OT: Pirates Talk: That Skenes guy is okay at teh baseball

Mr Jeff Jimerson

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The Pirates payroll is only $42 million right now because it only counts the 4 players actually signed to deals for next year (Reynolds, Keller, IKF and Hayes). With including the arb estimates that they didn't non-tender, that takes them up to about $57 million with 10 players. Filling the remaining 16 spots with league minimum players brings that up to about $70 million.

Being realistic, the Pirates likely only have at most $30 million to add to their payroll, which brings them up to a $100 million payroll. They went from $74 million in 2023 to $84 million in 2024, I figure that $100 million estimate for 2025 is pretty reasonable. I'd expect $95 million as a more realistic bet, though.

Before any injuries (which there will obviously be) or additions, I think they're sitting with something like:

SP: Skenes, Keller, Jones, Falter and Ortiz
RP: Bednar, Santana, Holderman, Oviedo, Mlodzinski, Nicolas, Moreta and Strzelecki

C: Bart
1B: Triolo
2B: Gonzales
SS: IKF
3B: Hayes
LF: Reynolds
CF: Cruz
RF: Suwinski
DH: Yorke
Bench: Endy, Palacios, Cook and Bae

They probably have about $25 million plus $800k times how many players you add to fill out this roster (since you'd be sending down $800k players).
Are you nuts? That's the same exact lineup from last year that sucked major, major ass.
 

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Just another way to f*** small markets.

I really hope Soto signs with LA for 600 million (575 deferred until the year 2124).

I'll watch Paul pitch and that's it. Beyond his games, MLB can f*** right off.
 

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MLB is the most broken of the 4 major NA sports. AINEC.

I say that as someone who grew up w/the golden era of NBA and haven't paid attention to that league in roughly 15ish years.

"Legalized" gambling and advertising ruins sports.
 

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LAD are playing within the rules

It's just bullshit rules

The league is making money

NHL is broken and broke

You answered why MLB is the most broken with the 2nd statement.

I don't care how much money MLB baseball makes. It doesn't help me, you, or any other regular person out there.

They've designed the system to benefit the poor teams by giving them subsidized handouts, thus removing any and all incentive for cheap (but not poor) owners like Nutting to continue pulling Rowdy Tellez moves year over year.

The NHL is watered down because they've taken the physicality all but out of the game.

It's broke because hockey is an expensive sport that most people can't afford, and more importantly, 100% isn't as universally celebrated as baseball in the US, which is where most NHL teams reside.

The are also cultural factors. Black and brown people are not buying up jerseys, tickets, and product like they are with baseball, basketball, and football. That's a literal fact that can easily be looked up if you care to.
 
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