OT: Pirate Talk: Lets play ball!
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NewAgeOutlaw
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Good play to stop it but sweet jesus was it a mistake for Gonzalez to attend the Pedro Alvarez school of making throws across the diamond.
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LO freaking L. Just adjust players earning as % of league revenue. Baseball is not higher than the NBA or NHL.
Just hold the L, please. The MLBPA is not magically getting the players 60% vs. their cap/floor brethren. It is factually not happening
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Good bounceback from Mlod there after the bad O'Hearn play. In my eyes that is why you have Garcia on the bench.... O'Hearn isn't a good fielder and is also coming back from the injury. It's a 5-1 game... if Mlod blows this lead, the chances of it just being tied and needing O'Hearn's bat again are extremely low. I'm not sure why Garcia is not in the game.
Now if Mlod can't get Meyers, it's one AB from Yordan as the tying run.
Now if Mlod can't get Meyers, it's one AB from Yordan as the tying run.
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Honestly, hard to complain about that outing all around. Raise it!!!
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Let's take Abreu on the plane with us. Just such a good candidate to replace Santana. He looked sharp against Lowe who as we all know is a very good LHH
NewAgeOutlaw
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How is suggesting that not capping salaries leads to a larger share of revenue for players compared to capping salaries magical thinking? It is intuitive if you think about it for even a second.
If anything the magical thinking in this discussion has been people arguing that ownership's proposal will benefit the average player more than the players' proposal or that ownership are actually proposing a larger salary increase compared to the players (capping something to increase it sounds like a magic trick to me).
Of course I am discounting the fact that MLB revenues will clearly explode like NBA revenues did in the 80's/90's. Everybody knows the salary cap made NBA revenues explode in that era because it fixed competitive balance it definitely wasn't Michael Jordan and the Bulls with a hall of famer as a bench player making literally every other team in the sport irrelevant for a whole decade.
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Good win. We'll see how the next two series go but for the time being and the road trip, at least we just need to find a way to take one in Atlanta for a solid 3-3. They've won a ton of series but the Nationals did beat them not too long ago. We'll see how much Keller can bounce back.
We are also in sole possession of the WC1 spot after tonight.
We are also in sole possession of the WC1 spot after tonight.
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2.30 ERA the last 4 years, across 282 innings. Sign me up
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Fingers crossed we take 1/3 the next 6. Anything more than that is gravy.
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The NHL and NBA negotiate a fixed % of revenues and it works out far better for the younger, average, "middle class" player. Everything works downstream of that.
How anyone could see the journey of a player like Mangum or Ashcraft or Jacob Stallings and conclude they fare better in the MLB system vs. the NHL/NBA is really beyond me. Well actually it's not - it's just pure ideology. But hey, the 1% keeps getting their eye popping contracts so yay MLBPA I guess
NewAgeOutlaw
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Do you think it is a coincidence the league with by far the most powerful players' union is the league that doesn't have a cap in place?
The NBA operates on an escrow system. The players had to pay the owners a few years ago because the owners made local TV deals with a company that collapsed and revenues were lower than projected. That is not a better system for labor, sorry.
Also the NBPA issued a statement in support of the MLBPA in negotiations in 2022 lol. I'm sure the NBPA only did that because they are in the pocket of the top-paid baseball players, too.
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That’d be ridiculous. They can’t toss wins away like that. They could win the division with a few upgrades.
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If we continue to win and stay in the thick of the WC race/in striking distance of the division, we will make upgrades. It's just exceedingly rare to make any upgrades this far in advance of the deadline. There are only a few teams who are for sure sellers right now and there's no motivation for them to sell yet with the rest of the field (aka the buyers) being so murky.
The blown saves are a serious problem, but middle relief in particular should be a relatively cheap fix once the deadline is actually closer.
We really just need to keep focused on what's before us and shrug off the bad games when they pop up. Tonight was huge in that regard. We just had a month where we lost multiple of those kinds of games, which is horrible and will surely bite us down the line, but we managed 16-12 anyways. Given the quality of competition, if we can do similar in June, we'll be set up great for July.
