Speculation: Pietrangelo to LTIRetire?

[BeranekAndNeck]

Hmm, and will the NHL use its media mouthpieces to sternly warn Vegas that it’ll be “investigating” just like they did with Evander Kane’s rehab? Nah, announcing literally months before the season starts that you will be unhealthy for a specific period of time is completely normal stuff and not cap circumvention at all.

 

[SML2]

This is a rules changes id make -- a player can't sit on IR/LTIR the full sesson and then play in playoffs. They must be active on the roster during thr season

I would make it so you can't dress a team with a cap hit that exceeds the ceiling. If someone is scratched or hurt they don't count for that game.

 

[The don godfather]

What happens in vegas stays in vegas.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Aex P to LTIR? Marner to Vegas and Alex P recovery 1st round of the playoffs

 

[Oddbob]

I'm sure you are going to have someone miss most of a season every year that has a big cap hit.

 

[Captain97]

Friedman said this has happened yearly that Pietrangelo has contemplated being done, so maybe the past two seasons and this season he's thought about it and maybe it's time he's had enough. We would be better with him because Theodore isn't inspiring confidence to be the guy, maybe Hanifin and him can tag team the responsibility.

Everyone making jokes about him coming back, Vegas couldn't replace his cap hit now then afford him again the next season because Eichel and Dorofeyev need new deals, if he doesn't play this season I think you are correct and he's done, which does make me sad.

I think Vegas is better with him when healthy and we could find ways to tweak the team and don't need to get out of his contract to improve the team, this isn't gaming anything, I think we would rather have a healthy Pietrangelo on our team.

It might be similar to what happened with Weber. He could play through the injury for years with some rehabbing but was painful and to fix it permanently would require career ending surgery.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

This is a rules changes id make -- a player can't sit on IR/LTIR the full sesson and then play in playoffs. They must be active on the roster during thr season

Yup. If you're healthy enough to play in game 1 of the playoffs then you're healthy enough to at least sit on the bench in game 80/81/82.

 

[eojsmada]

I wish the PA cared. They don't care about player safety though either, so, let the chips fall where they may.

Why would they? They get their dues, the agent still makes his money, and the player gets his money from the team.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The only difference is that Tkachuk will be activated as soon as he's healthy, not just in time for the playoffs.

Just like this year, right?

 

[ManofSteel55]

This is a rules changes id make -- a player can't sit on IR/LTIR the full sesson and then play in playoffs. They must be active on the roster during thr season

I don't know if it would even need to go that far. Make it so if a guy is on LTIR/IR for the last 2 games of the regular season, he will be ineligible to lay in the first round.

 

[WhataKnight]

To be fair, this has been bubbling for a while, and AP did back out of the Four Nations’.

One doesn’t have to look hard to see posts questioning his slowdown as far back as last fall/winter.

 

[TheBeard]

To be fair, this has been bubbling for a while, and AP did back out of the Four Nations’.

One doesn’t have to look hard to see posts questioning his slowdown as far back as last fall/winter.

If he's too injured to play then he'll be placed on LTIR, but don't expect people to just gracefully accept it when he inexplicably rekindles his passion the moment playoffs start.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

That is 100% Vegas team doctor and Lionel Hutz is 100% their team lawyer as well.

 

[Legion34]

Ya I listened to that. And he doesn’t (imo) sound like he is saying that Petro is having season ending surgery. What would that even be?

He already skipped 4 nations. He doesn’t say he might be done for the year or retire. He was clearly talking about the start of the NHL season.

Plus the new cba is going to address the cheater rule.

 

[WhataKnight]

If he's too injured to play then he'll be placed on LTIR, but don't expect people to just gracefully accept it when he inexplicably rekindles his passion the moment playoffs start.

Not too many if any gracefully accept that Stone’s injury history actually goes back to his days with the Sens, Hertl only coming back for the playoffs last season is more Mandela Effect than fact, or that the Cup winning Knights squad had an in-playoff cap hit of $81.9M.

Gracefulness is the last thing I expect.

 

[Shonky]

He looked pedestrian/awful in the playoffs. Doesn't surprise me that he is significantly hurt

 

[MoneyManny]

I don't know if it would even need to go that far. Make it so if a guy is on LTIR/IR for the last 2 games of the regular season, he will be ineligible to lay in the first round.

Just make it so injured players salaries still count on the cap at all times. It's pretty simple.

 

[Petes2424]

I've actually had a sneaking suspicion that Alex Pietrangelo was close to the end for the last 3-4 months (Honest! Ask my dad!):
--He briefly contemplated retirement in last 2022 when his daughter was ill.
-He was named to Team Canada for the 4 Nations, then suddenly pulled out to get healthy for the rest of the season even though he hadn't really missed any time.
-He then missed a few games with an unnamed injury

I don't know, it's just a feeling, but I have a sneaking suspicion the Hanifin acquisition, as well as the Theodore and McNabb extensions were a team preparing for a future without Pietrangelo.

As soon as they extended Theodore, it meant there was a good chance Pietrangelo was going to call it quits after this season, or Vegas felt comfortable he’d accept a trade to finish up his career in another city.. When they extended McNabb as well? Something is obviously up.

If they don’t trade Hague later this month, it’s a slam dunk. Especially being arbitration eligible.

It’s just going to be too much trying to trade him with 2 years left on his deal now. The injuries are catching up.

We’ll likely hear that Pietrangelo is going to have surgery and be out indefinitely. Within months of that announcement, we’ll start hearing less and less about his return until it’s accepted he’s just never coming back.

The one thing that might make him delay any decision? The Olympics. There’s a lot of people who thought the Olympics would be his final accomplishment before calling it quits. Calling it a career with 2 Cups, 2 Olympic (Gold and ??) Medals and 2 World Junior (Gold and Silver) Medals. Putting an exclamation point on being arguably the best Dman of his generation. Some may argue, but there’s a reason he’s been Canada’s first choice for every tournament during his career.

That was the one thing that made people think he’d try pushing through one more year. Maybe it’s just become too much. He has nothing else to prove.

Hate to see him be a shell of himself in another city next season. There were some playoff shifts where it was apparent time is catching up to him.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Let the man sit as long as he needs to.

 

[thebeernerd]

Gee how convenient this happens with Marner on the market huh.

 

[BHD]

Every team in the league can use these "loopholes."

Anyways, not totally surprising. Didn't he consider retirement a couple years ago?

 

[Hockey2Hockey]

It would be very on brand for Vegas to put someone on LTIR all season, use that money to sign Marner and then suddenly everyone's ready to go for the playoffs!

 

[Legion34]

Every team in the league can use these "loopholes."

Anyways, not totally surprising. Didn't he consider retirement a couple years ago?

Yep. It’s not like the tax thing. This is equally as available to all teams. Can’t blame Vegas for actually doing it

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I would make it so you can't dress a team with a cap hit that exceeds the ceiling. If someone is scratched or hurt they don't count for that game.

How does accruing cap to add players during the trade deadline work then?

 

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