Value of: Players definitely on the market?

[PettersonHughes]

Just curious about which players out there are still known as being definitely on the market.

In Montreal, the one name that pops up is Petry, who has asked for a trade and it's openly discussed. Other names may pop up, but Petry is the one remaining guy we know wants out. Weber's contract is also clearly being discussed.

Who out there on other teams is clearly available ? I'll copy back to this post all the answers that have a couple of "likes" confirming someone is on the market.

I'd like to see if we can figure out some deals that could occur by the time the draft comes around.

Other players:

• Montreal : Joel Armia, Jeff Petry, Shea Weber's contract
• Boston: Jake Debrusk
• Ottawa: Colin White
• NYR: Georgiev
• Philadelphia: JVR (final contract year), Provorov and Konecny
• LV: Evgeni Dadonov.
• Vancouver: Pretty much the entire Canucks organization.
• Winnipeg: Mark Scheifele
• Calgary: Sean Monahan and Milan Lucic
• Chicago: Toews and Kane
• Saint-Louis - Marco Scandella
• Wild: Kevin Fiala
• Arizona: Jakob Chychrun
• Sharks: James Reimer, Nick Bonino, and Matt Nieto

Lol. I wish you weren't so correct about this, b/c you're not far off.

 

[pth2]

Lol. I wish you weren't so correct about this, b/c you're not far off.

If you can narrow it down for me, I'm all in.
All of the Canucks other than Demko, Hughes and Pettersson maybe ?

 

[PettersonHughes]

If you can narrow it down for me, I'm all in.
All of the Canucks other than Demko, Hughes and Pettersson maybe ?

Depending who you ask the list would vary, but Demko, Hughes and Petey are the untouchables identified.
Podkolzin and Hoglander have no reason to leave, being young guns on their ELC's (they haven't shown enough to be major pieces to acquire assets, nor should they be when they're on cheap contracts).

Beyond them, for me it's trade
Miller OR Horvat (both have contracts expiring at the same time, but we need 1 other established top-6 C and leader. alongside Petey)
Boeser OR Garland (both have value but bring different skills and advantages e.g. pure scorer vs. high energy skill on team-friendly contract)
Myers OR Schenn (Myers will be on a more palatable 2 year deal that is good if we retain; Schenn will be pending UFA, but we need 1 top 4 RHD)
Myers OR OEL (you might be surprised Myers is here twice, but both are big ticket guys playing well in our shutdown duo; if one can go [thinking Myers] and Vancouver finds another hard-nosed, responsible RHD for cheap, he could 1) spot OEL on defense and 2) activate OEL to take more chances)

We really have no reason to trade some of our guys (e.g. Lammikko/ Highmore, they've really improved since playing with Motte), same with Poolman (still pricey for 3rd RD but he's good depth with Hamonic gone) and Pearson (he's on the top line with Miller and Boeser; not that pricey given the heavy game he plays and the fact that he's contributing). Dickinson and depth I'm meh about.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Pittsburgh: Zucker, Kapanen. Pettersson. Some if not all will be moved to free money to retain Malkin, Letang and Rust

 

[saintunspecified]

Islanders will be looking to move Josh Bailey before/at the draft.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Fiala will be traded in the offseason for the best future based deal the Wild can get.

Fiala is quite decent when I watched Wild's game. Why they want to trade him away?

 

[Chainshot]

Fiala is quite decent when I watched Wild's game. Why they want to trade him away?

Cap crunch incoming due to their buyouts and Fiala's contract being up.

 

[jetsforever]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Mark S from the Jets is available this summer. After a slow start due to COVID, he’s back to producing at PPG and looking much better since the all star break. He has two more years after this one on a very friendly contract (just over 6 million cap).

It's possible but I wouldn't call Scheifele "definitely on the market".

