OT: Pirates Talk: Lets Play Ball

[metalan2]

Bednar and being unclutch. Name a better combo.

This team is losing 100

This is the worst Pirate team I may have ever seen. Not exaggerating.

 

[metalan2]

I would seriously be stunned if Derek Shelton is ever an MLB manager again.

He for sure will not be.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Outside of Skenes starts and seeing if Cruz has a 30 30 season nothing else is worth watching. This absolutely disgusting

Just the worst group of Pirates ever.

BC, DS deserve to be fired. Bob deserves far worse

 

[ChaosAgent]

Gorski makes an inexplicable out on the bases, because this team has the IQ of a shrub.

55-60 wins seems generous at this pointm

 

[TNT87]

Shocking another shutout. Such an embarrassing franchise.

 

[plaidchuck]

Just depressing man. If you were born after say 85 you have no memories of this team being relevant other than the ~2013-2015 blip. Not that watching three straight NLCS losses in the early 90s gives me much solace either.

 

[MrBrightside]

Firing Shelton won’t fix this mess but not doing so is the greatest indication that management and ownership really doesn’t care.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Firing Shelton won’t fix this mess but not doing so is the greatest indication that management and ownership really doesn’t care.

Management may be saving Shelton's firing for the end of the season in the hopes it will buy them another year.

I think Nutting cans both in September. Not that it will fix the mess

 

[Beauner]

They say the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s apathy.

I’m beyond hating Nutting, the FO and how this team is run. I just don’t even care anymore

 

[Empoleon8771]

This team honestly needs to redo their rebuild.

 

[xlm34]

They usually give a little false hope, but I think pretty much everyone realized this season was over after the opening series. And maybe even before that after one of the most inexcusable off seasons I’ve ever seen.

I get the Nutting factor, but it’s amazing how bad Cherington is at his job. The offense is one of the worst I can remember and there’s basically no help on the way.

 

[Coastal Kev]

They usually give a little false hope, but I think pretty much everyone realized this season was over after the opening series. And maybe even before that after one of the most inexcusable off seasons I’ve ever seen.

I get the Nutting factor, but it’s amazing how bad Cherington is at his job. The offense is one of the worst I can remember and there’s basically no help on the way.

It's truly stunning that he's traded allot of assets and has drafted in the top 10 for 5 years.............AND THAT's THE BEST LINEUP THAT HE CAN FIELD> How many are his players and how many of his players are actually worth a damn??? He should be sued for fraud.

 

[ChaosAgent]

This team honestly needs to redo their rebuild.

I wouldn't trust Cherington to be the guy who trades Skenes.

Clearly a new GM is needed. The farm system is also a nothingburger with a couple gems mixed in (Chandler, Barco, Griffin and Yorke)

 

[metalan2]

This team honestly needs to redo their rebuild.

For 30 straight seasons.

 

[metalan2]

They say the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s apathy.

I’m beyond hating Nutting, the FO and how this team is run. I just don’t even care anymore

This is exactly right. The Pirates aren't even a thought nay longer. It's as if they just do not exist.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Gorski makes an inexplicable out on the bases, because this team has the IQ of a shrub.

55-60 wins seems generous at this pointm

This made me think of "The Knights Who Say 'Ni'" so at least that made me smile.

 

[Factorial]

This is exactly right. The Pirates aren't even a thought nay longer. It's as if they just do not exist.

Then why do you pay attention to them and post ITT.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Then why do you pay attention to them and post ITT.

You'll never get a reply

Such a one note poster

I'm annoyed with the team, too, but at least I'll post after a rare win, also

 

[TooManyHumans]

They usually give a little false hope, but I think pretty much everyone realized this season was over after the opening series. And maybe even before that after one of the most inexcusable off seasons I’ve ever seen.

I get the Nutting factor, but it’s amazing how bad Cherington is at his job. The offense is one of the worst I can remember and there’s basically no help on the way.

It was definitely over before it began. They did nothing to try to improve or even avoid getting worse in the offseason. And even if you blame the owner for being cheap, it doesn't excuse the money that Cherington does spend on offense. He clearly has no clue what hitters look like.

 

[ChaosAgent]

It was definitely over before it began. They did nothing to try to improve or even avoid getting worse in the offseason. And even if you blame the owner for being cheap, it doesn't excuse the money that Cherington does spend on offense. He clearly has no clue what hitters look like.

I mean this is the guy that spent 3 years of the Pirates payroll on washed Hanley Ramirez, washed Pablo Sandoval, and bust Rusney Castillo when he had the chance to spend money on hitters. Why anyone defends his record in Boston - from WS winner to "get this guy the hell outta here as soon as possible" - and also the search firm that thinks that he is capable of working without the margin of error Boston affords - is delusion. Dude sucks as a GM. May legit be worse than Dave Littlefield when it is said and done

 

[Fogel]

With respect to Cherington, maybe I am overlooking some trades, but I can only think of Bart, Bednar (first 3 years), and Falter as positives with Endy and Yorke as maybes from trades.

5 years isn't a lot of time for drafts, but I think it leaves 2020 (Gonzalez, Mlod, Jones have debuted) as potentially pretty good if Mlod and Jones pan out as starters, 2021 (Davis) as pretty bad as Davis might be a AAAA type at 1.1 with Chandler as a bright spot with 2022 on as too early to really say outside of Skenes.