Player Discussion Phillip Danault - The Centermania Edition

[NotProkofievian]

There's taking care and then there's taking care. He's looking for the best care possible.

Life comes at you fast in the business of hockey. I have no problem with Danault looking out for Danault. Vanek cost himself millions in a matter of months by refusing to sign with NYI and coming to play for us.

That said our interests just don't align. He can return some good assets.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

There's taking care and then there's taking care. He's looking for the best care possible.

I don't think Danault's 'corrupt' but yeah I mean he's going to be earning very likely in the 10(s) of millions of dollars in the next 4-6 years. Care just is not a question anymore. When 10s of millions are the baseline a difference of a million or two a season, we're not talking about 'care'. Hopefully his family would've been taken care of by now and this is all just taking it up a notch.

 

[Habs Icing]

I don't think Danault's 'corrupt' but yeah I mean he's going to be earning very likely in the 10(s) of millions of dollars in the next 4-6 years. Care just is not a question anymore. When 10s of millions are the baseline a difference of a million or two a season, we're not talking about 'care'. Hopefully his family would've been taken care of by now and this is all just taking it up a notch.

I hope you realize whatever figure will be announced that he earns, you need to halve it. With agent and taxes, these guys do not make the money everyone thinks they're making. It's more than you and me for sure but it's not puck you money.

 

[FLHabs]

In a free market it’s about maximizing gain...nothing wrong with that.

At the consequences of weakening your team? That's more selfishness imo, it's not like he's a 70 pts player. He says he wants to keep getting better offensively, but at his age, how much better can he get? At 27, you don't pay for potential, he should be in his prime right now.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I really thought he would be someone who would want to stick with the team, accept a “lesser” role as a premium 3C to step into the top-6 due to injuries and have a chance to help us solidify a strong centre group to move forward as we improve our spot and try to chase a cup eventually. That interview is extremely disappointing that he’s already sulking and pouting about a lesser role.

 

[Gains]

At the consequences of weakening your team? That's more selfishness imo, it's not like he's a 70 pts player. He says he wants to keep getting better offensively, but at his age, how much better can he get? At 27, you don't pay for potential, he should be in his prime right now.

Danault is at his peak offensively at ES. The only way he gets to 70 pts is if he starts playing on the PP

 

[Gravity]

Danault is at his peak offensively at ES. The only way he gets to 70 pts is if he starts playing on the PP

Also he's 27. He's not magically going to start producing now. What you see is what you get and he's been given ample opportunity in Mtl to showcase his abilities.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If we do trade Danault for picks/prospects, it wont hurt us that bad.
Domi will be our 3rd center. Poehling could also be our 3rd line center in a year or 2

 

[NotProkofievian]

At the consequences of weakening your team? That's more selfishness imo, it's not like he's a 70 pts player. He says he wants to keep getting better offensively, but at his age, how much better can he get? At 27, you don't pay for potential, he should be in his prime right now.

His next contract will be the most important one he signs in his life. It's smart to be a little selfish at this point in his career.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

He's a less talented Pageau and Pageau is the Islanders 3rd Centre. Maybe he's the one to trade instead of Domi.

This is actually an excellent description of Danault holy shit.

Also Danault if you don't wan to play on the third line , then goodbye.

 

[26Mats]

Suzy is our #1C going into next year and the team should let Danault and KK battle it out to see who's #2C. A healthy competition is great and they can figure it out as the year goes on.

Is it healthy for the team to have a veteran sulking if he's the loser of the battle?

Is it healthy for KK's development to have him playing with Lehkonen and Byron?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Real gamers flair the opportunity and give it their best shot to prove they're worth their money.
Losers whine and cry about not being put in the good role.

I'm incredibly disappointed by these comments. As for those who only speak English and doubt the translation; it's true. He went as far as whining about how his role in the playoffs was strictly defensive and how it would affect his future with the Montreal Canadiens if we kept using him in that role.

For the record, I was a fan of the player before this interview. But this is just bullshit. Between Domi and Danault, the attitude of those players is incredibly telling. Those guys are not winners. And we should not bother keeping on with them.

I'm not his biggest fan, but I never expected such comments from him. What a selfish prick. Even Domi, who is more talented offensively and played on the 4th line to start the playoff did not complain or threaten the team...

 

[FLHabs]

There's taking care and then there's taking care. He's looking for the best care possible.

When you're a multi-millionare the difference of care between making 5mil per year, and 7mil per year is pretty much all luxuries imo, but I'm not a millionare so I guess I don't know what I'm talking about lol

 

[JoelWarlord]

Don't want any part of a true 1C price tag on Danault long term. To me the Pageau deal is the comparable but that might not be something he's willing to take anymore given he wants to be paid as a top 6C and play that role. Idk I certainly don't think the Habs should do that and I think the Pageau deal is the upper limit of what I'd do but I still don't know how Bergevin could look him in the eye and say he deserves less money than Drouin when he's a monstrously better player.

It's a pretty tough negotiating position to tell the guy you've been gassing up as the underrated 1C on one of the best liens in hockey for 2 years that now he's just a rich man's Lars Eller and should be happy to be a defensive 3C. Even the Pageau deal is kinda hard to argue for when Pageau was always behind Turris/Duchene in Ottawa and then was traded to another team as the obvious platoon 2/3C with Nelson since Barzal is the clear unquestioned 1C while Danault has been gassed up as the 1C for the Habs for 3 years now.

Don't really know what Columbus has but they seem like an obvious fit of a team with a gaping hole at 2C behind Dubois and Torts would cream about Danault's game non-stop if he had him. Think it probably makes the most sense to make the trade now rather than go into this year and have him walk or get less as a rental. Maybe you get lucky and find a mid season sign and trade like Pageau but I wouldn't count on that with the flat cap.

 

[FLHabs]

His next contract will be the most important one he signs in his life. It's smart to be a little selfish at this point in his career.

That's very true, he has every right to be selfish, but he's gonna get that contract with another team. I thought he was a team player but I guess I was wrong.

 

[salbutera]

At the consequences of weakening your team? That's more selfishness imo, it's not like he's a 70 pts player. He says he wants to keep getting better offensively, but at his age, how much better can he get? At 27, you don't pay for potential, he should be in his prime right now.

Just as it’s the players god given right to ask for more, it’s the orgs god given right to get the best bang for the buck..no?

 

[waffledave]

Where does this guy think he'll go and play top line C? He is only doing that here because we had nobody better. He played big center minutes here for a while now and we were an awful team. We looked the best we ever have in these recent playoffs with Suzuki and KK playing offensive center roles.

 

[NotProkofievian]

That's very true, he has every right to be selfish, but he's gonna get that contract with another team. I thought he was a team player but I guess I was wrong.

Odin willing

 

[M.C.G. 31]

That feel when your centre depth was so shit for so long that it made a 3C think he’s a 1C and now wants to be paid and play that role when the centre depth is far better now and that centre is still a 3C talent wise.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Danault is at his peak offensively at ES. The only way he gets to 70 pts is if he starts playing on the PP

We are not giving him more PP, because his skill set is not made for it.
He won't camp in front of the net and battle with defenders in order to get a deflection and score a goal, à la Gallagher.
He can't be the shooter, because his shot is pretty weak.
He can't keep control the puck and create space with his skills, because he has stone hands.
His passing is above average at best.
How do you expect such a player to produce in the power play ? We don't need another leech, we need someone useful for our struggling PP.

 

[azcanuck]

It's good a guy wants to be a top line player. I expect that from him. Reality though is a different apple. He's not in position to demand much. His agent will find out not a team in the league considers him first line material. Cold shower time.