 

[RationalExpectations]

Depending who you ask the list would vary, but Demko, Hughes and Petey are the untouchables identified.
Podkolzin and Hoglander have no reason to leave, being young guns on their ELC's (they haven't shown enough to be major pieces to acquire assets, nor should they be when they're on cheap contracts).

Beyond them, for me it's trade
Miller OR Horvat (both have contracts expiring at the same time, but we need 1 other established top-6 C and leader. alongside Petey)
Boeser OR Garland (both have value but bring different skills and advantages e.g. pure scorer vs. high energy skill on team-friendly contract)
Myers OR Schenn (Myers will be on a more palatable 2 year deal that is good if we retain; Schenn will be pending UFA, but we need 1 top 4 RHD)
Myers OR OEL (you might be surprised Myers is here twice, but both are big ticket guys playing well in our shutdown duo; if one can go [thinking Myers] and Vancouver finds another hard-nosed, responsible RHD for cheap, he could 1) spot OEL on defense and 2) activate OEL to take more chances)

We really have no reason to trade some of our guys (e.g. Lammikko/ Highmore, they've really improved since playing with Motte), same with Poolman (still pricey for 3rd RD but he's good depth with Hamonic gone) and Pearson (he's on the top line with Miller and Boeser; not that pricey given the heavy game he plays and the fact that he's contributing). Dickinson and depth I'm meh about.

Honestly, I am not too sure about this. They have been very good under Boudreau and would be higher if they had not started with Green. If you trade Horvat / Miller you likely are heading for a rebuild and losing some Demko / Pettersson / Hughes years.

I believe Boeser or Garland will be traded because they cannot afford both, not because they especially want to.

Myers is on the block but he has a NTC until this year and after that a 10 teams NTC so will be hard to move from this contract. OEL does not seem to be able to come back to his former self which is bad news but his contract seems impossible to move given term and NMC.

Regarding Hoglander, I remerber the rumours about the Sedin brothers a the time because they were not developping quickly enough. I think every VAN fan is happy that they were not traded away...

 

[GRob83]

The Capitals will listen to offers on Lars Eller (1 year remaining at 3.5) and Ilya Samsonov (RFA) McMichael on his ELC can slot at 3C and Vanecek has pushed Samsonov out of favor. These 2 moves and Schultz going to free agency should free up enough cap space to sign a 3rd pairing dman and a veteran goalie.

 

[captainpaxil]

seems as though Provorov and Konecny are.

I don't see either as likely to be available though I think any flyer is available for the right return

 

[Drake1588]

While McMichael is the heir apparent at 3C in Washington, they might prefer to have Eller play out his contract in DC and groom McMichael for another year.

As for the goaltending situation, I'm not sure that moving Samsonov makes sense without a clear idea of who the upgrade would be in net. They have generally liked what they have seen recently from Vanacek, and if he's their starter, then Samsonov as an affordable backup is as good as any other option. The playoff experience will ultimately force that decision. They decided to stick with youth and we'll see how they perform in a few months' time. As both are RFAs with arbitration rights, the money will also factor into those decisions. Vanacek could be looking at a nice bump, but what is Samsonov's case for a steep raise?

 

[BlueBaron]

Op probably forgot Mrazek because he's worthless but he is very much available.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Devils are certainly gonna try and trade Zacha. He’s an RFA and his agent claims he’s gonna just sign his contract qualifying offer ($3 mill) and go UFA is NJ qualifies him.

Reading the tea leaves Blackwood might be available in a trade, NJ needs to stabilize goaltending. Severson is a year from UFA and might also be available as he would be 2nd pair RD behind Hamilton if he extends.

 

[ginovegas]

Drouin

 

[Smitty426]

Devils are certainly gonna try and trade Zacha. He’s an RFA and his agent claims he’s gonna just sign his contract qualifying offer ($3 mill) and go UFA is NJ qualifies him.

Reading the tea leaves Blackwood might be available in a trade, NJ needs to stabilize goaltending. Severson is a year from UFA and might also be available as he would be 2nd pair RD behind Hamilton if he extends.

