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Last year was also his first 30 goal season since 17-18, and the season before he only had 15 goals and 37 points in 70 games. Most teams looking to add him are probably contenders looking to put him on their 2nd line where he won't be playing with a Crosby level centre, so they are probably understandably skeptical that he would repeat last season.
GM's know what he is, and they will not judge him for being on a crappy Ducks team at the end there, and they certainly won't judge him on a season where he had an injured shoulder.

They will see...

2022/23: 82 | 28 - 32 - 60
2023/24: 70 | 15-22 - 37 <-----Bum shoulder injury
2024/25: 82 | 35-35 - 70

Last, he doesn't even need to repeat his last season, he's fine as a 28 - 32 - 60 guy. Crosby doesn't make players any better than they already are. He topped his previous best 34 - 35 -69 when he played as a center for Anaheim. He's his own man, he's quite skilled in his own like.
 
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It's the anchor that no one is addressing here.

Also LM doesn't have a path in Montreal and is a borderline NHL full time Dman and that's probably not going to change.
What the hell are you talking about? The Habs have only Carrier on the right side currently, and they need RD so bad that they played all of Hutson, Guhle, and Struble at RD at various times last season, and that was with Savard there who is now retired. There is absolutely a spot for BOTH Reinbacher and Mailloux in MTL right now; they just need to seize the opportunity. MTL has literally no other RD aside from Carrier right now, which is why trading Mailloux or Reinbacher as it stands now makes absolutely zero sense.
 
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What the hell are you talking about? The Habs have only Carrier on the right side currently, and they need RD so bad that they played all of Hutson, Guhle, and Struble at RD at various times last season, and that was with Savard there who is now retired. There is absolutely a spot for BOTH Reinbacher and Mailloux in MTL right now; they just need to seize the opportunity. MTL has literally no other RD aside from Carrier right now, which is why trading Mailloux or Reinbacher as it stands now makes absolutely zero sense.
Come back in 2 years and let me know how ML is working out as a top 4 Dman in Montreal, I just don't see it happening and my bet is most Hab fans know this already.

Reinbacher is by far the btter prospect and long term RD for the Habs and having a leftie that can switch is a better fit for montreal.

MM
Hutson
Guhle
Carrier
Reinbacher

Fill ins for PK ect...

Heck Engstrom is a better long term Dman prospect for the Habs as well.
 
Come back in 2 years and let me know how ML is working out as a top 4 Dman in Montreal, I just don't see it happening and my bet is most Hab fans know this already.

Reinbacher is by far the btter prospect and long term RD for the Habs and having a leftie that can switch is a better fit for montreal.

MM
Hutson
Guhle
Carrier
Reinbacher

Fill ins for PK ect...

Heck Engstrom is a better long term Dman prospect for the Habs as well.
Mailloux's biggest obstacle is Hutson, who fills a big part of the offensive D requirement. Without Hutson, Mailloux could hope to be sheltered and given prime offensive icetime, but that isn't going to happen.
 
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Where do you get that from? They 6.1 million in cap space. They can go into LTIR, but as is said ad nauseam, LTIR is NOT increased cap space. It's actually more of a hindrance than a help if you need to dip into it over the summer. I really hope they're able to dump that contract post-July 1 after the SB is paid.

LTIR is increased capspace in that the Habs can over the cap limit. Which they might based on Price’s contract.

As a result, Habs have a ton of capspace and accommodating Laine is not an issue at all.

Habs can be buyers if they want this offseason. Tons if capspace.
 
Come back in 2 years and let me know how ML is working out as a top 4 Dman in Montreal, I just don't see it happening and my bet is most Hab fans know this already.
We’ll see after this season. Habs aren’t trading any RD without bringing some in first. That may or may not happen this summer. Also, your opinion on this as a non-Habs fan means very little. Thanks for weighing in with your expertise.
Reinbacher is by far the btter prospect and long term RD for the Habs and having a leftie that can switch is a better fit for montreal.
Doesn’t matter. There’s a spot for both as it stands right now. It’s up to them to seize the opportunity, like I said. If they don’t, then a trade starts to make sense. And no, playing multiple LD on their off side because you have no other choice is not the better option by any stretch of the imagination.
Heck Engstrom is a better long term Dman prospect for the Habs as well.
He’s another LD - he has nothing to do with Mailloux’s chances of making the team. In fact, he, if anyone, might be the guy with “no path in MTL”, not Mailloux. Right now, Engstrom has Hutson, Guhle, Matheson, Struble, and Xhekaj above him on the depth chart - gonna be a tough road to playing time with the big club for him. The path for Reinbacher and Mailloux is much more clear as it stands right now.
 
Come back in 2 years and let me know how ML is working out as a top 4 Dman in Montreal, I just don't see it happening and my bet is most Hab fans know this already.