I'll be content with just weathering the storm in these next two series and going 2-4, but I also am curious to see how we'll look vs the best of the NL. 2-4 would be giving up more ground on the Brewers and in the WC race. Teams from the past few years which were way more flawed than this one had a knack for playing up to their opponent when they faced them, and if we are serious about a playoff run, then we will have to get through at least one of these teams in a series.
PS- I really don't put a ton of stock into the smaller sample stuff, but Ozuna has crushed Martin Perez in his career. 4-7 with 3 doubles and also 3 walks. We'll need him and the best version of Keller tomorrow if we want to come out swinging and take the first game of the series.
The blown saves are a serious problem, but middle relief in particular should be a relatively cheap fix once the deadline is actually closer.
We really just need to keep focused on what's before us and shrug off the bad games when they pop up. Tonight was huge in that regard. We just had a month where we lost multiple of those kinds of games, which is horrible and will surely bite us down the line, but we managed 16-12 anyways. Given the quality of competition, if we can do similar in June, we'll be set up great for July.
I'll be content with just weathering the storm in these next two series and going 2-4, but I also am curious to see how we'll look vs the best of the NL. 2-4 would be giving up more ground on the Brewers and in the WC race. Teams from the past few years which were way more flawed than this one had a knack for playing up to their opponent when they faced them, and if we are serious about a playoff run, then we will have to get through at least one of these teams in a series.
PS- I really don't put a ton of stock into the smaller sample stuff, but Ozuna has crushed Martin Perez in his career. 4-7 with 3 doubles and also 3 walks. We'll need him and the best version of Keller tomorrow if we want to come out swinging and take the first game of the series.
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Braves and Dodgers. I want to jump of the Clemente this fall. Going to need to beat 1, and possibly both to get to that point. Let's lock it in boys.
Also, Lonnie White definitely turning heads in AA. That's not an overly offensive environment either. I'm always wary of the 23+ year olds suddenly figuring it out in the upper minors but definitely worth keeping an eye on moving forward.
Also, Lonnie White definitely turning heads in AA. That's not an overly offensive environment either. I'm always wary of the 23+ year olds suddenly figuring it out in the upper minors but definitely worth keeping an eye on moving forward.
He may be older as a prospect, but he is still pretty green. The most plate appearances he has ever had is 375. Griffin had more plate appearances in the minors last year than White Jr. has had last year and this year combined. He has a ton of development time to make up for so hopefully he continues to rake..
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White might end up being an interesting test for internal scouting. From what I have seen, prospect hounds aren't buying in too much yet (Longenhagen talks about him being extremely sold out to pull the ball), but that might also just be caution given all the injuries and lack of anything really since the draft year.
But given that we aspire to go on a playoff run, White is an interesting prospect. Do we cash in on him having a good season and bring some help for the MLB team? Or do we see him as an option to contribute pretty soon? Even in a platoon role, we don't have a ton of depth in that sense, so if our assessment is that he's finally arriving and can be a contributor, then he's probably worth more to us than in a trade.
Given the injury obstacles he's faced, he's a hard prospect to evaluate.
But given that we aspire to go on a playoff run, White is an interesting prospect. Do we cash in on him having a good season and bring some help for the MLB team? Or do we see him as an option to contribute pretty soon? Even in a platoon role, we don't have a ton of depth in that sense, so if our assessment is that he's finally arriving and can be a contributor, then he's probably worth more to us than in a trade.
Given the injury obstacles he's faced, he's a hard prospect to evaluate.
With a guy like White with loud tools you might be able to find one team that really likes him.
So he IMO if he keeps hitting is definitely a guy id be wouldnt hesitate to sell high on if you find a match.
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Depends on what you could get for him + another player. This team is like an inefficient portfolio made up of weird mutual funds and oddball stocks. Somehow the performance is good but there’s a lot of cleanup needed to ensure it is running as efficiently as possible.
Of course next year would be THE year. The young pitchers in the rotation have the mileage under their belts. Griffin is established as a mlb player, Ohearn is back. The pieces come together.
But because of the pending lockout, which is entirely @NewAgeOutlaw ’s fault as we all know, there’s an added wrinkle of not knowing how the new cba will look or if there will even be a season.
