Confirmed Trade: [PIT/TOR] Conor Timmins, Connor Dewar for 2025 5th round pick

[wej20]

Timmins and Dewar have both been very good for the Penguins. Dewar is just a 4th liner, but he actually finishes his hits (which no one else on this team seems to do) and goes to the dirty areas. Timmins just looks like a damn solid bottom pair RD.

With Karlsson likely being traded this off-season, I’d definitely keep Timmins around going forward. Dewar is whatever but way better than the Nietos and Acciaris of the world in the spot.

Really like the Timmins acquisition, there might be some untapped potential there. Dewar's looked decent too but I can see Sully falling in love with him and bumping him up the lineup.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Dewar is whatever but I always liked Timmins. Unfortunately he played for Treliving and Berube who prefer their defensemen to have rocks for brains and zero offensive skills so they prefer Simon Benoit and Phil Myers lol

 

[dirtydanglez]

timmins has the skill but he's the epitome of a player than cant stay healthy.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

Dewar has been awesome in the Penguins, Fits the bill.

I'm just so mad that his name isn't pronounced like The War.

 

[The Shadow]

Not surprised. Penguins are garbage but they have Crosby in the room who isn't a complete loser. Leafs have no leadership you could import McDavid, Draisatl, MacKinnon, Makar, Q. Hughes, all onto the Leafs and give them 40 games they will all lose any edge and heart they play with.

Agreed. The culture in the leafs room is rotten. Not winners

 

[Turin]

Why did Dubas pay for these players?

Apparently they are our best players

 

[SEALBound]

Really like the Timmins acquisition, there might be some untapped potential there. Dewar's looked decent too but I can see Sully falling in love with him and bumping him up the lineup.

Yeah, that's a big worry of mine. We shouldn't be falling in love with bottom 6 players that might block a younger prospect. If Dewar scores 10 in the last 20, then it's reasonable to bring him back but I'd make it a 1yr deal at the 950k level. Basically a "prove it". Best case, he continues to progress. Worst case, goes to WBS or you lose him to waivers. Basically what Nieto is for us but you learn a f***ing lesson and you only do a 1yr deal.

 

[Sideline]

Yeah, that's a big worry of mine. We shouldn't be falling in love with bottom 6 players that might block a younger prospect. If Dewar scores 10 in the last 20, then it's reasonable to bring him back but I'd make it a 1yr deal at the 950k level. Basically a "prove it". Best case, he continues to progress. Worst case, goes to WBS or you lose him to waivers. Basically what Nieto is for us but you learn a f***ing lesson and you only do a 1yr deal.

Agreed. Hayes, Acciari, Heinen, and Lizotte is already too much meh in the bottom six. It needs thinning out.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Agreed. Hayes, Acciari, Heinen, and Lizotte is already too much meh in the bottom six. It needs thinning out.

Dewar is the kind of player I'd be keeping while I'd be moving out Hayes, Acciari and Heinen.

Dewar may not be much, but he's actually fairly young and finishes his checks. That's more than most of the rest of their bottom-6 can say. They should be targeting more guys in that Dewar/Lizotte/Glass age range to play in the bottom-6 going forward.

 

[Sideline]

Dewar is the kind of player I'd be keeping while I'd be moving out Hayes, Acciari and Heinen.

Dewar may not be much, but he's actually fairly young and finishes his checks. That's more than most of the rest of their bottom-6 can say. They should be targeting more guys in that Dewar/Lizotte/Glass age range to play in the bottom-6 going forward.

I agree on a vacuum. I think it will be harder to move off Hayes, Acciari, and Heinen given their relatively high salaries. In a perfect would all three of those guys are gone for Ponomarov, McGroarty, and Koivunen next year.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Dewar is the kind of player I'd be keeping while I'd be moving out Hayes, Acciari and Heinen.

Dewar may not be much, but he's actually fairly young and finishes his checks. That's more than most of the rest of their bottom-6 can say. They should be targeting more guys in that Dewar/Lizotte/Glass age range to play in the bottom-6 going forward.

Agreed.

To me he was just a nothing burger.if he wants to play a nother year here 1 million.


Timmins though RFA next year and is a RD. Potential press box/#6 for us.
I definitely would offer 1.3 million (still buriable) and let him come back next year.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Real happy with both pickups. I don't like Timmins as a #4 if they move Karlsson but he's fine in the 3rd pair. Dewar is far better on the 4th line than a lot of the empty shirts we trotted out there all season. I don't think either player really blocks the kids next year either.