Not disagreeing with your post but where has Zacha's agent said this? I haven't seen any reporting on it.
Again, the only reporting on Mack Black is what Serravelli and Elliot mentioned, but is that conjecture because of the heel injury and his poor play or was something actually said. I'm asking.
On Severson, the comment from the GM is he wants to resign and would likely take a hometown discount (not exact words, but that is the essence):

Fitz went on the Athletic and said "Severson had a lot of value to the Devils. They are already thinking about what his next contract might look like. The Devils’ current time-on-ice leader is signed through next season, and Fitzgerald says it would take a really good package to take him away from the Devils." Yeah what else would he say, but hardly sounds like animosity.
Severson does not really yearn to be the #1 RHD, he was beat down playing that role before Hamilton and PK
You may be totatlly correct because who knows what goe on behind the scenes, so we will see. I just buy whats beig sold right now in devs rumors

 

[Mrfenn92]

For the Blackhawks Toews Kane and Jones all control their fate going forward so who knows about them.
For sure available strome and Kubalik. Decent sized qualifying offers needed for both.
Debrincat still don’t see them moving him but who knows what happens if Kane accepts a move.
D-wise think they would listen on McCabe and Murphy.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Not disagreeing with your post but where has Zacha's agent said this? I haven't seen any reporting on it.
Again, the only reporting on Mack Black is what Serravelli and Elliot mentioned, but is that conjecture because of the heel injury and his poor play or was something actually said. I'm asking.
On Severson, the comment from the GM is he wants to resign and would likely take a hometown discount (not exact words, but that is the essence):

Fitz went on the Athletic and said "Severson had a lot of value to the Devils. They are already thinking about what his next contract might look like. The Devils’ current time-on-ice leader is signed through next season, and Fitzgerald says it would take a really good package to take him away from the Devils." Yeah what else would he say, but hardly sounds like animosity.
Severson does not really yearn to be the #1 RHD, he was beat down playing that role before Hamilton and PK
You may be totatlly correct because who knows what goe on behind the scenes, so we will see. I just buy whats beig sold right now in devs rumors

My bad that was speculation I believe that I promoted to a report

Post in thread 'Devils 2021-22 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part XVII'
Devils 2021-22 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part XVII

In any case he’s def available, a long term deal makes no sense for NJ. Change of scenery RFA.

 

[Djp]

Bump.
Come on guys, wouldn't it be nice to look at a list of players likely to be available to make more realistic proposals ?

Buffalowill need to get to the cap floor.

They are not taking cap dumps. They plan on being a playoff team.

their line up next year looks something like

skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Krebs-Cozens-Quinn
Peterka-Mittlestadt-Olofsson
Asplubnd-Girgs-Okposo
Bjork xxx

Dahlin-Bryson
Samueksson-Jokiharju
Power-Fitzgerald
xxx

xxx
UPL

the above line up is well below the flooor by about $15M

Buffalo likeky makes sone trades around the draft or free agency looking fir

1 vet RD who us 23-26 yrs old
2 a vet G who is on a short 2-2 yr contract

Olofsson us an RFA and 1 yr from UFA.
Girge sons and Okposore 1 yr from UFA. Okposo likeky not getting moved till deadline If he wants to get moved. He’s been a vet leader on the young team. H coukd be resigned on a short low contract

Buffalo does have some young players at AHL level that are NHL ready.

many of the young players are going to be due next contracts in 23 and 24 taking up much of the cap space they do think they could have.

they also have potentially 3 1st, thrir 2nd in 22 draft and their 1st and 3 2nd in 23 draft. Vegas pick this year is top 10 protected and I project it to be 15-19 in the draft. Florida pick could be 25-32. Florida pick could be one traded.

players buffalo WILL NOT be realistically trading are
Thompson
Tuch— he is a western NY native who grew up a Sabres fan
Cozens
Krebs
Quinn
Peterka
Power
Dahlin
Levi
UPL
Portillo

other players getting moved would be roster moves, not trades for futures.

things can change dashed on draft lottery and college signings. The expectation is they sign Power and Levi/ Portillo after NCAA tourney fir the Sabres and Levi/ Portillo andJohnson (D-Minn) to a 22-23 contract and AHL ATO. A decider in this coukd be who advances/ eliminated this weekend sweet 16 games. All 4 are in the playoffs.

