player feuds on the same team

[thefifthsedin*]

do you guys have some names on players on the same team that played alongside each other for a substantial amount of time [a minimum of one or two seasons at least] that at the same time couldn't stand each other on a personal 'off ice level' ... or locker room level ... but still was thriving when playing the game on ice ... not necessarily on the same line but at least on the same team

it doesn't only have to be guys that right out hated each other, but also players with slight animosities towards each other that displayed mutual respect as professionals and performed well on ice

it's not the locker room cancer type of player [sean avery] or the antithesis of a team player ... but more of a one on one player feud

i'm aware that some things never goes or reaches outside the team|locker room to the media but there must be some examples or stories about such occurences as it's pretty common that people in general doesn't always go along with each other

 

[MS]

Wayne Gretzky and Luc Robitaille never really got along all that well in Los Angeles, despite being the two top offensive players there for years.

Luc was not invited on Gretzky's '99 All-Stars Tour' during the '94 lockout while guys like Pat Conacher were.

 

[thefifthsedin*]

trevor kidd said some nasty things about pavel bure after bure was traded to new york

like what?

anyone know what the deal was with robitaille and gretzky? i've heard this a lot, but then robitaille called gretzky his idol in his HOF speech and had such good things to say about playing with the great one.

oh, come on ... what are you supposed to say in a hof speech? that you and the great one didn't get along off ice?

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

like what?

"Anybody that doesn't think the organization did the right thing by trading Pavel, if they spent five minutes in the dressing room, they wouldn't be speaking negatively about the trade. Everyone that's been around him knows what he brings to the table - that's goals, and that's it."

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/musicfilmcardstrivia/a/02hockey_quotes.htm

oh, come on ... what are you supposed to say in a hof speech? that you and the great one didn't get along off ice?

yeah, but it seemed weird that robitaille went out of his way to mention gretzky several times. i mean, brett hull didn't even mention adam oates once in his speech. i'm not doubting that they didn't get along, i'm just curious about the story and maybe why robitaille is, or at least wants to seem, so buddy buddy with gretzky now.

 

[thefifthsedin*]

"Anybody that doesn't think the organization did the right thing by trading Pavel, if they spent five minutes in the dressing room, they wouldn't be speaking negatively about the trade. Everyone that's been around him knows what he brings to the table - that's goals, and that's it."

bure being kind of antisocial to the team isn't any news really, it probably wasn't personal against kidd or anyone in florida ...

brett hull didn't even mention adam oates once in his speech

that's not a surprise to me ... hull seems to be a pretty ego person, and what is he supposed to say about adam oates anyways? 'oh, and when i was in st. louis this guy adam oates made me score tons of goals' ... oates isn't as great as a player, or especially not as a concept, as wayne gretzky ... hull probably thinks he is a better player than oates too ...

robitaille, and everyone else, knows gretzky's a better player than him ... i guess it's about position and that kind of stuff, it's a bunch of politicians

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Wasn't it with Corey's daughter?

hadn't heard that one before. maybe it was both, who knows?

bure being kind of antisocial to the team isn't any news really, it probably wasn't personal against kidd or anyone in florida ...



that's not a surprise to me ... hull seems to be a pretty ego person, and what is he supposed to say about adam oates anyways? 'oh, and when i was in st. louis this guy adam oates made me score tons of goals' ... oates isn't as great as a player, or especially not as a concept, as wayne gretzky ... hull probably thinks he is a better player than oates too ...

robitaille, and everyone else, knows gretzky's a better player than him ... i guess it's about position and that kind of stuff, it's a bunch of politicians

what i meant about hull/robitaille, is that hull made a point not to mention any teammates because he would inevitably have to leave some out. yzerman didn't mention any teammates either, except the two guys who were also being inducted.

i didn't mean that hull was a jerk, and really it was a nice speech. hull and oates were best friends when they were in st. louis and hull has credited oates with his success many many times over the years. my point was that, out of everybody he ever played with, he didn't EVEN mention oates, who he always acknowledges as being incredibly important in getting him to where he is, and who is a close friend. so why does robitaille go out of his way to thank wayne multiple times? why does he talk about how wayne was his idol and how he loved the 80s oilers?

kind of makes me suspect that maybe it was wayne who was cold to him, and not the other way around. but that's just conjecture. anyone know the real story?

 

[reckoning]

There was a rumour back in the nineties that Cam Neely and Ray Bourque weren't getting along, supposedly because Neely was upset about Bourque playing for less money than he was worth; and with Bourque being Boston's best player, Sinden used that to keep the other players salaries low.

 

[Dark Shadows]

bure being kind of antisocial to the team isn't any news really, it probably wasn't personal against kidd or anyone in florida ...

He was criticizing both Bure's antisocial behavior and his one dimensional , team detrimental play.

 

[Dark Shadows]

There was a rumour back in the nineties that Cam Neely and Ray Bourque weren't getting along, supposedly because Neely was upset about Bourque playing for less money than he was worth; and with Bourque being Boston's best player, Sinden used that to keep the other players salaries low.

Strange. Bourque filed for arbitration a few times in the early 90's after refusing a few very low offers, And lost, forced to take the lower offer.

