Confirmed Trade: [PIT/NSH] Philip Tomasino for 2027 4th round pick

[Soundgarden]

This trade makes no sense for both teams.

Pittsburgh gets a free top 6 forward who's 23. There should be fans of 30 teams going why didn't my GM get him, he only cost a 4th.

 

[Petes2424]

Some folks make great coaches but not great GMs. Seems that Trotz is one of them.

So far he has:
Lost Fabbro to waivers - stupid
Traded Tomasino for 4th - very stupid

I get Trotz wants to put his own stamp on this team. But losing good young talent for nothing is not the way to do it.

It’s not good young talent though. It’s very underachieving young players, who’ve both been given every opportunity to make a name for themselves.

Tomasino has over 150 NHL games. For a 23 year old winger, that’s a very good look. 150 is the point of no return on wingers, for many evaluators. Now, there’s skilled players who could have 150 games, who haven’t been given many real opportunities to play in preferred roles. Those guys are one-offs though.

Tomasino has had those opportunities throughout. Fabbro was well over the 200 game marker for young Dmen too. Never showing he’s a legit Top 4 player. Who’s had to be sheltered when playing up.

If players haven’t shown flashes of being something more than they are, many evaluators cut the chord at 150-200 games, depending on position. Trotz is cutting the chord.

As for Dubas, he’s reaching and hoping. Problem is, it’s another asset given away. They need as many draft picks as possible coming up. If Tomasino remains what he’s been, the Pens won’t get another 4th rounder back in return. He’ll end up a non-qualified free agent.

So it’s not like they didn’t give these players opportunities. The problem is, they’re so bad right now and went with a very veteran lineup. So losing 23-25 year olds with some experience still hurts some on paper. Even if they were only preferred role players moving forward.

Trotz must feel Nashville has some things coming, where they value a late 4th more than Tomasino. We’ll see what happens in Pittsburgh. He’ll be given every opportunity to contribute. He’s skilled enough where he may even look like a steal in the beginning. Fans should give it a good 50 games though, before settling into an opinion on him. The odds aren’t in his camp though.

 

[Fjordy]

This trade makes no sense for both teams.

Why for Pens no sense?

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Mike Sullivan: where potential goes to die

It just kills me that he won by being absurdly flexible, yet keeps failing with inflexibility.

It's hard to imagine that the Penguins 'lose' this trade, a 4th rounder years down the road doesn't exactly have a ton of value, but it's equally hard to imagine Sullivan trusting anyone new the way he trusted a Justin Schultz or Conor Sheary after years of short leashes and immense turnover. The Pens had a knack for being able to pull depth contributors out of nowhere for a good while, and that's completely disappeared over long enough for it to be a pattern across 3 GMs. There's been too many scapegoats magically improve upon departure and too many solid players turning into pumpkins to have faith in a coaching strategy firmly stuck in the past and either unwilling or unable to adapt.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Why for Pens no sense?

Becuase they suck.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Sure

Why not

 

[wonton15]

Dubas playing NHL25 trying to find the right 79-81 overall players to play in the lineup and produce out of nowhere

 

[Pancakes]

Pittsburgh gets a free top 6 forward who's 23. There should be fans of 30 teams going why didn't my GM get him, he only cost a 4th.

Yeah our top 6 is horrendous this year outside of Rakell. Actually come to think of it our bottom six is too .

Might as well give the kid a shot for basically free

 

[Soundgarden]

It’s not good young talent though. It’s very underachieving young players, who’ve both been given every opportunity to make a name for themselves.

Tomasino has over 150 NHL games. For a 23 year old winger, that’s a very good look. 150 is the point of no return on wingers, for many evaluators. Now, there’s skilled players who could have 150 games, who haven’t been given many real opportunities to play in preferred roles. Those guys are one-offs though.

Tomasino has had those opportunities throughout. Fabbro was well over the 200 game marker for young Dmen too. Never showing he’s a legit Top 4 player. Who’s had to be sheltered when playing up.

If players haven’t shown flashes of being something more than they are, many evaluators cut the chord at 150-200 games, depending on position. Trotz is cutting the chord.

As for Dubas, he’s reaching and hoping. Problem is, it’s another asset given away. They need as many draft picks as possible coming up. If Tomasino remains what he’s been, the Pens won’t get another 4th rounder back in return. He’ll end up a non-qualified free agent.

