completely different team at home - last change has been an enormous benefit to give Hutson & Suzuki line favorable matchups

Habs need 2pts anyway … anyhow

Isn’t it just 1 point? Otherwise how could we have clinched with a win against TO?

 

[Saundies]

Isn’t it just 1 point? Otherwise how could we have clinched with a win against TO?

They needed a regulation win against TO. The tiebreaker for points is regulation wins, followed by regulation + OT wins. Habs easily win regulation + OT, but if Columbus wins their next two in regulation (and we only get 1 point) we will be tied in points and lose the RW tiebreaker.

 

[Saundies]

The Caps really want to play Columbus I guess

After the last two games I don't know why. They clearly don't match up very well.

 

[Barriwhite]

They needed a regulation win against TO. The tiebreaker for points is regulation wins, followed by regulation + OT wins. Habs easily win regulation + OT, but if Columbus wins their next two in regulation (and we only get 1 point) we will be tied in points and lose the RW tiebreaker.

Thanks!

 

[Adam Michaels]

Isn’t it just 1 point? Otherwise how could we have clinched with a win against TO?

You're correct, Habs only need 1 point to clinch their spot.

Here's the math:

- MTL have 88 pts with 29 RW and 37 ROW with 2 games remaining.
- CBJ have 85 pts with 27 RW and 32 ROW with 2 games remaining.

If MTL get 1 point in their remaining 2 games, they will finish with 89 pts and remaining at 29 RW and 37 ROW.
For CBJ to get to 89 pts, they will need to win both of their remaining games. If they win them in regulation, they will equal MTL at 29 RW each. However, the second tie-breaker is the ROW. Habs have 5 more ROWs and thus will qualify.

So basically, if MTL get 1 point, they clinch.

 

[Saundies]

You're correct, Habs only need 1 point to clinch their spot.

Here's the math:

- MTL have 88 pts with 29 RW and 37 ROW with 2 games remaining.
- CBJ have 85 pts with 27 RW and 32 ROW with 2 games remaining.

If MTL get 1 point in their remaining 2 games, they will finish with 89 pts and remaining at 29 RW and 37 ROW.
For CBJ to get to 89 pts, they will need to win both of their remaining games. If they win them in regulation, they will equal MTL at 29 RW each. However, the second tie-breaker is the ROW. Habs have 5 more ROWs and thus will qualify.

So basically, if MTL get 1 point, they clinch.

CBJ has 28 RW though. We need 2 points.

 

[Lshap]

Interestingly, while Montreal needs 2 points to clinch, Columbus only needs 1 lost point to be eliminated.

A regulation win and OTL for Columbus gives them 88 pts., tied with Montreal. However, while both teams will then have identical 39 W and 29 RW, Montreal wins the tiebreaker with more ROW.

Our 'magic number' is 2. Columbus' magic number is 1.

 

[Adam Michaels]

CBJ has 28 RW though. We need 2 points.

You're right. Forget it then. I don't know why I had them still at 27 RWs.

A win is what's needed.

 

[Saundies]

Interestingly, while Montreal needs 2 points to clinch, Columbus only needs 1 lost point to be eliminated.

A regulation win and OTL for Columbus gives them 88 pts., tied with Montreal. However, while both teams will then have identical 39 W and 29 RW, Montreal wins the tiebreaker with more ROW.

Our 'magic number' is 2. Columbus' magic number is 1.

I posted it in another thread before CBJ played Washington last night but I'll post an update here:

SCENARIOS:

Columbus needs minimum 4 points to make the playoffs over us (they must win out):

- If they win both games in regulation: we need 2 points (1 win or two OT losses) to clinch.
- If they win both games, but one of the games not in regulation: we need 1 point to clinch.
- If they drop any points at all for any sort of reason: they are out.

 

[ahmedou]

96.6%! Vs! 3.4%

 

[expy]

I posted it in another thread before CBJ played Washington last night but I'll post an update here:

SCENARIOS:

Columbus needs minimum 4 points to make the playoffs over us (they must win out):

- If they win both games in regulation: we need 2 points (1 win or two OT losses) to clinch.
- If they win both games, but one of the games not in regulation: we need 1 point to clinch.
- If they drop any points at all for any sort of reason: they are out.

Ah we would have the tie-break for ROW

 

[rik schau]

Definitely don't want to face Tampa, they've dominated us in prior playoffs, Kuch, Point, Hedman and Vasil always find a way to take over and Cooper is a great coach.
Success against Toronto may or may not happen, maybe they learned something from our last playoff appearance.
Yes, I'd rather take our chances against Washington.

Getting in in the first place is the desire, the dance partner going in on may not be the preferred choice, but just getting in is the goal. Once in, it would be great to last a long time but sometimes it's just a quick in and out. Whatever happens it will be a good learning experience and who knows, maybe it will last a long time and that sure will be pleasurable.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

You're right. Forget it then. I don't know why I had them still at 27 RWs.

A win is what's needed.

Two OTL would work too.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Two OTL would work too.

The only way MTL will only need 1 point to clinch is if CBJ lose at least 1 of their remaining 2 games in any fashion.

 

[bsl]

You're correct, Habs only need 1 point to clinch their spot.

Here's the math:

- MTL have 88 pts with 29 RW and 37 ROW with 2 games remaining.
- CBJ have 85 pts with 27 RW and 32 ROW with 2 games remaining.

If MTL get 1 point in their remaining 2 games, they will finish with 89 pts and remaining at 29 RW and 37 ROW.
For CBJ to get to 89 pts, they will need to win both of their remaining games. If they win them in regulation, they will equal MTL at 29 RW each. However, the second tie-breaker is the ROW. Habs have 5 more ROWs and thus will qualify.

So basically, if MTL get 1 point, they clinch.

Uh no

 

[CHfan1]

The only way MTL will only need 1 point to clinch is if CBJ lose at least 1 of their remaining 2 games in any fashion.

Or if Columbus wins 1 of those 2 games in OT.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Uh no

I know. I've already been corrected.

 

[bsl]

Or if Columbus wins 1 of those 2 games in OT.

Uh no. They would have 89 points to Habs 88 if Habs lose out. Habs need 2 points next 2 games to clinch.

 

[bsl]

Or if Columbus wins 1 of those 2 games in OT.

Wrong

 

[CHfan1]

Uh no. They would have 89 points to Habs 88 if Habs lose out. Habs need 2 points next 2 games to clinch.

I was quoting a post saying if the Habs get one point they need Columbus to lose at least one of their final games. They don’t, if Montreal gets one point they just need one of the Columbus games to go to OT, even if they win it.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Uh no. They would have 89 points to Habs 88 if Habs lose out. Habs need 2 points next 2 games to clinch.

If CBJ wins 1 in regulation and 1 in OT/SO, MTL will only need 1 point.

In such a case, both MTL and CBJ would be at 89 pts. If CBJ only wins 1 in regulation and 1 in OT, then both MTL and CBJ would end with 89 pts and 29 RW. Habs have the second tie breaker, which is ROW. Habs now have 37 and CBJ have 32.