 

[Canadiens1958]

Ed Belfour

Ed Belfour did not get along with any of his back-up goalies.

 

[lextune]

There was a rumour back in the nineties that Cam Neely and Ray Bourque weren't getting along, supposedly because Neely was upset about Bourque playing for less money than he was worth; and with Bourque being Boston's best player, Sinden used that to keep the other players salaries low.

Not in Boston there wasn't.....

The story here after the '89 season was that it was a travesty that Ray was barely in the top ten for salaries in the league.

And in 90/91 Ray was given the fourth highest salery in the league (after Gretz, Mario and Yzerman).

There could be no way that Cam, (or anyone else for that matter), could be upset with Ray since, (as DS mentioned), he was always trying to get what he was worth from the cheap-ass Jacobs family.

 

[reckoning]

Not in Boston there wasn't.....

The story here after the '89 season was that it was a travesty that Ray was barely in the top ten for salaries in the league.

And in 90/91 Ray was given the fourth highest salery in the league (after Gretz, Mario and Yzerman).

There could be no way that Cam, (or anyone else for that matter), could be upset with Ray since, (as DS mentioned), he was always trying to get what he was worth from the cheap-ass Jacobs family.

I should stress that I'm going by my memory here, which may very well be faulty. I also worried that it may have been in a Al Strachan column I'm not having much luck finding anything online about it, though the one-sentence previews on Google News Archive Search aren't much help anyways.

Bourque did go for arbitration, but could he have gotten more by holding out instead?

In the book Money Players, Sinden complains about how the Blues signing Scott Stevens to that free agent deal forced him to pay Bourque and Neely in total at least a million more than he planned on.

 

[lextune]

Ahhhh....now I recall the story you are thinking of.

Supposedly Cam was hammered at his retirement party and made some remarks about money in regards to Ray, but even if true, one drunken moment between two long time teammates and friends at his retirement hardly counts as a feud.

Much more common around that time was the sight of Cam breaking down when talking about how honored he was to have played with, and been friends with "the best defensman in the world"

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

off the top of my head, i recall bourque skating up to hull in a game after hull signed his first million dollar contract in st. louis, which i believe made him the first non-gretzky/lemieux player to ever make a million dollars in one season. bourque reportedly said to him, "congratulations on the contract. this is good for all of us."

on the other hand, i recall something about the PA-- i think this was sometime around the '95 lockout-- complaining about bourque not doing his part as the best defenseman in the game to escalate the pay scale for defenseman.

but these are just foggy recollections 15-20 years later.

 

[Oilers1*]

I remember hearing Bob McKenzie talk on TSN about how Oates and Neely both went to Bourque and begged (I remember that word being used) him to ask for more money from the Bruins because Boston was using his salary as an excuse not to pay other players ('no one should get paid more than Bourque) and it ended up in guys being traded and the Bruins spinning their wheels.

I remember hearing several times that Bourque's salaris in the late 80s, early 90s kept defensemen underpaid because he was the best and GMs wouldn't pay anyone more than him.

No, I don't have sources. Going by memory.

Having said that, I never heard that any of Bourque's teammates didn't like him, just that they disagreed with him on the particular issue.

 

[Moses Doughty]

Brown still doesnt like Avery for making fun of his lisp. Scott Thornton broke his hand in LA becasue of fighting with the crap known as Avery. Man I miss Scotty.

 

[supaman]

Fuhr and Moog back in the 80's.

 

[cynicism]

Ed Belfour did not get along with any of his back-up goalies.

Oh come on! Him and Auld were just having some innocent wrestling in a hotel lobby.

 

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[TheHotRock]

i don't think lindros and rod brind'amour were pals

 

[BillD]

Yashin and Peca on the Islanders 2001-2006.
Peca was captain but also envied the contract that Yashin signed.
He basically split the locker room with a personal vendetta, which wound up getting Peter Laviolette fired when he couldn't/wouldn't solve it. Peca and Laviolette were reported to be good freinds and neighbors off ice.

 

[Padan]

Fuhr and Moog back in the 80's.

Is that well-known? I've never heard about that before and always thought of those as classy guys.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

This doesn't meet the full necessities of the OP but it has been well-documented through historic accounts. Back to the early 1970s, Barry Ashbee had low tolerance for a player named Rick Foley (who was acquired for the better-known Andre Lacroix). Foley had the tools to be a solid NHL player but not necessarily the inner discipline. He was rumored to be 28 pounds overweight when he reported to one camp. Ashbee despised Foley's lack of conditioning and both on-ice and off-ice temperament and even went to management over the issue. Supposedly, Ashbee, an early vet leader of the team, issued an ultimatum to GM Keith Allen about Foley. Fred Shero was quoted as saying something to the effect of "The more I tell him about the weight, the bigger he gets."

 

[re5piration]

Janney and Shanahan in St. Louis.

 

[Flashspec]

Ed Belfour did not get along with any of his back-up goalies.

I didn't hear too much about him and Turco though, and looks like Belfour's puckhandling rubbed off on Turco a bit too.

Wasn't there something in the Leafs dressing room a few years back between Roberts/Tucker/Corson/Mogilny or something along those lines