So it’s not like they didn’t give these players opportunities. The problem is, they’re so bad right now and went with a very veteran lineup. So losing 23-25 year olds with some experience still hurts some on paper. Even if they were only preferred role players moving forward.

Trotz must feel Nashville has some things coming, where they value a late 4th more than Tomasino. We’ll see what happens in Pittsburgh. He’ll be given every opportunity to contribute. He’s skilled enough where he may even look like a steal in the beginning. Fans should give it a good 50 games though, before settling into an opinion on him. The odds aren’t in his camp though.

Fabbro performed fine as Josi's 1st pairing partner in Josi's 95 point season.

 

[Fjordy]

Becuase they suck.

Well, for a future team, it might make sense. A young player who had 20 points in 40 games last season, and the Preds are doing some very strange things.

 

[BKarchitect]

People are way too excited about Tomasino. He's also not a center (seen that multiple times now, I assume, because NHL.com lists 80% of all forwards as "centers").

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Fabbro for nothing and Tommasino for a 4th.

Brutal start for Nashville if this is what Trotz’s “rebuild” looks like.

 

[SomeDude]

Becuase they suck.

In theory, it would make sense for us to buy low on a young forward to play him in the top 6 and then flip him for profit in a year or two.

In practice, he’s going to play 7 mins a night with Matt Nieto and Noel Acciari and we will not qualify him in July.

 

[Soundgarden]

People are way too excited about Tomasino. He's also not a center (seen that multiple times now, I assume, because NHL.com lists 80% of all forwards as "centers").

He's young cheap free and good, Pittsburgh should be excited and Preds fans should be pissed

 

[Glorydays22]

People are way too excited about Tomasino. He's also not a center (seen that multiple times now, I assume, because NHL.com lists 80% of all forwards as "centers").

Its because for a 4th, its so worth a shot for someone like him
and a 4th in 2027 no less LOL

 

[Bond]

Pittsburgh gets a free top 6 forward who's 23. There should be fans of 30 teams going why didn't my GM get him, he only cost a 4th.

Top 6 forward is a stretch

 

[Soundgarden]

Top 6 forward is a stretch

Fine, they get a 23 year old .5 ppg with potential for free.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Its because for a 4th, its so worth a shot for someone like him
and a 4th in 2027 no less LOL

Nashville is also clearing a roster spot and 825k in cap space with a draft pick.

Tomasino‘s 1 assist isn’t going to be missed.

 

[Soundgarden]

Nashville is also clearing a roster spot and 825k in cap space with a draft pick.

Tomasino‘s 1 assist isn’t going to be missed.

All of our young players have been badly mishandled.

 

[BKarchitect]

Cody Glass has had a better, more relevant season more recently than Tomasino in Nashville, ended up in Pittsburgh for free as a "young guy with pedigree and potential" and is a total useless washout.

Tomasino at least is fast but I really think Preds fans are leaning in too hard on the "everything we don't use and let go turns to gold" thing...

 

[VanillaCoke]

Tomasino for free is a reasonable gamble for Pitts

 

[Soundgarden]

Cody Glass has had a better, more relevant season more recently than Tomasino in Nashville, ended up in Pittsburgh for free as a "young guy with pedigree and potential" and is a total useless washout.

Tomasino at least is fast but I really think Preds fans are leaning in too hard on the "everything we don't use and let go turns to gold" thing...

It's been like one week since we gave away Fabbro who's now flying with Columbus. There wasn't anything wrong with Fabbro he was just horribly mismanaged. Same feeling we get with Tomasino

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Unbelievable mastermind move by Kyle Dubas, this guy never makes a mistake. Mark my words, this is a game changing move.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Cody Glass has had a better, more relevant season more recently than Tomasino in Nashville, ended up in Pittsburgh for free as a "young guy with pedigree and potential" and is a total useless washout.

Tomasino at least is fast but I really think Preds fans are leaning in too hard on the "everything we don't use and let go turns to gold" thing...

Very similarly to Fabbro we saw what he was capable of, saw him stumble slightly the following season and then just never get a reasonable shot in the lineup again. 2 games in with McCarron and Cole Smith, 3 games in the press box, 1 game in for 7 minutes, back out the next.

We are also doing the exact same thing with Evangelista and Parssinen, who both will likely be discarded as well, and they also have reasonable shots at being solid middle 6 players

 

[Some Other Flame]

Trotz kind of sucks