Dewar - Lizotte - Acciari is OK as a 4th line next season. Let the kids fill in on the 2nd and 3rd while that line does the dirty work. Still think we need a top 6F and a total defensive makeover though.

Brunicke is coming on RD but is still at least a year away. Timmins can keep it warm in between.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I agree on a vacuum. I think it will be harder to move off Hayes, Acciari, and Heinen given their relatively high salaries. In a perfect would all three of those guys are gone for Ponomarov, McGroarty, and Koivunen next year.

Two of them can sit in the press box. Injuries happen.

Rakell Crosby Rust
McGroarty Malkin Koivunen
Ponomarev Novak Tomasino
Dewar Lizotte Acciari
Hayes Heinen

I still think you need one more top 6 F if Dubas is serious about climbing out of this hole. We'll see. I'd happily bump Acciari out and shift everyone down on the above list to accommodate.

 

[chethejet]

Pens will move a couple players like Hayes or Heinen this off season. Cap going up gives teams room for a vet. Timmins healthy has a pedigree of a high pick. With time and health, he can be a solid RD. I like his smarts and upside here. D men just tend to be a work in process.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Not to take away from Timmins but he did the same thing when he got to Toronto. He had 14 points in 25 games on paper, but I think he got almost all of those in a 12-13 game stretch where it looked like he was a monster.

Then the defensive issues popped up, he got pushed further down the lineup until he was playing a safe puck off the glass game.

So he is basically too bad at defense to be higher up the lineup to make his offense worthwhile, and not good enough at other areas of the game for the bottom pair.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Not to take away from Timmins but he did the same thing when he got to Toronto. He had 14 points in 25 games on paper, but I think he got almost all of those in a 12-13 game stretch where it looked like he was a monster.

Then the defensive issues popped up, he got pushed further down the lineup until he was playing a safe puck off the glass game.

So he is basically too bad at defense to be higher up the lineup to make his offense worthwhile, and not good enough at other areas of the game for the bottom pair.

Pretty much. Plus he’s extremely injury prone.

Should be a fine #6 for the Pens

 

[Rudy Russo]

Pens will move a couple players like Hayes or Heinen this off season. Cap going up gives teams room for a vet. Timmins healthy has a pedigree of a high pick. With time and health, he can be a solid RD. I like his smarts and upside here. D men just tend to be a work in process.

Heinen will be a lot easier to move then Hayes due to his contract. I feel the penguins maybe stuck with Hayes till next years trade deadline, but at least they got draft picks for him.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Not surprised. Penguins are garbage but they have Crosby in the room who isn't a complete loser. Leafs have no leadership you could import McDavid, Draisatl, MacKinnon, Makar, Q. Hughes, all onto the Leafs and give them 40 games they will all lose any edge and heart they play with.

Wow...this was a take someone legitimately had. First off, as a Pens fan, I wouldn't go that far. Sid seems to not give a rats ass as long as he keeps getting pandered to.

He started the season all kinds of ass, Geno started well, Sid didn't seem to give two f***s when Sullivan absolutely destroyed Malkin so he could get his line going.

Sid is a legend, don't get me wrong, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like as a Pens fan, I didn't see that shit literally to down and continue and Sid just happily supports Sullivan because why wouldn't he? Sullivan will prioritize winning to make Sid happy and it's not like Sullivan is capable of winning much anymore anyway.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Heinen will be a lot easier to move then Hayes due to his contract. I feel the penguins maybe stuck with Hayes till next years trade deadline, but at least they got draft picks for him.

A coach that isn't Sullivan could make Hayes easier to trade by actually deploying a system that isn't absolute shit and use his players in the most idiotic and ignorant ways.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Dewar has been awesome in the Penguins, Fits the bill.

I'm just so mad that his name isn't pronounced like The War.

I'm sure you can drive down to Philly and find someone who pronounces it like that.

Good cheap move for Pitt. Dewar is a solid bottom 6er (best on 4th line) and Timmins has enough skill that he can be a useful guy if they keep him healthy. Think he needs more minutes than he could get in TO to really find a groove.

 

[Warden of the North]

I'm sure you can drive down to Philly and find someone who pronounces it like that.

Good cheap move for Pitt. Dewar is a solid bottom 6er (best on 4th line) and Timmins has enough skill that he can be a useful guy if they keep him healthy. Think he needs more minutes than he could get in TO to really find a groove.

He can't handle more minutes. He's a 7th D on a playoff team.

 

[chethejet]

Timmins hasn't played much due to concussions. But watching him, he has the size mobility and smarts as a RH RD to be a above a 3rd pairing player as he gets PT. I disagree, on his upside, he can become a solid RD and if paired with a good LD, he is fine.