Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: A New Error?

[Ugene Magic]

That is horrifically bad. Worse than if you just traded Letang for a first.

Not at all.

You get the main pieces back in 1st 2021, Puljujarvi - 4th overall 2016 and our 6th back in 2021.

That's essentially 2 firsts back.

A defender and vet goaltender for the rest of the season.

 

[pensfan71]

Not at all.

You get the main pieces back in 1st 2021, Puljujarvi - 4th overall 2016 and our 6th back in 2021.

That's essentially 2 firsts back.

A defender and vet goaltender for the rest of the season.

Puljujarvi is not playing at 4th overall caliber, soo no its not 2 firsts

 

[Turin]

Not at all.

You get the main pieces back in 1st 2021, Puljujarvi - 4th overall 2016 and our 6th back in 2021.

That's essentially 2 firsts back.

A defender and vet goaltender for the rest of the season.

Yea a bust of a first round pick. Great. Lol

 

[Turin]

Also Edmonton can’t afford Letang for Russell and picks. They are capped out.

 

[pensfan71]

I know there was the impression Sid and Geno could help turn Puls around, but these guys can barley get themselves going with established players, so personally I'd pass on that

 

[Ugene Magic]

Puljujarvi is not playing at 4th overall caliber, soo no its not 2 firsts

His development is over then...?

 

[OnMyOwn]

I don’t get the feeling the rumor is the pens offered this but it’s the oilers who did/are? I doubt Hextall put Letang out there immediately without watching the guys play any games.

 

[pensfan71]

His development is over then...?

I think if you're trading Letang, you'd expect more than a prayer. That's just my opinion, if we get him and he tears it up, I will admit stupidity, but right now I don't think its smart

 

[The Old Master]

The problems are many with regards to the defense. It seemed like Rutherford thought that by dumping Justin Schultz, Matt Murray and Jack Johnson, presto our defense and goaltending would get better. But he is an old fool whose time was done after 2017.

if we didn't have 5 defensemen out the old fool would of been right.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I think if you're trading Letang, you'd expect more than a prayer. That's just my opinion, if we get him and he tears it up, I will admit stupidity, but right now I don't think its smart

That's fair, plus with how things are looking, the end might more near than we thought.

There certainly could be better fits put in there for our end, maybe just 2 1sts straight up with fillers for that package, but it's meaningless if this is an offseason trade with only one season of Letang on the books.

 

[Ugene Magic]

If Letang goes to Edmonton...we get f***ed unless we get a monster return, which the rumour doesn't seem likely and that Oilers offence goes nuts...Letang is frustrating but having him do breakouts to McJesus and Drai is crazy

Actually, they'll still score at their normal rate and they'll all still be on an island. Letang isn't going to fix there situation. They over extend the top 3 as it is. That's just to stay afloat.

 

[Gurglesons]

Moving Letang makes less and less sense the more Marino flails.

We have no RD in the system, top four RD is the most expensive asset to acquire in the game, and Hamilton is really the only good one coming up in UFA.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Moving Letang only makes sense (at the moment) for a younger, less elite RD.

 

[Gurglesons]

Moving Letang only makes sense (at the moment) for a younger, less elite RD.

And why is anyone doing that lol

 

[HandshakeLine]

And why is anyone doing that lol

Because they'd be dumb and we should fleece them out of pure principle. Which means I don't think Letang's getting traded this year.

 

[DesertPenguin]

D healthy and playing their roles will improve the team. But the emergence of POJ should allow a deal to be made. I prefer Petts to move for a decent forward or good prospect/pick. Save the 4 million in cap space and get Matheson playing and becoming better in the system. He does have the skill set to be better. I also hope Dumo can return to near his peak form as well. No question they need Hamilton to take Letangs place next year. For now:
Letang Dumo
Marino Matheson
POJ Ceci
Ruhwedel Riikola

Dumo looked like hot garbage after coming back from injury, and the beginning of this season was no better. I hate to say it but I wonder if he never makes it back to where he was. He's a good soldier, one of the last vets from the two cups believe it or not, but he isn't someone I show the same loyalty to as Crosby, Malkin, Letang. On the other hand, Pettersson was the only D doing well until he got assassinated at center ice. I'm hoping to see him slide back into the lineup and pick up where he left off. If that happens, i think Dumo is the trade piece. In name and experience alone he should fetch a nice return, a F to help us now or picks to replace the empty cupboard.

 

[Ryder71]

Trade Dumoulin and McCann for assets. As well as Sceviour, Erod, Lafferty, and Jankowski, but I don't think they'd get you much.

Once again we are on the same page. Dumo and McCann would be the first two to go that might have any value whatsoever. The problem is Dumo is injured. So, I'm not sure what team would want him in that case. At least anytime soon.

 

[Borgir]

I live in Edmonton and there have been many Letang to Edmonton rumours for a few weeks now on talk radio. One even included Klefbom.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Letang would never waive to go to Edmonton so I think it's a moot point on the discussion.

I think you only move Letang if you have a contract lined up with Dougie Hamilton or if you're tearing it down completely.

 

[CTZ181]

Elliotte Friedman said today that Pittsburgh has always intended on Crosby, Malkin, Letang retiring as Penguins. He also said they don't plan on making major moves until they see how this season plays out. All discussion about trading any of the above can be put on hold for now IMO.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Heard a rumor Letang to the Oilers for Kris Russell and picks ... take it with a grain of salt. Heard oilers GM is desperate

I live in Edmonton and there have been many Letang to Edmonton rumours for a few weeks now on talk radio. One even included Klefbom.

If Ken Holland is desperate, Hextall should be looking into taking advantage of that. Perhaps selling him on Matheson's puck moving abilities. He should also see if GMKH is interested in a slightly used, signed for another two years, two time Cup Champion Brian Dumoulin.

Pens would then have to take on salary/cap for this year.

Funny that the Oilers could use Marino right now, though.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I live in Edmonton and there have been many Letang to Edmonton rumours for a few weeks now on talk radio. One even included Klefbom.

He's a LD, though. On LTIR.

I'd want to fleece them as well. They are the desperate ones. I'd want a RD back plus more. If it has to expand out further to make it feel like both parties are comfortable I'm fine with that, too.

LD seems full.

 

[Gurglesons]

Klefbom also has missed like large parts of 2 of the last three years.

 

[Borgir]

Klefbom also has missed like large parts of 2 of the last three years.

There is word that he could be retiring too. It's just a contract off the books and the ability to hide that contract. I guess I could see the appeal but the point in all moot.

 

[Borgir]

If Ken Holland is desperate, Hextall should be looking into taking advantage of that. Perhaps selling him on Matheson's puck moving abilities. He should also see if GMKH is interested in a slightly used, signed for another two years, two time Cup Champion Brian Dumoulin.

Pens would then have to take on salary/cap for this year.

Funny that the Oilers could use Marino right now, though.

Larrson incoming,