 

[Ace]

Buffalowill need to get to the cap floor.

They are not taking cap dumps. They plan on being a playoff team.

their line up next year looks something like

skinner-Thompson-Tuch
Krebs-Cozens-Quinn
Peterka-Mittlestadt-Olofsson
Asplubnd-Girgs-Okposo
Bjork xxx

Dahlin-Bryson
Samueksson-Jokiharju
Power-Fitzgerald
xxx

xxx
UPL

the above line up is well below the flooor by about $15M

Buffalo likeky makes sone trades around the draft or free agency looking fir

1 vet RD who us 23-26 yrs old
2 a vet G who is on a short 2-2 yr contract

Olofsson us an RFA and 1 yr from UFA.
Girge sons and Okposore 1 yr from UFA. Okposo likeky not getting moved till deadline If he wants to get moved. He’s been a vet leader on the young team. H coukd be resigned on a short low contract

Buffalo does have some young players at AHL level that are NHL ready.

many of the young players are going to be due next contracts in 23 and 24 taking up much of the cap space they do think they could have.

they also have potentially 3 1st, thrir 2nd in 22 draft and their 1st and 3 2nd in 23 draft. Vegas pick this year is top 10 protected and I project it to be 15-19 in the draft. Florida pick could be 25-32. Florida pick could be one traded.

players buffalo WILL NOT be realistically trading are
Thompson
Tuch— he is a western NY native who grew up a Sabres fan
Cozens
Krebs
Quinn
Peterka
Power
Dahlin
Levi
UPL
Portillo

other players getting moved would be roster moves, not trades for futures.

things can change dashed on draft lottery and college signings. The expectation is they sign Power and Levi/ Portillo after NCAA tourney fir the Sabres and Levi/ Portillo andJohnson (D-Minn) to a 22-23 contract and AHL ATO. A decider in this coukd be who advances/ eliminated this weekend sweet 16 games. All 4 are in the playoffs.

Buffalo is going to add a veteran D to put with Power. Adams has been pretty open about it.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Honestly, I am not too sure about this. They have been very good under Boudreau and would be higher if they had not started with Green. If you trade Horvat / Miller you likely are heading for a rebuild and losing some Demko / Pettersson / Hughes years.

I believe Boeser or Garland will be traded because they cannot afford both, not because they especially want to.

Myers is on the block but he has a NTC until this year and after that a 10 teams NTC so will be hard to move from this contract. OEL does not seem to be able to come back to his former self which is bad news but his contract seems impossible to move given term and NMC.

Regarding Hoglander, I remerber the rumours about the Sedin brothers a the time because they were not developping quickly enough. I think every VAN fan is happy that they were not traded away...

That's fair. Personally I'm leaning towards trade Boeser, so we can keep the strength up the middle (teams do tend to build up C and D strength, as well as in net, and I'm confident Miller will age well) and if we find a taker for one of Poolman/ Dickinson we'll already be in a good place cap-wise.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Holl, Simmonds and Engvall.

Engvall is staying.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

OTT - Colin White

Further to this, apparently he was almost dealt to MTL at the TDL.

 

[GreenLine]

I don't think Scheifele gets traded unless Wheeler goes first AND they get great value (3 firsts +). There's certainly nothing to indicate he's on the market

 

[Holls Blackmail]

Engvall is staying.

6 games doesn’t make up for 2.5 years.