Reinbacher is by far the btter prospect and long term RD for the Habs and having a leftie that can switch is a better fit for montreal.

MM
Hutson
Guhle
Carrier
Reinbacher

Fill ins for PK ect...

Heck Engstrom is a better long term Dman prospect for the Habs as well.

Matheson's contract is done in 2026.
 
Why would Montreal absolutely NEED to dump Laine? He’s got one year left and they have ~24M in cap space with no one notable to sign

Well, CBJ got rid of him and instantly got way better. Rakell probably wouldn’t be getting benched and might actually be a net positive

I know I’m a Pens fan, but I’m not really a fan of Laine anymore and unsure if I want him on the Pens anyways.

I also think getting something productive back for him is gonna be tough, considering his value is probably lower than it was when CBJ paid a 2nd to get rid of him. If Montreal wants to move him, obviously
 
IMO, he's going to be too pricey for his reduced role with Hutson there.

Habs can find a better fit than him.
Probably, lets see how next season plays out as the Habs can really build from this season and I think Hage and Beck have the most promising future among the forward prospects aside from Demidov of course.

The development of Reinbacher is key to the back end as well, if he progresses as many think then there is a good solid and deep core but of course you have to ride out Anderson and Gallagher contracts through 26-27, along with Laine next year but that's manageable.

Like several other teams getting a legit second line center would sure help the transition as well.
 
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Well, CBJ got rid of him and instantly got way better. Rakell probably wouldn’t be getting benched and might actually be a net positive

I know I’m a Pens fan, but I’m not really a fan of Laine anymore and unsure if I want him on the Pens anyways.

I also think getting something productive back for him is gonna be tough, considering his value is probably lower than it was when CBJ paid a 2nd to get rid of him. If Montreal wants to move him, obviously
Montreal traded for him and made the playoffs when not a single person expected them to make it
 
Well, CBJ got rid of him and instantly got way better. Rakell probably wouldn’t be getting benched and might actually be a net positive

I know I’m a Pens fan, but I’m not really a fan of Laine anymore and unsure if I want him on the Pens anyways.

I also think getting something productive back for him is gonna be tough, considering his value is probably lower than it was when CBJ paid a 2nd to get rid of him. If Montreal wants to move him, obviously
Well Montreal acquired him and also got way better when he came back from his knee injury.

I also think Montreal should and will ride out his contract next year and then move on.
 
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Well, CBJ got rid of him and instantly got way better. Rakell probably wouldn’t be getting benched and might actually be a net positive

I know I’m a Pens fan, but I’m not really a fan of Laine anymore and unsure if I want him on the Pens anyways.

I also think getting something productive back for him is gonna be tough, considering his value is probably lower than it was when CBJ paid a 2nd to get rid of him. If Montreal wants to move him, obviously
Montreal got him and unexpectedly made the playoffs over CBJ. ;)
 
I mean no disrespect but this is a typical Bergevin move.

Yes, MTL probably wins value-wise (I don't believe in Mailloux and wish he was traded while he still has value) but it accomplishes nothing in the grand scheme of things.

How many wingers have MTL banked their future success on in the last 20 years, to appease the media and rabid fans, for them to perform decently after their acquisition and yet have an entirely forgettable impact on the team's trajectory? Tanguay, Cole, Shaw, Anderson, Toffoli - why would Rackell be any different?

Trade Mailloux and other players/picks for players that we actually need to build an identity and make an impact (C, RHD).
 
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Regardless of value, Montreal's not in a point in their rebuild (or have a need) to acquire a 32 year old RWer. So they almost definitely pass.

Well, CBJ got rid of him and instantly got way better. Rakell probably wouldn’t be getting benched and might actually be a net positive

I know I’m a Pens fan, but I’m not really a fan of Laine anymore and unsure if I want him on the Pens anyways.

I also think getting something productive back for him is gonna be tough, considering his value is probably lower than it was when CBJ paid a 2nd to get rid of him. If Montreal wants to move him, obviously

Montreal got Laine and made the playoffs. In fact, they were 31st in the league when he came back from injury and were tied for 11th in points from that point on.

I also have no idea how he has less value with a higher cap, less term and a much better season.
 
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Rakell doesnt fit our need. Then no from Montreal perspective. We need a 2nd centerman and top 4 RD. I would prefer to spend money, keep assets and sign someone like Grandlund, Tavares or Duchene.
 
never..everyone loves to flame habs trade proposals..but you think you're getting a top 5 pick / 20 yo / RD for a 32 year old winger?

As some have already mentioned, I prefer to trade Mailloux and that 1st for someone younger that fits the rebuild
Malloux doesn't move the needle in terms of trade bait.
 

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